Blog Sume's Emperor's Children

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Glad  you were able to steal (from another model) a flight stand for your drake.

 

Games workshop sells the stand and base together for $ 14 Canadian (in Canada, obviously) - so that's an option.  From my very quick search of cake topping pillars, they are a range of prices, for various quantiles and sizes.

 

That said, if its for a nightscythe, I think a cooler approach would be to get some copper or plastic tubbing and paint it as the teleportation beam, with a warrior or the like stepping out of it on the base.  But I guess this is kind of getting off topic for this thread.

Edited April 29 by Dr_Ruminahui

[Sume]

21 hours ago, Dr_Ruminahui said:

Glad  you were able to steal (from another model) a flight stand for your drake.

 

Games workshop sells the stand and base together for $ 14 Canadian (in Canada, obviously) - so that's an option.  From my very quick search of cake topping pillars, they are a range of prices, for various quantiles and sizes.

 

That said, if its for a nightscythe, I think a cooler approach would be to get some copper or plastic tubbing and paint it as the teleportation beam, with a warrior or the like stepping out of it on the base.  But I guess this is kind of getting off topic for this thread.

I forgot GW sells them too.  I ended up gluing the plastic X into the round ball socket.  At least it should be stable now.  I am not a fan of these new flight stands for everything.  Especially with my Sisters of Battle stuff.  

 

I am finding this heldrake is painting up faster than the first one.  Now problem is I got done recovering the ulthan grey.  Then realized it looked plain without shading.  Going back with the durchi violet and so many panel line stuff for chaos lol.  That might take the rest of the night before bed.  It looks better with the purple shading next to the gold now too though. At least on the parts I got done so far.

 

[Sume]

Well, don't mind the mess of the base right now. You can see that I found the clear X piece.  Hopefully the new phone takes better pictures.  I want to do more to the drake, but it needs to be "done" for now. I'll finish the base over the next few days.  The duration violet helped break up the chaos panels from looking so bland.  I am using gamers grass "alien infestation" basing bits for my tormentors and other bases.  Not sure what I wanted from them really.  Saw tentacles and I was thats perfect. I slapped on some random contrast paints I have around.  Decided to try out the pro acrylic neon purple for the tentacles.  A lot of things like that I am just going to experiment with the neon paints my friend was like I want to see how it looks for tyranids.  Figured he can get a good look with things that I consider will not look out of place like these basing bits.

 

Edited May 1 by Sume

[Dr_Ruminahui]

That really looks nice - I like the flapping wings pose.

 

BTW, what do you use for your gold?  I'm still searching for a gold that I like, and that might fit the bill.

[Sume]

16 minutes ago, Dr_Ruminahui said:

That really looks nice - I like the flapping wings pose.

 

BTW, what do you use for your gold?  I'm still searching for a gold that I like, and that might fit the bill.

I am using the GW Retributor armor for the base, then a layer of auric armor gold, then I dry brushed the pro acrylic silver over it.  I did shade it with the new purple shade from GW called targor rageshade.  Once I figure out a drip bottle paint thats the equivalent to those I am going to switch them out.  As I hate the GW paint bottles.  That gold does hold well up against white is why I went with it over other ones I have.  I did overlap some of it with the durchai violet as I was trying to get shading done.  Which I was all right with. As I am using purple as a shader overall for things.

Edited May 1 by Sume

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

That is amazing look Heldrake. A good paint job can really change how a model looks. How did you get such good shading?

[Sume]

4 hours ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

That is amazing look Heldrake. A good paint job can really change how a model looks. How did you get such good shading?

Thank you so much.  I tried to be as careful as I could with a size 1 brush to add druchi violet the purple wash from GW along all the gold edges.  I then tried to clean up any over spills I didnt want with the ulthan grey.  The drake was looking rather plain without it.  I would have normally done so with a black wash or a blue for this sort of white.  Expect I decided early on that I would do with purple.

