New Edition, or Just Horus Hearsay?

[Naryn]

Well, there's the base for that leaker who said they saw a dreadnought so much like a Warjack that they were shocked it was allowed.

 

I don't hate anything we see here, new heavy weapons are always cool, and some tweaks to Saturnine Terminators could really make them shine.

 

I think the Dreadnought is a little too curvy and rhe head is slightly too small, if someone threw a sarcophagus on there I bet it'd look much better.

[01RTB01]

Amusingly the horus hearsay site has some comments about the leaks.

[DuskRaider]

Interesting to see GW finally recognize the Saturnine Pattern armor after literal decades of pretending it didn’t exist and having the fan base fill in the gaps. I’m not a fan of the design with the two plasma guns, but I do think there’s potential there. 
 

The Dreadnought is interesting, though I would have suspected a much more rudimentary armament if this is considered the first Mark of Dreadnought design. Kinda seems like they’re going bigger and better when it should be bigger and probably technologically inferior. 
 

The Saturnine Praetor looks horrible. Too much useless detail and crap slapped on. Seems to be their design philosophy for GW Heresy. 
 

I’m happy to see Mk. II get some recognition.  Besides Mk. III, this would have been the most common Armor Mark during the Heresy, with Mk. IV being much less common and Mk. VI being a blip on the map. 
 

What battle is this box supposed to represent? I can’t recall a time when Irons Warriors squared off against Salamanders save perhaps Isstvan V. Even then, I don’t think they saw much Legion vs Legion combat focused on the two, I seem to remember it was the XIVth that butchered the Sons of Vulkan. 
 

 

[Astartes Consul]

I genuinely hope that GW starts to deal with all major leaks like this... https://thehorushearsay.com/ 

 

 

[phandaal]

Just now, DuskRaider said:

What battle is this box supposed to represent? I can’t recall a time when Irons Warriors squared off against Salamanders save perhaps Isstvan V. Even then, I don’t think they saw much Legion vs Legion combat focused on the two, I seem to remember it was the XIVth that butchered the Sons of Vulkan. 

 

It is Isstvan V. GW has a whole 400-hour countdown going for the release, teasing the arrival on Isstvan V.

 

Presumably, that countdown just got a little bit shorter. 

 

Big fan of the egg termies, and that big dreadnought is excellent. Looking forward to some higher definition pictures soon.

[Petitioner's City]

1 minute ago, DuskRaider said:

Interesting to see GW finally recognize the Saturnine Pattern armor after literal decades of pretending it didn’t exist and having the fan base fill in the gaps. I’m not a fan of the design with the two plasma guns, but I do think there’s potential there. 
 

The Dreadnought is interesting, though I would have suspected a much more rudimentary armament if this is considered the first Mark of Dreadnought design. Kinda seems like they’re going bigger and better when it should be bigger and probably technologically inferior. 
 

The Saturnine Praetor looks horrible. Too much useless detail and crap slapped on. Seems to be their design philosophy for GW Heresy. 
 

I’m happy to see Mk. II get some recognition.  Besides Mk. III, this would have been the most common Armor Mark during the Heresy, with Mk. IV being much less common and Mk. VI being a blip on the map. 
 

What battle is this box supposed to represent? I can’t recall a time when Irons Warriors squared off against Salamanders save perhaps Isstvan V. Even then, I don’t think they saw much Legion vs Legion combat focused on the two, I seem to remember it was the XIVth that butchered the Sons of Vulkan. 
 

 

 

Saturnine isn't the oldest anymore - it's a late development :)

 

 

[Waaagh?]

Dunno if it's just me but it seems like the pics HorusHearsay has put up are slightly higher quality. Can see the MK2 legs better 

[Karhedron]

20 minutes ago, Matcap86 said:

 

I'd prefer it if their marketing team doesn't work on either the rules or the models, they have designers for that. You do realise that GW is not a singular behemoth entity and marketing efforts have no bearing on quality of minis or rules?

 

I feel quite sorry for the marketing team. They do put quite a lot of effort into their release shows and then it gets spoiled in advance by blurry leaks. 

[Astartes Consul]

5 minutes ago, phandaal said:

 

It is Isstvan V. GW has a whole 400-hour countdown going for the release, teasing the arrival on Isstvan V.

 

Presumably, that countdown just got a little bit shorter. 

 

Big fan of the egg termies, and that big dreadnought is excellent. Looking forward to some higher definition pictures soon.

 

As an aside, I guess this also shows that GW aren't averse to hopping around the timeline. Remember when 2.0 dropped with the focus on Cthonia, there was a lot of worry in the community online that the setting would now be stuck in an endless Siege of Terra loop.

[Jings]

Made a post when the rumours first started rearing their head speculating that Saturnine could fill a shooty Terminator niche. Looks like I was right on that. 

[CL_Mission]

11 minutes ago, 01RTB01 said:

Amusingly the horus hearsay site has some comments about the leaks.

