New Edition, or Just Horus Hearsay?

[ZeroWolf]

38 minutes ago, Spazmolytic said:

I've chosen the Mechanicum as my army but this box has me wanting to finish my Ghost legion. The original starter box is around $320.00 CDN now from hobby shops so if this one is in that ballpark I may just wait till the individual releases unless this is the new starter box and sticks around for a few years.  I'm digging the designs I see here!

I believe the intent will be for this to be the new "starter" like Age of darkness, so in theory this'll stick around.

[Mr Farson]

25 minutes ago, Doobles57 said:

Looking again, the part numbers have me wondering if these are for the characters or not. 

 

The combi-melta sprue goes up to at least 24 parts which feels like a lot for a centurion. Not out of the realm of possibility, but on the high side. That said, the bit of basing on the part below it does indicate character.

 

The plasma going up to at least 70 parts rules that out as anything to do with the Saturnine Praetor to me. Wrist mounted option for the termi unit? Nipple option for the dread?

 

The axe praetor in age of darkness is like 27 peices

[Nephaston]

27 minutes ago, Doobles57 said:

Looking again, the part numbers have me wondering if these are for the characters or not. 

 

The combi-melta sprue goes up to at least 24 parts which feels like a lot for a centurion. Not out of the realm of possibility, but on the high side. That said, the bit of basing on the part below it does indicate character.

 

The plasma going up to at least 70 parts rules that out as anything to do with the Saturnine Praetor to me. Wrist mounted option for the termi unit? Nipple option for the dread?

 

Out of left field, what if the centurion has some options.  And part 67 also looks weird, like chains. And as far as I can tell none of the models seen on the box have any chain decor like that.

Edited yesterday at 11:39 AM by Nephaston

[redmapa]

What I find a bit odd about this is there doesn't seem to be any mention of an upgrade sprue to go with the disintegrators, will it be just a pack of 5 guns? That seems like such a missed opportunity when they couldve done a veteran/seekers/destroyers upgrade sprue with odd weapons like combis, Grenade launcher, disintegrates, etc. At least for Combi-weapons there's 3d printers.

[Mandragola]

That plasma blasted is very curious. I wouldn’t expect the Praetor to have 70 bits but it’s possible he’s on a sprue with something else - either the centurion or the saturnines I guess… though presumably the saturnines are two identical sprues. Dunno. 
 

It’s conceivable that this could be a sprue for something else, not in the box. New Cataphracti have been suggested, for example. But that doesn’t look like it fits on a terminator’s arm. 

[Nephaston]

5 minutes ago, redmapa said:

What I find a bit odd about this is there doesn't seem to be any mention of an upgrade sprue to go with the disintegrators, will it be just a pack of 5 guns? That seems like such a missed opportunity when they couldve done a veteran/seekers/destroyers upgrade sprue with odd weapons like combis, Grenade launcher, disintegrates, etc. At least for Combi-weapons there's 3d printers.

Maybe a full ensemble of disintegrators, heavy disintegrators, combi-disintegrators.

[Marshal Rohr]

Since the Iron Warrior is labeled “Iron Warrior Veteran” this is probably the Veteran Upgrade sprue and not just disintegrators. So a slew of combi-weapons, some disintegrators, blasters, etc. 

[Waaagh?]

25 minutes ago, Marshal Rohr said:

Since the Iron Warrior is labeled “Iron Warrior Veteran” this is probably the Veteran Upgrade sprue and not just disintegrators. So a slew of combi-weapons, some disintegrators, blasters, etc. 

 

As much as I'd love that, doesn't the box specifically name it as a disintegrator weapon sprue?

[dicebod]

3 hours ago, Nephaston said:

The centurion seems to have a pistol.

The box does have one of the MkII marines listed as a veteran, so either this is part of an extra sprue that isn't listed, part of the disintegrator sprue for some reason, or, they're starting to show off things beyond the box, as presumably a new edition will have more than just the starter box.

Looking again, I'm 99% sure this guy has the combi melta. The way the strap hangs definitely would indicate it's being held muzzle down, and on the sprue you can see the corner of a tactical rock. Also the fact that the arm doesn't have a flat join.

 

[Unknown Legionnaire]

Better pictures will be available on May 29th the official Horus Horsey Thursday (after 399 hours).

 

Sheesh, no I wanna make an allied detachment consisting of all Death Korps outriders. Oh wait, no ... maybe the rules for allies are gone as well. We'll see.