The base is nearly finished. With the weathering warming up the mordant earth stuff is cracking pretty good.  I found out I was applying it too thickly on some of the noise marines.  Oh, well I'll cover that up with some of the blue tufts and printed flowers.  I'll get a shot of it all after work.  I also feel that a good base can help a model out a lot.  I am really liking the pink glowing cracked look.

[Sume]

As I finish up this dinobot.  I wanted to share what I meant by the white and the chaos being looking really blandly without some sort of shading.

[Sume]

A quick update and more pictures too boot.  Trying out a new phone I got from my friend when he got a new phone.  Mine was near end of life anyways.  Well with a time crunch I am switching to painting some more space marines for him.  Which includes 6 terminators, a stormtalon interceptor I think its called and an old ancient dreadnaught.

Then for myself.  I got to finish the terminators, the rest of the noise marines, going to switch to a third squad of demonettes.  (Going to kit bash these with wytch elves), both party buses and the party taxi.  At least the three vehicles have been airbrushed with the ulthan grey so shouldnt be to fast.  

Life really kicked me around last few weeks.  Like being sick myself and my poor kitty got sick too.  That was so stressful.  At least the kitty is on her road to recovery and I am feeling better too.

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Sorry to hear about your being sick and even more so about your poor kitty being sick as well - but glad to hear you are both on the mend.  Between yourself, @Tallarn Commander and myself, the cat lovers are well represented here at chaos,

 

Your army is really coming along - they look sooooo sweet together.

[Sume]

4 minutes ago, Dr_Ruminahui said:

Sorry to hear about your being sick and even more so about your poor kitty being sick as well - but glad to hear you are both on the mend.  Between yourself, @Tallarn Commander and myself, the cat lovers are well represented here at chaos,

 

Your army is really coming along - they look sooooo sweet together.

Thank you.  Ya, life does throw us curveballs for sure.  I am learning the ins and outs of the new phone and camera and all that.  I think in better lighting you can see the pink undernearth the black crackle better.  Those blue/white tufts look great with the whole thing too.  Terminators just need the final blue white highlights and then finish the basing work.  I am going to be having a long weekend to make sure everything gets done.  At least my friends space marines is an easy scheme to do.  I dry brush different silvers and there like 90% good to go.  Along with now having a better grasp of the airbrush the stormtalon ship will be done faster too.

[Sume]

Thought I share the terminators. Going to add the mordant earth after I get some sleep and hopefully before work so it can do its crackling magic.

 

I really like how my warp claws turned out. The sorcerer I feel meh about.  If there's time, I'll do more with him. 

 

Took a break from infantry and grabbed the party taxi.  As you can see the airbrush did a majority of the work for me. I haven't painted a land raider in 20 years.  So, sort of slap chopping it as I go. Will transfer the same ideas to the two party busses.

 

Great news after 3 days of antibiotics.  Seven more days to go with it.  My little calico is back to her normal sweet bossy self.

 

Realize taking miniature pictures is definitely an art form.

Edited May 14 by Sume

[Sume]

Sadly didn't make as much progress on the battle taxi.  At least I just need to clean up around the gold and finish the purple shade. Then any clean up with that. Then some blue white highlights.  Hopefully it looks chaos enough and all ready looks better than my original inquisition land raider lost to summer heat from 20 years ago.

 

Sadly took longer than expected as I cut myself good on my left thumb with a new xactco knife. Guess the project is never complete without a blood sacrifice.  I am good. The cut is shallow but you never know how much you need your thumbs tell you cut one.

Edited May 16 by Sume

[Slaanbull]

In between the maulerfiend post and the terminators I am really starting to like the colour scheme! It’s a nice canvas to splatter with the paint of the battlefield as well. Would love more group shots down the line.

[Sume]

Exciting finds at the second miniature store. A second box of witch elves. Which I will convert later. A second "peacock" keeper of secrets. 

 

Me and my friend was there to pick up some emergency supplies for his space marines as I boxed up and misplaced the basing materials for them. Chances are it's all with the boxed up necrons and nids.

