Horus Heresy Angron Transfigured + Lotara Sarrin

[Carach]

8 hours ago, DemonGSides said:

Lotara is awesome.

That Angron is ugly as hell, and not in a good way.  If the Schtick of all the Ascended FW primarchs is going to be "Stupidly large wings" then i'm out. It made some sense with Fulgrim, I don't get the same feeling with Angron.

 

 

surely it makes more sense with Angron, because he has always had wings? 

 

Wasn't Fulgrim supposed to just be a giant snake-like creature. Wings are a new thing? 

 

 

[SkimaskMohawk]

3 hours ago, Marshal Rohr said:

Nvm that’s too mean

 

Let it rip bud, just go for it.

 

But remember that some people are a bit particular about the media they enjoy, simply being new content™ for the IP they enjoy doesn't make it worthy. I'd personally get nothing over bad models, rules, or story. And nothing's going to upset me more than the pump and dump they did with the bad rules of Horus heresy 2nd and legions Imperialis lol.  

 

 

Edited February 14 by SkimaskMohawk

[darkhorse0607]

Something to chew on for those mentioning the timing (which I agree probably would have been better at a reveal show)

 

Valrak has been stating there's a new edition coming this summer for sometime now. He doesn't know if it's a 2.5 or a 3.0, but it would follow the 3 year cycle GW likes to do so I personally believe it even if I can understand why some don't

 

That being said, the next reveal show is likely to be at Adepticon next month, they MIGHT have something for black library week, if they still plan on doing that but I doubt they'll do one in the next month if they're doing one at adepticon

 

For the last 3-4 years, all of the new edition trailers, HH, 40k, AoS etc, have been at adepticon, followed by the runup to the new edition. So it's likely that they ran out of time for announcements before all of that starts

 

Now why they did that while showing next to nothing at the reveal shows for the past couple of times I don't know

[Karhedron]

7 hours ago, Jukkiz said:

Lotara model though, could been way better mini with mix of imperial advisors, navy commander and lotara art. ALSO! Did lotara get butchers nails at somepoint or are their sculpting team just really weird with hair?

 

I think that is meant to be her hair. I am pretty sure she never had the Nails in the books. In fact, based on the description of the operation in Angron's Primarch novel, I don't think a regular human would survive the implantation procedure. It is pretty brutal, even for Astartes. 

[INKS]

This does make me excited to see the others in a middle deamon state. I still think they do all the wings very oddly but otherwise I am mostly a fan. I would like them more if they were not resin but what can you do.

[LSM]

1 hour ago, Carach said:

Wasn't Fulgrim supposed to just be a giant snake-like creature. Wings are a new thing? 

 

Fulgrim has always been a four-armed wing'd serpent.

 

[Cenobite Terminator]

I feel like this Primarch model will appeal to a very specific customer base and it won’t sale well.

[Chapter Master Valrak]

8 hours ago, Xenith said:

 

Gifs are fine, including the Malcolm one, as long as they're part of a constructive comment/post.  Pasting memes or submitting image only posts frequently isn't constructive. 

 

No worries, as I explained in the PM I thought it came across as fun/joke, didn't want to upset anyone, I will make sure to post constructive text with it from now :) 

Edited February 15 by Chapter Master Valrak

[DuskRaider]

3 hours ago, darkhorse0607 said:

Something to chew on for those mentioning the timing (which I agree probably would have been better at a reveal show)

 

Valrak has been stating there's a new edition coming this summer for sometime now. He doesn't know if it's a 2.5 or a 3.0, but it would follow the 3 year cycle GW likes to do so I personally believe it even if I can understand why some don't

 

That being said, the next reveal show is likely to be at Adepticon next month, they MIGHT have something for black library week, if they still plan on doing that but I doubt they'll do one in the next month if they're doing one at adepticon

 

For the last 3-4 years, all of the new edition trailers, HH, 40k, AoS etc, have been at adepticon, followed by the runup to the new edition. So it's likely that they ran out of time for announcements before all of that starts

 

Now why they did that while showing next to nothing at the reveal shows for the past couple of times I don't know

Cool, maybe they can revert back to v1.0 and call it v3.0 so it’s good again.

