Space Wolves Logan Grimnar + Arjac Rockfist + Njal Stormcaller + Wolf Guard Terminators

[Vardus]

1 hour ago, ZeroWolf said:

It would have been odd if it wasn't a supplement, as that would make them the only loyalist sm chapter to fully go independent (ala the God specific chaos legions).

 

But would have been fully fluffy and lore friendly!

 

Wolves will be Wolves! 

[TheMawr]

1 hour ago, ZeroWolf said:

It would have been odd if it wasn't a supplement, as that would make them the only loyalist sm chapter to fully go independent (ala the God specific chaos legions).

 

To be fair, if it was to be a long term plan to make them seperate codexes again ( wich is a big if ofcourse ).. they'd have to start somewhere. Much like the god specific chaos legions wich didnt all became seperate armies in a single edition. Starting that with space wolves in 10th, following up with dark angels in 11th for example wouldnt be entirely out-of-character for GW. it wouldnt have been that odd.

 

21 hours ago, crimsondave said:

If they continue riding around saddled up on wolves and flying wolf shaped aircraft I’ll concede the point to you.

Are they supposed to be wolf heads ? I always thought they where a scifi/spacemarine enterpretation of longships.. at least, thats what I have always seen in them. ( when I found out they where aircraft I was also suprised, first time I saw them I thought they where some kind of hover transport/tank.)

[Karhedron]

38 minutes ago, TheMawr said:

Starting that with space wolves in 10th, following up with dark angels in 11th for example wouldnt be entirely out-of-character for GW. it wouldnt have been that odd.

 

10th was a reboot compared to 9th while 11th is expected to be a refresh. If GW wanted to make the big Chapters stand-alone then the time to do it would have been the start of a major edition (10th, 12th etc). The fact that DAs and BAs have gone the supplement route implies they will be sticking with this approach until the end of 11th.

[ZeroWolf]

It's a moot point anyway as we have proof its a supplement, but I'm wary that GW will mess with Marines to that extent. It's a toss up if the Chaos legions were right to be standalones or if they would have been better served as supplements.

[Dalmyth]

Not quite sure if it's been stated yet, but I keep getting this feeling from Grimnar's base that its a centerpiece really similar to Guilliman's or the Lion's. Kinda makes me wonder/hope if they did it on purpose and don't have any plans to return Russ in 11th.

[Marshall Bretton]

One thing that isn't mentioned or pictured at all is whether any of these models come with helmet options which I'd be keen to know. Don't get me wrong, the head sculpts are generally great and look amazing, it's just always been a personal point of annoyance that genetically engineered super soldiers wearing the toughest armour known to man don't wear helmets so they can be dropped by a headshot from a lucky cultist with a pistol

[Blindhamster]

Space wolves actually often eschew helmets lore wise because they mess with their super senses 

[Jukkiz]

37 minutes ago, Blindhamster said:

Space wolves actually often eschew helmets lore wise because they mess with their super senses 

most of them don´t really like helmets since they get stuffy and  start smelling atrocious

[DemonGSides]

1 hour ago, Marshall Bretton said:

One thing that isn't mentioned or pictured at all is whether any of these models come with helmet options which I'd be keen to know. Don't get me wrong, the head sculpts are generally great and look amazing, it's just always been a personal point of annoyance that genetically engineered super soldiers wearing the toughest armour known to man don't wear helmets so they can be dropped by a headshot from a lucky cultist with a pistol

 

The sprue shown that was from the trash had a couple of helmeted heads, for Grey Hunters I believe?

Edited April 29 by DemonGSides

[ZeroWolf]

Also the rule of cool applies, not to mention that there's only a few weapons that helmets would stand against. Lascannons for instance, helmet does squiddly squat to stop that! Also necron gauss weapons i believe?

[DemonGSides]

I think helmets make more sense than not even with the SW predilections so I get the fraters concern considering it's been mostly unhelmeted everywhere. Same situation with BA; there's a lot of rule of cool modelling opportunity with our luscious locks and sharp teeth, but also it's a warzone and helmets are also pretty cool. 

[Karhedron]

4 hours ago, Dalmyth said:

Not quite sure if it's been stated yet, but I keep getting this feeling from Grimnar's base that its a centerpiece really similar to Guilliman's or the Lion's. Kinda makes me wonder/hope if they did it on purpose and don't have any plans to return Russ in 11th.

 

I was wondering the same thing. Then wondering if I was reading too much into it.

[Frogian]

 

4 hours ago, ZeroWolf said:

It's a moot point anyway as we have proof its a supplement, but I'm wary that GW will mess with Marines to that extent. It's a toss up if the Chaos legions were right to be standalones or if they would have been better served as supplements.