These are pretty good. I hope the team can take the leaks in good humour, I can totally understand having something like this getting out to be a huge bummer for the team who's job it is to plan and put together reveal show and schedules and such, they probably had quite a bit planned for this one. For small releases it's one thing but I'm sure this would be a big deal. At the same time though I love a good rumour or leaked picture of up coming models and will share them with others when they turn up so it's not like I'm helping at all.

 

The enhanced images are selling me more on the Terminators, the one reservation I have is the plate over the abdomen and I think I would prefer them more if they  had a more standard waist with a belt buckle and everything. Even more sold on the Dreadnought too. 

[Doobles57]

I do like that they Horus Hearsay website is leaning into the leaks and going with them. Best way to turn the leak to a positive rather than being forced into an early full reveal like we've seen in the past.

 

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The box clearly states not suitable for under 3s, but also recommended for age 12+, meaning there is an age range where you can HOLD the box, but not open it.

Therefore, this photo must have been taken by a child aged 4-11. It’s the only explanation.

That might also account for the shoddy camera work. 

 

 

This did make me chuckle.

[Cyrox]

40 minutes ago, Marshal Rohr said:

You’ve removed the shield generator. 

 

Plan is to use some smaller cabling in its place, similar to the old metal version

[Marshal Rohr]

17 minutes ago, Petitioner's City said:

 

Saturnine isn't the oldest anymore - it's a late development :)

 

 

I hope the do a Vitruvian Man in the saturnine so they have to make him look like he’s doing a Fortnite dance in the armor

[phandaal]

3 minutes ago, CL_Mission said:

Even more sold on the Dreadnought too.

 

The more I see that dreadnought, the more I like it. That dude is as big as a knight!

[Mr Farson]

Not a fan of going back to isstvan at this point, start of the heresy is much more limiting when it comes to interesting rules development. All of first ed was early heresy siege of cthonia was a breath of fresh air for exploring later heresy

[Marshal Rohr]

1 minute ago, Mr Farson said:

Not a fan of going back to isstvan at this point, start of the heresy is much more limiting when it comes to interesting rules development. All of first ed was early heresy siege of cthonia was a breath of fresh air for exploring later heresy

Black Library really [redacted] Forge World with the asinine Ruinstorm making the entirety of the mid-Heresy useless as a setting. You can’t move around, you can’t coordinate, there’s no narrative space unless you’re just fine with staying in one place. 

[Astartes Consul]

10 minutes ago, Marshal Rohr said:

Black Library really [redacted] Forge World with the asinine Ruinstorm making the entirety of the mid-Heresy useless as a setting. You can’t move around, you can’t coordinate, there’s no narrative space unless you’re just fine with staying in one place. 

 

Disagree here. Huge, galaxy-spanning warp storm that causes complete chaos, makes precise navigation impossible and gives the Traitors the upper hand surely allows for every possible permutation of scenario?

 

Also, the FW Black Books managed to do plenty with the narrative they addressed. IMO it was more that they could never keep pace with the Black Library books.

[MoriyaSchism]

I'm not sure about this style of disintegrator.

 

[Urauloth]

I don't like the eggs, but if you're an egg armour fan and you've been waiting for them for years, then I'm happy for you. What I do like is the plastic Mk II, especially as a fan of the I and XIV Legions. I like the move back to Istvaan, too, if we get more releases in the future exploring different parts of the Heresy timeline. I'm not just saying that because I want to see stuff for Thramas* but because I think there's still a lot of potential in the setting, and I'd also like to see the range filled out and plasticised more before actually starting the siege proper.

 

_{*Only kind of}

[WARMASTER_]

3 hours ago, Old-Four-Arms said:

The rear of the box states "tools required " and "glue required", so I'm expecting full models, no ETB.

 

EDIT : IMO, right hand weapon for the Termies could be a disintegrator-type weapon as well. Front of box also shows a plasma & "disintegrator" loadout. 

I don’t think we’ll ever see ETB with the HH it’s not the target audience and GW thankfully seem to understand that 

[Jings]

7 minutes ago, MoriyaSchism said:

I'm not sure about this style of disintegrator.

 

 

I'm more curious as to what's in the "set", seeing as there's apparently two of them.

 

If I were a gambling man, I'd expect each set will have 5 each of a special and heavy variant (with the pictured being the heavy), and then another 5-10 pistols. Begs the question then if the Vets are getting Disintegrators as an option, will the same be true for TSS/HSS?
 

[WARMASTER_]

11 minutes ago, MoriyaSchism said:

I'm not sure about this style of disintegrator.

 

It’s looks appropriately DAOT to me but I get what you’re saying 

 

I’m hoping there’s a specific “veterans” upgrade sprue in the box with some cool bits on 

[StrangerOrders]

Moving a bit beyond the models, I do wonder what limitations we are going to see imposed on who can take Saturnine as far as consuls.

 

Because I would love to make an Egg wizard...

[Deschenus Maximus]

The Terminators reminded me of this old comic. Needless to say, I am not a fan.