[brother_b]

Interesting reveal.
 

She doesn’t look that intimidating at all. Someone any random space marine could just mulch. But Im not familiar with her lore.

 

I don’t mind Angron. To each their own. 

[Wormwoods]

My decades-long streak of not liking a single Primarch model continues. I like Lotara's knee-maws.

[Lord_Ikka]

Not the biggest fan of Angron- wings are too big and potentially fragile for me to like (similar to Fulgrim's, I'm just too clumsy and would yeet them across the room accidentally) and his pose makes him look very squat. The head/face is whatever, not my favorite but I see what they were going for as an in-between of the earlier 30k Angron and 40k's uber-Bloodthirster-esque Angron.

 

I think the wings are the big thing for me. I understand wanting to have these Daemon-Primarchs exhibiting a massive footprint like they do in lore, but I just am not a fan due to the potential for damage due to resin fragility. Really hoping that Mortarion Transfigured will be more of a unnaturally tall, gaunt figure with his wings wrapped around himself.

 

Admiral Sarrin is alright. I don't think they needed to have her actually wielding a sword, as she was a dedicated shipmistress and not a melee fighter. A conversion with her just standing calmly would more suit her lore persona, the relatively composed master of void combat in the middle of the insanity of the World Eaters. 

Edited February 15 by Lord_Ikka

[Fire Golem]

Having slept on it I do like Angron. I think he’s a great midpoint between the mortal model and the 40k model, showing him as relatively recently transformed. The only thing that doesn’t work for that is why are his weapons more corrupted than the 40k model ones? But that’s whatever. I’m quite surprised he’s been so divisive but the 40k model is already great so I kinda get it. 
 

I was hoping Sarrin would grow on me but I like her less and less. The proportions look off, her legs are really thin for example, the generic shouting and holding a sword up isn’t a great pose anyway and really doesn’t fit the character. Feels like an Artel W model or something. Really disappointing. She didn’t need a model anyway but it could’ve at least been good if they were doing it. 

[Elzender]

After watching the video a couple of times, I feel the issues people have with the odd proportions are in part due to the angle of the static pictures. The video shows the frontal view of the model, which shows his pose better, leaning forward as he lets out a scream/roar. The static picture, on the other hand, is more of a side angle, exaggerating the width of his stance and making the torso look shorter as the forward angle is not clearly visible. I also feel the torso area is a bit too cluttered, I believe removing the Khorne bunny ears from the belly/belt WE symbol would help here.

 

The head and neck I feel suffer from a similar issue, it is a very dramatic pose that works best from a specific angle, but can look weird from others.

 

While not having read any HH novel featuring Lotara, just the knowledge from forums and other social media, I agree the pose doesn't seem to fit too well, it is a very  "generic screamy sergeant waving a sword" stance. Someone earlier in the thread showed the navy advisor with a more collected stance and that is also one of the first ideas that came to mind. If they wanted her barking orders to the bridge crew, I feel an extended arm with a pointing hand might have worked better than the sword.

[OttoVonAwesome]

12 hours ago, MARK0SIAN said:

Angron seems smaller than I was expecting. The Siege of Terra books make him out to be enormous. I’m sure there’s a scene where he’s throwing mortals in the air and swallowing them whole. He just doesn’t seem big enough to match the description in the books.

Thats actually more horrifying at his size. He'd have to choke them down like a snake.

[Vogon]

I like this version of Angron, as others have said it's more amped up Primarch than out and out bloodthirster/daemon. I like that his armour is still recognisable as his old armour with chaos embellishments and the wings, to me, look appropriately sized for the model. 

 

I love that Lotara is getting a model, one of my favourite characters in the series,  but I think it's a bit of a plane sculpt.

