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14 minutes ago, marspeople said:

There is clearly a reason to me Dark Eldar have been left off all the schedules.

GW know the army needs a ground up refresh just like Craftworlds did and they are they are saving it for the big edition ender.

Dark Eldar as an army barely exist at the moment, so much has been discontinued due to resin or is just really old and needs and update.

Every single sign point to me that they are getting at least part of a big refresh. Nothing else makes sense.

Releasing one new character does nothing to sell the army thats on life support.

I would set expectations to the bare minimum here. GW have been known to set trends and then break them just as fast (they're consistently inconsistent). So go in expecting two model kits, if you get more, splendid, if not, then no worry.

14 hours ago, Jscarlos18 said:

Valrak has said in today's stream that DE will get a multipart Archon. Apparently Lady Malys is from a planned 6th Arks of Omen book that was scrapped that would also bring Asurmen too, before the big Aspect release wave that came now in 10th.

 

So "technically" this edition Drukhari were only supposed to get 1 kit.

It will be really nice to have a proper Archon kit, I hope there's a set of arms with big gloves like the Archon from 5th edition, I thought they added a lot of character. Very surprised we're not getting a plastic Urien that was almost a dead cert in my mind (presuming this turns out to be true of course).

 

1 hour ago, ZeroWolf said:

I would set expectations to the bare minimum here. GW have been known to set trends and then break them just as fast (they're consistently inconsistent). So go in expecting two model kits, if you get more, splendid, if not, then no worry.

 

This should be the case with every speculation, but shouldnt be used to put down speculation. Especially as a lot of traffic in this subforum is exactly that; speculation based on perceived patterns. Even grounded talk about rules is, more often than not, exactly that.

 

While what you say is true, as pointed out extensively.. the possibilities for Dark eldar getting a bigger release is not at all unrealistic. Wether it happens is another story.

But right now there is enough grounds to speculate, wich you should have the dark eldar fans have for a moment  ;)

 

 

I cant quote from another page, but Regarding possible canceled Arks of Omen.. first of all, me and others have been randomly speculating about it ( moreso on other media ) and suddenly i saw the same speculation called a rumor a week ago, did valrak say its from a trustable source because it seems as one of those situations Where speculation evolved into rumors as it gets repeated etc. ( probably because it got mixed with the canceled 2022/2023AoS campaign book rumor .. the one that would feature the 800+ days old rumor engine ;) )

 

But even if there was a planned 6th book i think it would have been canceled long before even writing started, there are no missing plots nor rules for boarding patrol. But still as i mentioned here last week, Malys is a more likely AoO style candidate than a solo release candidate, and there was a focus on her around AoO ( even if that focus was in kill team.. wich could have been a plot tie-in remnant)   

 

And yes, books follow miniatures not the other way around usually ( BL miniatures are an obvious exception already )  but i think they have some key miniatures that are designed for the campaigns. And a narrative is build around those with other available named character miniatures thrown in.

I suspect most existing named characters have been done for a much longer while than we think.

 

I think/know gathering storm key characters were at least Guilleman, Cawl and the Ynnari at least ( the latter from jg interviews) .. I suspect psychic awakening had none, just built around what they where updating, and AoO was Vashtorr, the Lion, Angron ..

If they where indeed part of it I dont think asurmen was but malys might have been.. like i said back then i also suspect lord solar was.

I think its more so that there is not a missing AoO book of current AoO, but AoO is (slightly) changed from what it was, wich i think happens often anyway.

1 hour ago, CL_Mission said:

It will be really nice to have a proper Archon kit, I hope there's a set of arms with big gloves like the Archon from 5th edition, I thought they added a lot of character. Very surprised we're not getting a plastic Urien that was almost a dead cert in my mind (presuming this turns out to be true of course).

 

 

You mean the one with skin over the helmet ? Thats 4th edition. The current dark eldar range are the 5th edition range ;) ( but the archon got its plastic kit in 6th or 7th together with wracks, succubus and haemoculus )

 

Its almost a must to have both that powerclaw and the skin helmet as options... its iconic 

 

I want to see more of the dark "hellraiser" geometric "tech" the finecast archon and haemonculus had. 

In general i want to see that in more dark eldar, the same way alot of newer kits have random unit members checking arm mounted panels or throwing grenades etc i like how it makes the models even  more "living" and less "game tokens"

34 minutes ago, TheMawr said:

 

You mean the one with skin over the helmet ? Thats 4th edition. The current dark eldar range are the 5th edition range ;) ( but the archon got its plastic kit in 6th or 7th together with wracks, succubus and haemoculus )

 

Its almost a must to have both that powerclaw and the skin helmet as options... its iconic 

 

I want to see more of the dark "hellraiser" geometric "tech" the finecast archon and haemonculus had. 

