Leaked Drukhari Model, Lady Malys?

[Commissar Greif]

Personally I'm not sure kabalites will be refreshed quite yet. They haven't aged quite as disgracefully as the old guardians had. Always a possibility though. I feel we're more likely to see a lot of the old resin stuff get replaced. Maybe a new plastic archon, too.

 

On 4/8/2025 at 10:21 PM, Chapter Master Valrak said:

Just a heads up, this may not be the only model released with DE this edition. 

Anyway back to my vacation 

Hope you're having fun, Valrak. Never could stomach the weather in Florida, myself.

[Tokugawa]

1 hour ago, Mogger351 said:

 

Hard disagree, fluff wise they do represent different branches of society yes. That's not really relevant to the point I was making though.

 

With regards strats etc I guess... maybe? But trueborn are missed because people ran an archon and 4 blasters in a venom. They're not missed for anything other than the fact they were a special weapons caddy you could zoom about at 20".

 

Scourges exist as a mobile/point insertion special weapons squad, so lack the transport element. So the only real difference is they were kabalites with more gun, but "marines have redundant choices and bloat so DE can too" is a weird argument.

Agree with you.

 

Assumptions like "marine have something, so my faction would have it too" is…funny. Wishing in this way would only meet dissapointment after dissappointment.

[DeadFingers]

1 hour ago, Commissar Greif said:

Personally I'm not sure kabalites will be refreshed quite yet. They haven't aged quite as disgracefully as the old guardians had.

See, I thought the same about some of the Tyranid kits, and even about the Chaos Terminators, and yet here we are. Still, it's definitely the safer bet to say that the finecast/missing models are higher on the priority list. Guess it depends on the size of the release as well, but they also like to throw some new toys alongside the model updates in releases like this, so who knows.

 

Wouldn't surprise me if Dark Eldar receive the Craftworlds treatment and get a couple waves spread over a couple editions though, so while Kabalites, Wyches, Scourges and all that may not be getting an update now, they may still get one a couple years down the line.

[Karhedron]

16 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

If they bring back trueborn and bloodbrides I don't want them to simply be wyches and kabalites with an extra attack, leadership and a few extra special weapons. They need more of an identity and a reason for existence than "special weapon unit" as that's already held by scourges.

 

Agreed. Marines lost "Veteran Intercessor" when they got proper Primaris veterans in the shape of Bladeguard and Sternguard (hopefully Vanguard will come soon too). Dark Eldar need something similar. Incubi are clearly different and have a defined role that cannot really be replicated by Battleline units.

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

We need a diorama depicting this:

 

Space Mongol Dark Eldar Waifu Harem.

 

No wonder those Primarchs are reluctant to visit 40K because they all have received invitations from the Khan.

[Ripper.McGuirl]

If Dire Avengers (elves with shuriken catapults) can be different from Guardians (elves with shuriken catapults), then Trueborn can be different from Kabalites.

They can also be different from Scourges. One of the things that separated them from scourges in the past was that they were a different Force Org slot, so that no longer applies.

But if scourges are theoretically for flitting around and laying down supporting fire, trueborn could be for zooming up, blasting, and stealing objectives. They could be worth a damn in close combat or give bonuses to kabalites near them as they try to keep up. They could cause some kind of fear to the enemy as they feel the seething waves of contempt coming off of them. They could have bonuses when an archon is attached to them or be extra good at killing lone operatives or the enemy general. They could deploy a webway portal or have a special thing they do when they eat a pain token. There’s a million ways to make them different.

Back to Malys: she is super cool in the lore and her kabal had fun rules in previous editions. The model looks great and will obviously also make a great archon base, as well. I feel like she’ll be a great addition to the range, and if we’re not going to see anything actually new to the army, at least getting something we havent had as a model is a good start. 
I would love some actually new models or characters we have never seen or had rules for, but I’ll settle for just  Malys and updated Urien, grotesques, court, beasts, plastic reaper and tantalus, upgrade sprues for bloodbrides and haemoxites, and maybe an updated archon. Plus models for the Baron, the Duke, and the Decapitator, and some version of Vect. That’s all I’m asking for in this wave, nothing much. 

(Sorry for the empty quote below, couldn’t figure out how to get rid of it on my phone)

On 4/8/2025 at 1:20 PM, TheMawr said:

 

Edited Thursday at 05:30 PM by Ripper.McGuirl

[ThePenitentOne]

18 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

 

Hard disagree, fluff wise they do represent different branches of society yes. That's not really relevant to the point I was making though.

 

With regards strats etc I guess... maybe? But trueborn are missed because people ran an archon and 4 blasters in a venom. They're not missed for anything other than the fact they were a special weapons caddy you could zoom about at 20".

 

Scourges exist as a mobile/point insertion special weapons squad, so lack the transport element. So the only real difference is they were kabalites with more gun, but "marines have redundant choices and bloat so DE can too" is a weird argument.