My first thought was also along the lines of "why? She never saw a battlefield" but having read the article where it says her rules will be particularly useful in a Zone Mortalis game, that sort of makes more sense.

I'm likely to pick up Lotara at some point possibly to use in RPG rather than 30K but I think it will be fun to paint up. 

 

Cheers 

 

Vogon 

 

 

 

[Karhedron]

I much prefer this head to the 40K. 40k Angron and Fulgrim both have rather poor faces IMHO. Angron is too bestial and Fulgrim looks rather goofy. Their 30K versions still have  remnants of corrupted humanity. 

[Xenith]

On 2/14/2025 at 8:12 PM, Lay said:

Interesting that daemon princes can become more monstrous over time. I never really thought about it but it does make sense. Even for an immortal daemon there's always more power to gain.

By late heresy, Angron had really been constrained to realspace, aside standing on his ship as it flew through the warp.  After his first true death by Sangy, his spirit would have been banished, and then had to coalesce in the warp, where he probably had more control over how he formed. 

 

Not loving that Lotara model. Why a sword, when her most famous scene is with a trusty plasma pistol? Doesn't look like how I'd have imagined, and very different to official art. 

Edited February 16 by Xenith

[siegfriedfr]

Little photoshop, 40k Angron Body with 30k Angron Face.

[Lord_Ikka]

3 hours ago, Fire Golem said:

The only thing that doesn’t work for that is why are his weapons more corrupted than the 40k model ones?

They are more classically "Chaos-y" in terms of random spikiness, but the 30k ones are also somewhat more delicate than the 40k weapons- the sword for 30k is similar to a saber compared to the 40k one being basically a giant clever, while the axe has a slimmer head/profile than the 40k chainaxe. 30k seems to be more precision, or maybe the 10k years in the warp made Angron even more likely to shape his weapons into basic, brutal instruments.

[Redcomet]

Technically proficient sculpt. But it just doesn’t float my boat. Far too busy somehow, my eyes can’t focus. And I just don’t like the pose. It is boring. Prefer the 40k version

14 minutes ago, Lord_Ikka said:

They are more classically "Chaos-y" in terms of random spikiness, but the 30k ones are also somewhat more delicate than the 40k weapons- the sword for 30k is similar to a saber compared to the 40k one being basically a giant clever, while the axe has a slimmer head/profile than the 40k chainaxe. 30k seems to be more precision, or maybe the 10k years in the warp made Angron even more likely to shape his weapons into basic, brutal instruments.

It says so in his lore. He smashes people and things until a weapon breaks and the just uses a different one. They are just blunt instruments of his rage

[Joe]

19 hours ago, Hungry Nostraman Lizard said:

Love Egans' sculpt work. Can you elaborate on what else he mentioned on that Open Day? What did he mention at the time that's been released or previewed, what has come out, and what is still locked away in a cabinet file marked with an ostentatious "I"?

 

 

We're currently at 4/9 of the models he mentioned, as we're still waiting for the Khan (on Bike), Sanguinius (Vengeful Spirit), the Emperor of Mankind, Daemon Magnus and Daemon Mortarion. Given Egan is the only Primarch-sculptor at Forge World these days (keeping in mind Edgar's long gone) I imagine he's pretty busy chewing through everything else that's listed, on top of the whole "every Primarch will get a second model" thing.

Edited February 15 by Joe
Listed Fulgrim, not Mortarion.

[Redcomet]

Samguinius Vengelful Spirit can’t arrive fast enough. The current mini of him is appalling 

[Karhedron]

2 hours ago, siegfriedfr said:

Little photoshop, 40k Angron Body with 30k Angron Face.

 

I like it! Makes him look more like a fallen Primarch than a different flavour of Bloodthirster.,

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

14 hours ago, LSM said:

 

Fulgrim has always been a four-armed wing'd serpent.

 

He looks as if he has slithered out of a Harryhausen production.