 

[Marshal Rohr]

49 minutes ago, Waaagh? said:

 

As much as I'd love that, doesn't the box specifically name it as a disintegrator weapon sprue?

Yeah, you’re right, I got caught up for a second. Maybe the centurion is multi-part instead of mono-build 

[Sky Potato]

So.

 

No Heresy Thursday today then? 

[DeadFingers]

In hindsight, the brick joke's trajectory should have been obvious, but now that it has landed it sure got me good.

 

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

4 hours ago, Mandragola said:

That plasma blasted is very curious. I wouldn’t expect the Praetor to have 70 bits but it’s possible he’s on a sprue with something else - either the centurion or the saturnines I guess… though presumably the saturnines are two identical sprues. Dunno. 
 

It’s conceivable that this could be a sprue for something else, not in the box. New Cataphracti have been suggested, for example. But that doesn’t look like it fits on a terminator’s arm. 

70 bits for the Sallie Praetor?! Well, that would make sense if Curze had his hands on him before you do.

[WARMASTER_]

Slightly off topic but as it’s a heresy rumour I’ll put it here Valrak said that MKV is the next armour to be released much like MKIII was a mid edition drop so it’s good news for us MKV fan boys 

 

I hope it comes with a with a seeker / veteran style upgrade sprue release too much like how the HH command squad did 

[OttoVonAwesome]

9 hours ago, Marshal Rohr said:

Since the Iron Warrior is labeled “Iron Warrior Veteran” this is probably the Veteran Upgrade sprue and not just disintegrators. So a slew of combi-weapons, some disintegrators, blasters, etc. 

I think it's multiple disintegrator types. If you look at the closest set of troops I mean they are blurry as hell but those aren't bolters they are carrying.

[Schrödingers Primarch]

54 minutes ago, WARMASTER_ said:

Slightly off topic but as it’s a heresy rumour I’ll put it here Valrak said that MKV is the next armour to be released much like MKIII was a mid edition drop so it’s good news for us MKV fan boys

Fantastic if true and that would align with the MKV resin models being sold out online. Sounds like we're getting MKIV and MKVII for HH 4.0 if they keep the trend of 2 Marks per edition. 

[WARMASTER_]

8 minutes ago, Schrödingers Primarch said:

Fantastic if true and that would align with the MKV resin models being sold out online. Sounds like we're getting MKIV and MKVII for HH 4.0 if they keep the trend of 2 Marks per edition. 

We’re definitely a way off but I can’t wait for MKVII re sculpts is THE classic armour MK so it needs home somewhere especially for us veteran players who grew up with it 

[Marshal Loss]

If true, it'd be a pity to leave the old Mark IV kit languishing for another few years as it looks pretty bad alongside the newer kits. Personally I think it would make more sense to use armour patterns that aren't already in plastic in conjunction with new edition releases (VI, II, V with new edition/starter boxes, III, IV as mid edition refreshes). It will be nice to see Mark V in plastic though. 

[WARMASTER_]

I think I’d rather have a new MK released in this case after seeing the MKV apothecary I just want them in plastic now, I know what you’re saying though the newer MKIV sons of Horus sculpts are beautiful 

 

Catapharctti will also hopefully be a mid edition drop but I fear it’ll be a launch box addition so we’re probably 3 years away from that one too I could see a MKIV + 
Cataphractti box wasn’t that the original heresy release after all 

[soviet1337]

I think the Cataphracti kit still holds up pretty well, it just needs a weapons and arms upgrade sprue. 

[Brother Kraskor]

Agree, I'm in no rush for new Cataphractii when there's so much (breachers, seekers, flyers to name a few) that could afford to be made plastic first. Refreshing terminators would also mean all the legion-specific ones too which would be a long undertaking. 

[Corswain]

Not sure about all the Legion specific terminators but the plastic Cataphractii (and Tartaros) are good for scale anyway.

I'm sure they could sharpen up some detail and maybe make them more dynamic with an update but I don't see much need for it urgently.

Edited 8 hours ago by Corswain

[Matcap86]

On 5/15/2025 at 1:17 AM, SkimaskMohawk said:

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Seems like someone on the marketing team saw us arguing .

 

Now I'll retract my statement that there's 0 indication of LI rules making it over and you have a point. 

 

[LameBeard]

GW already confirmed they are looking at redesigning Tartaros and Cataphracti to come in line with the new Indomitus scale. No timescale given but another 3 years for a launch box seems like a long time even by their standards?

 

Some people are put off the current Tartaros for looking small next to mk vi - hence why upscaling tutorials exist. Scale creep continues.