 

yeah possibly, though it would mean not pushing new edition boxes on SW players, so who knows. (personally i want an all SW only units army anyway as far as troops are concernd

 

4 hours ago, Dalmyth said:

Not quite sure if it's been stated yet, but I keep getting this feeling from Grimnar's base that its a centerpiece really similar to Guilliman's or the Lion's. Kinda makes me wonder/hope if they did it on purpose and don't have any plans to return Russ in 11th.

 

hmm, interesting point, but he does predate them both on his sled and this is a down-sizing for him. agree he looks like a big primarch-level centre piece though, but imagine pts/stats/abilities wise he'll be more at Dante/Azrael level.

[DemonGSides]

His size base was what I was hoping they were gonna do with the Sanguinor. Could've been REALLY cool. 

[307kg]

5 hours ago, Dalmyth said:

Not quite sure if it's been stated yet, but I keep getting this feeling from Grimnar's base that its a centerpiece really similar to Guilliman's or the Lion's. Kinda makes me wonder/hope if they did it on purpose and don't have any plans to return Russ in 11th.

His current firstborn model is much more intricate than what the other firstborn chapter master models were as well. I would think they are just keeping with that theme. 

[Wolf Guard Dan]

Logan is certainly a centerpiece model. I don’t know what that means for Russ. Probably/hopefully nothing. Design team may have wanted to incorporate the wolves and made it happen with the layers of terrain.  I’ve gotten over my hangup from yesterday on his model. I was comparing his model to his contemporary chapter masters and his design is so ahead of the others. He looks lifelike. Really pleased with what we are getting. Worth the wait. 

[DeadFingers]

5 hours ago, Dalmyth said:

Not quite sure if it's been stated yet, but I keep getting this feeling from Grimnar's base that its a centerpiece really similar to Guilliman's or the Lion's. Kinda makes me wonder/hope if they did it on purpose and don't have any plans to return Russ in 11th.

So what you're saying is that since Dante and friends have rather plain bases in comparison, we should be expecting Sanguinius.

 

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For legal reasons, mainly to avoid being burned at the stake, the above statement is a joke.

 

[Captain Idaho]

Liking the models, very nice new editions. Would like a few helmets for the Wolf Guard as options but appreciate the heroic representation.

 

Nice to see GW have finally understood that the original design of Marines didn't have to be completely redone particularly with N'jall Stormcaller.

 

My main question is - Grimnar has Freki and Geri on his base right so how old.are they now in dog years?

[Joe]

2 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said:

My main question is - Grimnar has Freki and Geri on his base right so how old.are they now in dog years?

 

Grimnar's wolves are Tyrnak and Fenrir, the same Thunderwolves that previously drew that god awful sled.

[darkhorse0607]

17 minutes ago, Joe said:

 

Grimnar's wolves are Tyrnak and Fenrir, the same Thunderwolves that previously drew that god awful sled.

 

That's why they look so tired

[Wolf Guard Dan]

23 minutes ago, DeadFingers said:

So what you're saying is that since Dante and friends have rather plain bases in comparison, we should be expecting Sanguinius.

 

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For legal reasons, mainly to avoid being burned at the stake, the above statement is a joke.

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/2xtLmpaO/the-rumour-engine-8th-august-2023/
Well I think you should expect Sanguinius. They’ve already done a rumor engine for him. 

[Moonstalker]

5 hours ago, Dalmyth said:

Not quite sure if it's been stated yet, but I keep getting this feeling from Grimnar's base that its a centerpiece really similar to Guilliman's or the Lion's. Kinda makes me wonder/hope if they did it on purpose and don't have any plans to return Russ in 11th.

 

I wouldn't worry about it.  GW likes money, and just because other marines only get one centerpiece model doesn't mean that's a rule applicable to all armies.  Eldar have the Avatar and the Yncarne.  Chaos boys can mix in Vash'tor or Bel'akor.

[ursvamp]

20 minutes ago, Joe said:

 

Grimnar's wolves are Tyrnak and Fenrir, the same Thunderwolves that previously drew that god awful sled.

Yeah… I don’t think Idaho was _literally_ saying they were named Geri and Freke, just calling out the reference ;)

[roryokane]

The only complaint I have is that Njal has ended up having an armour downgrade. Both Logan and Arjac are excellent models. Not quite sure of the pain scheme though - they look a bit... dark?

[SkimaskMohawk]

1 hour ago, roryokane said:

The only complaint I have is that Njal has ended up having an armour downgrade. Both Logan and Arjac are excellent models. Not quite sure of the pain scheme though - they look a bit... dark?

 

It's definitely darker than the 5th edition box art, and is a better compliment to the rest of the colours used as a result.

 

Still, that codex cover in the grey shows what couldve been.