Urauloth Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Oh man, those Wolf Guard. Incredible. Njall is also a long-time favourite character of mine, and I always liked his old design, so I wasn't sure how I was going to feel about his new incarnation. It's phenomenal though, I can't wait to get him. Wispy, ZeroWolf, Frogian and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6107376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 10 hours ago, roryokane said: The only complaint I have is that Njal has ended up having an armour downgrade. Both Logan and Arjac are excellent models. Not quite sure of the pain scheme though - they look a bit... dark? He had PA originally so I guess he is returning to his origins. We have both Logan and Arjac in TDA so I don't mind having another character who can join PA squads. A lot of it will depend on what abilities he has. Actually Runic Armour is really nice and would have been great with 4W WG TDA. Dark Shepherd, Cenobite Terminator and Borbarad 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6107403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 Would "wolf lord" keep an independent datasheet in new SW rules? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6107404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 13 hours ago, Joe said: Grimnar's wolves are Tyrnak and Fenrir, the same Thunderwolves that previously drew that god awful sled. Yeah it was a joke. I didn't really think they were over 10K years old. The intention was to point out the similarity in theme to Leman Russ alongside a bit of humour. Cenobite Terminator 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6107410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, Tokugawa said: Would "wolf lord" keep an independent datasheet in new SW rules? I am guessing not since we have not seen a kit for a generic Wolf Lord. I suspect it will just be an addition keyword for Captain (and Ragnar). I suspect we will get a sheet for Wolf Guard Battle Leader since we are getting a new kit that includes options not available to standard Lieutenant. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6107415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbarad Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, Karhedron said: He had PA originally so I guess he is returning to his origins. We have both Logan and Arjac in TDA so I don't mind having another character who can join PA squads. A lot of it will depend on what abilities he has. Actually Runic Armour is really nice and would have been great with 4W WG TDA. I wouldn’t mind if they had variations of the same character being able to use different armors. Calgar - in an older SM codex - could be fielded in power armor or terminator armor. roryokane 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6107416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, Captain Idaho said: Yeah it was a joke. I didn't really think they were over 10K years old. The intention was to point out the similarity in theme to Leman Russ alongside a bit of humour. Your observation does bring up the question about the old man Russ rumor. I wonder if the rumor got started by someone uninitiated in 40K who saw the Logan with the wolves concept and assumed it was old man Leman Russ. The 2 wolves are definitely a Leman Russ thing even if his pair are ghosts now. Captain Idaho, Casual Heresy and Aarik 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6107425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMawr Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 10 minutes ago, Wolf Guard Dan said: Your observation does bring up the question about the old man Russ rumor. I wonder if the rumor got started by someone uninitiated in 40K who saw the Logan with the wolves concept and assumed it was old man Leman Russ. The 2 wolves are definitely a Leman Russ thing even if his pair are ghosts now. Afaik there never was an actual Old man Leman russ rumor, only wishlists/theories/opinions. (same as the opposite wulfen/feral leman russ wishlists/theories/opinions ) There have been varying Leman russ rumors over the years ofcourse, including more reliable sources (at least then) but never with details beyond the name drop. Considering Logan grimnar could always be taken without a sled, it might be that the earlier design stage/plan for this model is much older than the usual, and he is linked to the leman russ rumors anyway, but I think its unlikely, not in the least because of the terminator armor. Wolf Guard Dan, DemonGSides and ZeroWolf 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6107428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalmyth Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 16 hours ago, DeadFingers said: So what you're saying is that since Dante and friends have rather plain bases in comparison, we should be expecting Sanguinius. Hide contents For legal reasons, mainly to avoid being burned at the stake, the above statement is a joke. Don't worry, I think we'll get Sanguinius. Just as a corpse for the base of the next Horus model Wolf Guard Dan, HolyPestilience and ZeroWolf 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6107433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 3 hours ago, TheMawr said: Afaik there never was an actual Old man Leman russ rumor, only wishlists/theories/opinions. (same as the opposite wulfen/feral leman russ wishlists/theories/opinions ) There have been varying Leman russ rumors over the years ofcourse, including more reliable sources (at least then) but never with details beyond the name drop. Thanks. I think I got my wires crossed between rumor and wish listing. 2 hours ago, Dalmyth said: Don't worry, I think we'll get Sanguinius. Just as a corpse for the base of the next Horus model Glad you saw humor in the rumor engine. I was fretting between that one and a tombstone hoping the joke would land. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6107466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Coolpants Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 He must be a tactical genius! That's the biggest tactical rock I've ever seen. Wolf Guard Dan and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6107862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittlePlasticHomies Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 I noticed the wolf guard termie sgt was shown with two different molded pauldrons. I wonder how many different companies are represented in the kit - although I’m sure there will be at least one blank pad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6115697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 hour ago, LittlePlasticHomies said: I noticed the wolf guard termie sgt was shown with two different molded pauldrons. I wonder how many different companies are represented in the kit - although I’m sure there will be at least one blank pad. The Blood Claws and Grey Hunters each have two molded pauldrons intended for the Squad leader: Logan's and Ragnar. You