Lupercals chosen Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 (edited) To me the knee pad looks a bit mk iii - the round bits on the knee support that plus the heel pad... but then how old would that make him? Would he have been able to go that long unnoticed by the powers that be in the hive? Dread to think what his body count might be over circa 10,000 years... Edited March 10 by Lupercals chosen Casual Heresy and grailkeeper 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6099221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 I mean he could just as easily have off'ed a IF at some point and swiped some mk3 along the way. Nothing says that is his O.G. armor: just that he has some astartes plate he jury rigged. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6099225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 24 minutes ago, Spagunk said: I mean he could just as easily have off'ed a IF at some point and swiped some mk3 along the way. Nothing says that is his O.G. armor: just that he has some astartes plate he jury rigged. his lore says "steel-sinewed muscle" which honestly seems more of a primaris reference, this guys isn't primaris though, 100%. Regardless, he's an astartes for sure based on the inputs for his power armour and his stats and other rules. He's also almost certainly of the blood angels line based on the vampirism aspect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6099241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 5 minutes ago, Blindhamster said: his lore says "steel-sinewed muscle" which honestly seems more of a primaris reference, this guys isn't primaris though, 100%. Regardless, he's an astartes for sure based on the inputs for his power armour and his stats and other rules. He's also almost certainly of the blood angels line based on the vampirism aspect. And the blood drop and IX on his scabbard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6099245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 This might actually be the coolest thing they've ever made. I'm sure he'll be insanely expensive and I also hate resin, but I'll make an exception. Trokair and Xin Ceithan 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6099258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Ex_Machina Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 7 hours ago, Casual Heresy said: Love the idea of a lost, blood mad Blood Angel running around the underhive, and the model looks pretty good. As others have stated, his boltgun and the faded iconography look a bit more legion-y than chapter-y. The armour looks a bit like field-repaired Astartes plate, but it looks lighter and nothing like a MkX variant. Could this be the first hint a how Recon Marines could look like in a new kit? He will give the scum of the Underhive the same greeting as this guy: "I come in peace!" Gamiel and Casual Heresy 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6099274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Ive wanted a dressed down astartes model for years. Might have to cave on my no resin policy for this guy Blindhamster and Urauloth 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6099426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 he is indeed an auto purchase for me too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6099441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGK Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 In the original White Dwarf article for confrontation( the precursor to necromunda) there wasa picture of a blood drinker blasting away at gangers, there is a chance he is a blood drinker marine, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6100142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Very, very cool Marine model. This is what I would want to see if we ever had proper Astartes renegades. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6100156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARMASTER_ Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 On 3/10/2025 at 7:41 PM, Lupercals chosen said: To me the knee pad looks a bit mk iii - the round bits on the knee support that plus the heel pad... but then how old would that make him? Would he have been able to go that long unnoticed by the powers that be in the hive? Dread to think what his body count might be over circa 10,000 years... MKIII is still in wide use in the 41st/42M there’s loads of chapters that use it for zone mortalis and boarding actions so he wouldn’t have to be from the legion to be wearing MKIII I agree with you though I think he’s a first born given the Bolter he’s carrying and the armour looking remarkably MKIII like 30 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: Very, very cool Marine model. This is what I would want to see if we ever had proper Astartes renegades. I’d love to see that set one day! Would make a great basis for Red Corsairs I’d love to see a dedicated Fallen set too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6100159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 as some others pointed out, his armour is actually much closer to the CLASSIC scouts (space crusade era) cloth on upper legs, armoured knee with round bit and strap on back, single shoulder pad, he even looks like he might have a similar style belt. Now I want a squad made like him... grailkeeper, Xenith, RolandTHTG and 7 others 6 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6100405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupercals chosen Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 On 3/16/2025 at 12:07 PM, WARMASTER_ said: MKIII is still in wide use in the 41st/42M there’s loads of chapters that use it for zone mortalis and boarding actions so he wouldn’t have to be from the legion to be wearing MKIII I agree with you though I think he’s a first born given the Bolter he’s carrying and the armour looking remarkably MKIII like I’d love to see that set one day! Would make a great basis for Red Corsairs I’d love to see a dedicated Fallen set too The only other thing that made me think first born, is the use of roman numerals for the legion number on his knife scabbard, which doesn't seem to be used as frequently I'm the 40k setting (I don't think?). But that could just be down to the artistic licence of the painter who painted him.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6100409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Ex_Machina Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 On 3/16/2025 at 11:32 AM, SGK said: In the original White Dwarf article for confrontation( the precursor to necromunda) there wasa picture of a blood drinker blasting away at gangers, there is a chance he is a blood drinker marine, This one? 1 yard firefights are just great: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6100410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Is he that big though? Is that 32mm base or 40mm? Some of those Goliath chaps are very chunky, so how will he compare to them? I love the model, I like to think the armour is not necessarily Astartes plate, but other stuff salvaged over the years to replace battle damage. This would be a great design direction for some 30k Blackshield models or maybe even some actual Fallen. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6100413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 2 hours ago, Lupercals chosen said: The only other thing that made me think first born, is the use of roman numerals for the legion number on his knife scabbard, which doesn't seem to be used as frequently I'm the 40k setting (I don't think?). But that could just be down to the artistic licence of the painter who painted him.... It was used in the pariah book hinting at the blood angel before we met him Lupercals chosen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6100425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 lost in this is he is an astartes that needs a comfy bed roll. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6100468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 5 hours ago, Wispy said: lost in this is he is an astartes that needs a comfy bed roll. Honestly one of my favourite things with a lot of the newer necromunda models is that they look like they are survivalists. A space marine is no different, whilst he could sleep on the floor, why should he. He has supplies and tools to keep him alive and its awesome. Ripper.McGuirl, Cyrox and Gamiel 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6100484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper.McGuirl Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 17 minutes ago, Blindhamster said: Honestly one of my favourite things with a lot of the newer necromunda models is that they look like they are survivalists. A space marine is no different, whilst he could sleep on the floor, why should he. He has supplies and tools to keep him alive and its awesome. Also, the Ash Wastes are super awful and even he will sometimes need to cover up or at least put up a tarp and get out of the acid rain or whatever. Marshal Mittens, Urauloth, Blindhamster and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6100486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARMASTER_ Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/17/2025 at 5:54 PM, Lupercals chosen said: The only other thing that made me think first born, is the use of roman numerals for the legion number on his knife scabbard, which doesn't seem to be used as frequently I'm the 40k setting (I don't think?). But that could just be down to the artistic licence of the painter who painted him.... It’s used all the time by first founding chapters the Blood Angels are the IX Chapter they kept their numeric designation but lost legion stasis is all It’s also supposed to be a wink wink nudge nudge by the painter so we know he’s a BA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6100590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Ex_Machina Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 10 hours ago, Ripper.McGuirl said: Also, the Ash Wastes are super awful and even he will sometimes need to cover up or at least put up a tarp and get out of the acid rain or whatever. Those are just horror stories to keep the juves tucked up in bed while the elderly have the time of their lives savouring the paradise outside the hive city. WARMASTER_, Loquille and Gamiel 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6100599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper.McGuirl Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 2 hours ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said: Those are just horror stories to keep the juves tucked up in bed while the elderly have the time of their lives savouring the paradise outside the hive city. Haha ok you go outside and check and report back to us! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385462-vandoth-the-fallen/page/2/#findComment-6100614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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