 

16 hours ago, Tokugawa said:

Agree with you.

 

Assumptions like "marine have something, so my faction would have it too" is…funny. Wishing in this way would only meet dissapointment after dissappointment.

 

I think both of you are reading a little too much into what I actually wrote. I don't mean to imply that every faction needs a range as big as marines.

 

What I meant to express is that in a game where one faction has 100+ kits, it seems a bit over the top to question every potential release for a neglected faction with a mere 22 kits. Certainly I agree with the premise that trueborn/ blood brides/ haemoxites SHOULD be meaningfully distinguishable from their battle line equivalents... I just have a problem with the suggestion that neglected factions don't deserve a few extra units unless they meet an arbitrary standard uniqueness in a game where another faction has 100+ kits and far and away, many more instances of redundancy. 

 

@Mogger351 The Trueborn have a great background that shines a light on elements of the larger Drukhari society; the Blood Brides all have the title of Hekatrix, and fluffwise, each capable of serving as a squad leader, while the Haemoxites are among their Master's most durable and enduring creations. And sure, all of those things are fluff distinctions, and you're writing specifically from a rules perspective... But just because the rules told us to field 4 Blasters with an Archon in a Venom, that doesn't mean that those players didn't see them as the uncloned, badass ancients that they were. 

 

As a Crusader, I had to EARN my favoured units- first, my character would have to earn the title of a Lord of Commorragh- a requisition that can only be purchased when the Character hits Battle Hardened, Heroic or Legendary. Once they've earned that title, they may upgrade one new battle line unit to favoured status. But the narrative for Scourges was different- one of our campaign rules was that Ascendant Lords had to first capture one of the territories associated with a Mercenary type- Incubi Shrines, Scourge Spires, and Shado Districts- before they could recruit Mercenaries of that type.

 

You may never have played a Drukhari Crusader in 9th ed. But for us, the differences between Trueborn and Scourges matter in a lot of really subtle ways, some based on fluff and others with rules interactions. And for what it's worth, I really liked what they did with all the favoured units in 9th. They didn't change load out at all; Kabalytes got really shooty, wyches really fighty and wracks really tough. My Kabal were poisoners, so my Trueborn took their battle honours as poison weapon upgrades; having that 2+ BS and ability to ignore hit modifiers was a nice multiplier given the poison specialization. It allowed for another good bit of narrative too; as a campaign rule, Ascendant Lords had to capture a Toxin Distillery before any of their units could choose from that category of battle honours.

 

 

[CL_Mission]

Well it seems like GW aren't following this up with a reveal of their own as they've done in the past. A shame but it's up to them I guess, I wonder what their M.O. is for deciding on when to respond to a leak and when not to, perhaps the Dark Eldar book is just too out and it's simply too early for them to show anything off. I feel like there have been other cases where GW hasn't responded to a leak but I can't remember any details.

[TheMawr]

51 minutes ago, CL_Mission said:

Well it seems like GW aren't following this up with a reveal of their own as they've done in the past. A shame but it's up to them I guess, I wonder what their M.O. is for deciding on when to respond to a leak and when not to, perhaps the Dark Eldar book is just too out and it's simply too early for them to show anything off. I feel like there have been other cases where GW hasn't responded to a leak but I can't remember any details.

 

Right now i can only remember them not adressing leaks that  had to do with startersets ( mortarion, first primaris mini shown, the HH box contents, the new landspeeder picture.. I think biker Where first seen there too, and the sprue of the new bretonnia pegasus. ) though that link is  coincidence based on how early those can leak, because it goes though many more hands much earlier than other releases... the link between those not shown is likely how far away the release is.

 

There is time still however, not all leaks Where adressed immediately, the deathguard character took 2 weeks i think?

[TheMawr]

Oh i remember others now,  there is an AoS commemorative miniature still not adressed i think.

People are even buying it already from official stores but it has never been officially revealed 

[Lord Marshal]

1 hour ago, CL_Mission said:

Well it seems like GW aren't following this up with a reveal of their own as they've done in the past. A shame but it's up to them I guess, I wonder what their M.O. is for deciding on when to respond to a leak and when not to, perhaps the Dark Eldar book is just too out and it's simply too early for them to show anything off. I feel like there have been other cases where GW hasn't responded to a leak but I can't remember any details.

 

I'm guessing it'll be the May show we see her now. The Lord of Poxes they held off showing until LVO, despite having been around (and built) for a short while prior and presumably having originally been meant to appear at Adepticon with the codex reveal.

 

Iirc there's been a few recent AOS leaks (the mounted Vampire Lord comes to mind) where they've not immediately shown them off now too, so it seems their new MO is just to wait until the next coming preview show or 'New Model Monday' and pretend all was planned instead of assuming everybody scours unofficial social media and sees the leakz.

 

Now I've said this they'll probably show her off this Monday though.

 

Edited Saturday at 12:01 PM by Lord Marshal