can go with a blank pad also. I imagine it's the same for the terminators. LittlePlasticHomies, Vardus and Karhedron 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6115708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupercals chosen Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 For anyone that missed out on the original army set, emodels still has copies available: https://www.emodels.co.uk/games-workshop-space-wolves-army-set-53-33.html Alby the Slayer and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6117244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TokenTank19 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 At least they dropped the mobility chariot for Logan Grimmar, that was a odd look for him Karhedron and SteveAntilles 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6117361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 (edited) Pre-orders next week. Edited June 22 by Lord Marshal Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6117841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alby the Slayer Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 So fast after the wolves box! Prob they are making "space" for HH 3.0. Nice! Rest in peace my wallet. Next week you will be sorely missed! Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6117844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapter master 454 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Happy for the space pups, but where are Imperial Knights is my concern...considering that HH is getting closer, when will they squeeze them in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6117866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 13 minutes ago, chapter master 454 said: Happy for the space pups, but where are Imperial Knights is my concern...considering that HH is getting closer, when will they squeeze them in. I think IKs are coming after HH3.0. They updated their index inline with the Chaos Knights codex. My guess is they would not do that unless IKs were still a few months away. ZeroWolf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6117869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Paint Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 I’m interested if we see any of the terminator sprues given the 5 bare heads that we’ve seen this means another 7, and I’m all for more bare heads! Wispy 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6117878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 3 hours ago, Brother Paint said: I’m interested if we see any of the terminator sprues given the 5 bare heads that we’ve seen this means another 7, and I’m all for more bare heads! the heads they've done so far have been among the best heads GW have ever sculpted and I'm excited to see what else they got. there's so much nuance and detail in the ones from the Blood Claw and Grey Hunter kits I'm painting right now. pointed incisors, eyebrows, elaborate hairdos, a wide variety of expressions and personality. Edited June 22 by Wispy Brother Paint and sbarnby71 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6117907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dienekes96 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Best heads in 40K. The AoS team is still the ballingest sculptors. That said, I think the AoS team did the SW heads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6117909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMawr Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 11 minutes ago, dienekes96 said: Best heads in 40K. The AoS team is still the ballingest sculptors. That said, I think the AoS team did the SW heads. There is no different AoS and 40k team when it comes to the miniatures. One of the concept artists for Deathguard ( specifically the daemon engines ) and CSM Daemon engines also did the first Warcry warbands and AoS Nurgle release, The sculptor ( or at least one of them ) who worked on the Spacemarine bladeguard also did the Lizardmen dinoriders and the winged Sylvaneth archers ( I constantly keep fingers crossed that when it comes to Exodites he's the go to guy, between elf, dinosaur and properly decorated fantasy-scifi these are 3 requirements for exodites and he did all 3 very well imho. ) and the recent vampirelord on vampire dragon is the same guy who did some of the recent tyranid sculpts.. I seem to remember at least deathleaper ) Most sculptors or artists I could eventually find out about worked on both 40k, AoS and their subgames. Its only the writing teams ( lore and rules ) that are different for each, likely the project managers and creative direction too. In short... yes, the AoS team did the SW heads ;) I think in this case at least some of the kits might be the Bladeguard sculptor I mentioned before. 6 hours ago, Alby the Slayer said: So fast after the wolves box! Prob they are making "space" for HH 3.0. Nice! Rest in peace my wallet. Next week you will be sorely missed! This one suprises me, not the first I heard. And I did the numbers then too.. but the Wolves release isnt faster than usual from the box. The average this year is 35 days ( wich is the amount it took for the spacewolves.) the average last year was about 39 days, not much longer. Its very interesting to me that it feels faster for many people ( it was the same with the complaints between the AoS vampires preview and release, wich wasnt unusually longer than usual but had a lot of complaints.. grey knights are soon waiting twice as long.) does time feel different for many people in winter than in spring/summer I wonder ? --- I like the coverart, now that we have officially seen it. I think its one of the strongest in this new flavor of cover art. ( even if there is still anatomic wonkiness ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6117913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorechilde Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 So are my Space Wolf Intercessors now pointless because of the Grey Hunters? Different weapons allowed and all? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6117922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 hours ago, Gorechilde said: So are my Space Wolf Intercessors now pointless because of the Grey Hunters? Different weapons allowed and all? 'cessors are marines on 32mm with guns, grey hunters are marines on 32mm with guns and chainswords. So feasibly, if you are no longer "permitted" to run your Intercessors at all, you could just source some third party chain weapons and glue them to your marines hips. Or maybe some second hand chain bayonets from heresy and glue those to the guns. Or just run them as grey hunters, as marine with bolter (32mm) is marine with bolter (32mm) is marine with bolter (32mm) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/385764-logan-grimnar-arjac-rockfist-njal-stormcaller-wolf-guard-terminators/page/4/#findComment-6117930 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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