 

Need to get a picture of the finished party taxi. Onto the party busses. Then to finish the noise marines and a box of witch elves I some what converted.  More like mixed the daggers and whips. Added some sister of slaughter heads. A few demonette heads and claws. 

Edited May 18 by Sume

[Sume]

I need to remember to get some pictures at the last day of the narrative event.  It has been a learning curve for sure.  Everyone has loved my white Emperor's Children color scheme too.

[Sume]

I remembered to take some photos of the army at Dallas, Texas here. It turned out to be a 1k based point list with a pool you can select with reinforcements as the armies was divided into waves of reinforcements.

 

I didn't get a chance to finish the noise marines bases.

 

Overall I was not found of the hell drake.  It's good when it's good but it was more of a liability.  I think with this experience I have a better idea of what I want to take and use. 

 

Terminators I feel did there job of tanking but with only 5 models.  They just can't really do that role. Will probably keep them for now as it's one less unit to paint.

 

I like carnival of excess but I can see it being the weakest one as trying to empower units when you don't have full access to your army is rough.

Edited May 26 by Sume

[Sume]

My list ended up being really weird. 

 

2 noise marines 

1 sorcerer 

3 demonettes 

1 heldrake 

1 terminator

 

The wave system was annoying.  I ended up deploying the noise marines and hiding the demonettes.  Then used a wave of roughly 200 points for the terminators and a wave for the drake.  I didn't take full advantage of my cp as I was having to use them to actually deep strike my demonettes. 

 

I made a new list with waves in mind for Tacoma.  Assuming it's still waves. I am going to try and get a LK or redo a conversion. As I feel that they're mandatory to go with our noise marines and rhinos to actually protect them. Despite t5. They're squishy and die to easy.

 

Anyway new list to try is:

 

1 El

1 sorcerer (replace asap)

10 infractions

2 demonettes 

3 rhinos

2 noise marines 

 

I tell ya building for 1k is tough, especially if your army is coming in peacemeal. As the initial force could be dead all ready time the first round of reinforcements arrive. 

 

 

Edited May 26 by Sume

[Sume]

I am not really ready to give up on the Carnavil of Excess.  At 1k it's hard to build for. I came up with this. Honestly don't know what I feel about it.  I suppose having a few extra set of eyes looking at it might help.  Keep in mind this will be used for the Tacoma narrative. So, I expect waves again and crusade rules.

 

Winged demon prince with warpwalker

El with spear 

10 Infractors 

1 Tormentors 

2 demonettes 

2 fiends

1 Rhino

 

I feel the lack of noise marines hurts. As I think they keep opponents honest.  Problem is finding a balance I like. Feel free to pick this idea apart. I also have a Rhino detachment that I think could work too. Really don't want to give up on this yet.  Wonder if the terminators could work. I mean switching things around might get the terminators back and noise marines.  I feel that the fiends will be good to try this go around. 

Edited May 28 by Sume

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Yeah, 1000 points is rough for an army that relies on synergy to work, and where it unit does one narrow little thing and basically nothing else.  This is even more true if the mission rules are chopping your army up into even smaller pieces.  Indeed, even you plan to try out Carnival in the future, I think you would be better off going something else under these conditions, are a synergistic army will always suffer when chopped apart and denied those synergies, and it would be a shame for you to sour on the detachment just because you fielded it in a wierdly suboptimal situation.

 

BTW, in your previous post you mentioned having to pay CP to deepstrike your demonettes - were you being forces to rapid ingress them, or were you simply doing that to get in an extra round of scoring with them?

 

I assume all squads other than the infractors are minimum sized?

 

I feel warpwalker isn't the best fit for the winged prince, as basically he gets most of its rule from his FLY keyword which means you are basically paying 30 points for auto 6s when advancing.  Either of the other options is probably better - the Blade is really potent, and the Suffusion combos really well with demonettes, as their fights first allows them to attack before the opponent's chargers.