In general i want to see that in more dark eldar, the same way alot of newer kits have random unit members checking arm mounted panels or throwing grenades etc i like how it makes the models even  more "living" and less "game tokens"

This guy. He came out with the 5th edition codex in metal and later got the Finecast treatment before being replaced with the plastic one which I think a lot of people believe was a downgrade in terms of design, including myself.

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1 hour ago, CL_Mission said:

This guy. He came out with the 5th edition codex in metal and later got the Finecast treatment before being replaced with the plastic one which I think a lot of people believe was a downgrade in terms of design, including myself.

arh.jpg


Love this guy.

I always read the thick gloves as being protection for handling the Huskblade (since the lore builds up how dangerous it is).

but then the next model both didn’t have the gloves and held the huskblade as close to his bare head as possible, so maybe I was wrong.

 

1 hour ago, TheMawr said:

Its almost a must to have both that powerclaw and the skin helmet as options... its iconic 


I get wheeere you’re coming from. It’s such a fun, horror-themed, idea. Perfect for the mix of horror and campy gofiness that make up a lot of the grounds for 40k (especially in that 3/4ed Dark Eldar codex <3 )

But it is such a strange design choice.

I play the faction because I like the look of their armor/helmets And then to not only hide one of the primary signifiers of the army’s aesthetic on the main/iconic HQ-model, but to also have it covered with the face of an army you -do not- play (supposedly! It could be a drukhari face, I suppose) is just… so goofy.

 

 

On topic:

New plastic, multi options Archon would be sooo amazing. I’m really looking forward to that ^^ Hope it’s like the new CSM Lord in quality/style. That model is just great.

 

Still, I find it hard to believe that would be the only model we get (aside from Malys) with the codex. And would be really dissapointed if that were to be true. (Regardless of how high or low my expectations are set ;P ^^ )

Edited by ursvamp

Another thing to keep in mind is that lately GW has been doing one-offs in one edition before giving big refreshes later for the edition that comes next. Usually with Kill Team they also expand some units into a slew of new/refreshed miniatures like Kroots or Krieg.

 

So its possible they give DE a token unit for 10th and a big wave for 11th.

A multipart plastic archon with as many options as some other armies have would be heartstoppingly amazing. It has never made sense to me that an army made of the most nefarious and evil creatures in the galaxy, capable of doing and using literally anything that the universe has to offer to get what they want, only have like one sword and two pistols to choose from.

6 hours ago, Jscarlos18 said:

Valrak just uploaded a video talking about this along with other things:

 

 

Is it possible to give an objective overview ? Im without proper internet access for a while :\ i tried looking around but there are as many interpetrations of what has been said as there are people saying it :laugh:

 

From what i gather its not so much that valrak has the rumor that Its lady malys and an archon, but rather that ( apart from this leak ) he has no rumors about lady malys, only about the multipart archon and the AoO bit is speculation ( as it has been since people noticed her and asurmen 2023 tag) is that correct ?   

9 hours ago, Ripper.McGuirl said:

A multipart plastic archon with as many options as some other armies have would be heartstoppingly amazing. It has never made sense to me that an army made of the most nefarious and evil creatures in the galaxy, capable of doing and using literally anything that the universe has to offer to get what they want, only have like one sword and two pistols to choose from.

Multi parts Autarch even have "male/female chest armor" options in addtion to various weapons. Other recent human sized HQ multi parts kits(Kahl, Cadian commander, Canoness) also have okay volume of options. If multi parts Archon kit exists, it won't be too bad. 

8 hours ago, TheMawr said:

From what i gather its not so much that valrak has the rumor that Its lady malys and an archon, but rather that ( apart from this leak ) he has no rumors about lady malys, only about the multipart archon and the AoO bit is speculation ( as it has been since people noticed her and asurmen 2023 tag) is that correct ?   


Yes.

he says the onky rumor he’d heard was of the multi-part Archon kit (and that that was going to be the single model release for Drukhari. But it’s a little unclear to me if that last part is part of what he was told, or speculation on his part due to not hearing about anything else).

 The Malys model leaking has him specilsting that maybe there is more coming for Drukhari after all, since he had heard nothing about it.

Goes on to say that Drukhari needs it, and would benefit from a big release. As well as mentionibg that the last codex for an edition usually gets some love, model-wise (but it’s all speculation, on his part).

 

Arks of Omen is not mentioned at all.

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