 

Your army as it is now is basically all assault with a fair bit of objective grabbing between the tormentors and the 2 units of demonettes.  I think that, except on a terrain heavy board, that's going to be really difficult to play.  If you want to bring in noise marines, I can see a couple of ways of doing it.  One way is to ditch the infractors and one of your demon squads.  Another is to ditch the demon prince - between him and his wargear, that's enough for a unit of noise marines and a kakaphonist with change left over.  Personally, I think 210 points is too much to tie up in one model in 1000 points, so I would be inclined to ditch the prince - that said, I will admit to being rather "character adverse" and may not use them as much as I probably should.

Edited May 28 by Dr_Ruminahui

[Sume]

Yes, the remaining squads are base sized. I am not really ready to give up on caranvil but it really needs to be able to synergize to be empower the units. The demon prince was added as I was like what do I have and that's all ready painted. 

 

The reinforcements was something that really messed up most armies..I was using the 2 cp stratagem to redeploy the demonettes that I hid on turn 1. So, I could get them to actually deep strike with the terminators when I wanted them. 

 

 

The Rhino list has two versions I am not sure about.  It really changes 230 points in each. I'll put the main part down and then list the part I am uncertain about.  Some of it comes down to finding a fourth 30k Rhino and the sorcerer is cause I have it.

 

Rhino detachment 

 

1 lk with spear.  Anti bad touch (no overwatch)

10 Infractors 

2 noise marines 

3 rhinos

 

Now the two set ups

2 Tormentors 

1 sorcerer or kl

 

1 noise marines 

1 Rhino 

 

 

 

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Makes sense to play what you have painted, but not having an eye into your collection, my suggestions were rather divorced from what models you might actually have.

 

I think both those setups are pretty solid, though personally I prefer the first with the tormentors for the objective grabbing.  If you do that route, definitely go Kakaphony over Sorceror.

 

If you go the second, I'm not sure you need the 4th rhino, as I'm inclined to double up 2 squads of noise marines in one of them, and then use the rhino points for a tormentor squad (if you find a few extra) or a Lord Kakaphony for one of the noise marine squads.  Another option would be spawn, but the rhino might actually be better than those (except for the spawn's ability to move through ruins more easily), especially in that detachment.

Edited Friday at 12:09 AM by Dr_Ruminahui

[Sume]

Problem is I have no spawn and I am not happy with the conversions I have tried with the KL.  The 4th rhino is can I actually secure one in a reasonable time.  As demon units go.  You can guess I have several of everything.  All expect just 2 units of fiends.  As I have a third box but it has been lost to the gripes of being placed in storage and lost currently.  

For unpainted EC stuff its 1 rhino, 2 EL, 6 noise marines, 20 tormentors and 20 infractors.  

Edited Thursday at 11:46 PM by Sume

[Dr_Ruminahui]

I'm thinking of buying AoS Slaangor Fiendbloods and basing them on 50mm bases for my spawn, though as they are currently online only and out of stock here, they may not be readily available and more of a long term plan.  Until then, I have 2 of the actual models, which I'll field, but begrudgingly.  That said, rhinos are great and are probably better except in melee and in traversing ruins.

 

For me, another rhino (beyond the one in my paint queue) is a choke point, not in terms of sourcing it, but because I'll have to scratchbuild trim for it so that fits in with my others - which will be a pain (but worth it when I get the motivation to actually do it).  So no transport detachment for me for a while - if you do field that one, please let us know how it goes.

Edited Friday at 12:09 AM by Dr_Ruminahui

[Sume]

Will do.  I been keeping an eye on slaangors.  Think everyone had the same idea. Spawn are just going to be a struggle to get currently for same reasons as the gors. Especially with all the chaos cultists books being released.

 

Finding a Rhino shouldn't be too difficult except I am using the 30k versions and HH is getting a new edition so may be hard to source too. Same with mauler fiends. Guess my friend has 2 lost to mail now. So, just the 1 for now.