Horus Heresy New Edition, or Just Horus Hearsay?

[Stitch5000]

18 minutes ago, Mandragola said:

I think you’re probably right. Unfortunately the lawyers and sales people hate the thought of third parties making money from GW’s IP. Anything that generates a market for printers is out of bounds. 
 

This is madness of course. And it goes along with them leaving the door wide open by failing to produce plastic breachers and so many other things for years on end, with the result that people print whole units instead. 

Owning your product and making your intellectual property (design) protected is like the first step towards creating a business plan. It won't just be the lawyers and the sales people, it will be ANYONE with a financial interest in the business. 

That said, GW literally cannot stop you collecting whatever you want to represent your army. I find it amusing how much fuss is generated by what GW do and don't make, when they literally have ZERO control over what you do with your purchases when in other spheres, intentional incompatibility is sold as a feature. 

[sarabando]

It is within GWs best interest to make as many minis for what the community wants. Because if they dont 3rd parties will, once exposed to 3rd parties the chances of that person then trying other games is higher, different paints, different manufacturing methods. Next thing you know you have a competetor not a customer as they start their own company, filling a customer niche that you arent. Like trench crusade, zeogenisis, Xwing, etc. 

[Joe]

I like how of the three alternative games listed there only Trench Crusade has any momentum - and it technically shares a space with other warband games such as Necromunda, Frostgrave/Stargrave, etc. Most people I've spoken to have written Zeo Genesis off as Amerislop, and X-Wing has been dead for years due to how badly mismanaged it was.

 

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It is within GWs best interest to make as many minis for what the community wants. 

 

It's within Games Workshop's best interests to make miniatures that will sell enough to turn a profit. What the community wants and what the community will buy in large enough quantities to ensure the product is a success are two wildly different things.

[Astartes Consul]

What could it mean?

 

[Marshal Rohr]

29 minutes ago, Joe said:

I like how of the three alternative games listed there only Trench Crusade has any momentum - and it technically shares a space with other warband games such as Necromunda, Frostgrave/Stargrave, etc. Most people I've spoken to have written Zeo Genesis off as Amerislop, and X-Wing has been dead for years due to how badly mismanaged it was.

 

 

It's within Games Workshop's best interests to make miniatures that will sell enough to turn a profit. What the community wants and what the community will buy in large enough quantities to ensure the product is a success are two wildly different things.

This has really always been the case. Trench crusade is so successful because it taps into the Inq28/Souls/Grimdark. There’s GW and there’s everything else. Zoe Genesis is anime tho, not American. 

Edited May 22 by Marshal Rohr

[Stitch5000]

1 hour ago, sarabando said:

It is within GWs best interest to make as many minis for what the community wants. Because if they dont 3rd parties will, once exposed to 3rd parties the chances of that person then trying other games is higher, different paints, different manufacturing methods. Next thing you know you have a competetor not a customer as they start their own company, filling a customer niche that you arent. Like trench crusade, zeogenisis, Xwing, etc. 

I would argue that it is within GW's best interest to make you want the minis that they make... You only want them because they created the idea.

This is why they have stopped perpetuating ideas (through open-ended rules) that they are not yet making models for. 

Every time in the past that they have done this, they have lost their rights to a little piece of their own IP, because it is much harder to protect something you don't actually make. 

[Marshal Loss]

 

I love this site

[SkimaskMohawk]

Missed opportunity to assign the incorrect marks of armour as an added touch of trolling lol

[Waaagh?]

8 minutes ago, Marshal Loss said:

 

I love this site

 

I'd actually love it each armour mark had it's own little rule. Nothing insane but just a nice little bonus etc.

 

Obviously not the legion locking part though.

[Marshal Rohr]

1 minute ago, Waaagh? said:

 

I'd actually love it each armour mark had it's own little rule. Nothing insane but just a nice little bonus etc.

 

Obviously not the legion locking part though.

Pretty sure we are actually going the other direction, with existing unit subtypes going away. 

[apologist]

15 minutes ago, Astartes Consul said:

What could it mean?

 

Intriguing! I'd hazard a guess that's the upper torso of the new Saturnine Terminator; the collar at the top – but as to the text, who knows? Fun to speculate!

 

Since this looks like an artwork rather than miniature (though I may well be wrong on that – perhaps a digitally painted/enhanced miniature?), maybe the foundations being shaken are how the army books are presented? 

 

Might just be a reference to the surprise ambush/betrayal that formed the Isstvan Dropsite Massacre?

 

Perhaps it officially becoming part of the main studio, rather than boxed games?

 

Maybe a good-humoured and intentional wind-up of the fanbase? :)

[Dezron]

37 minutes ago, Astartes Consul said:

What could it mean?

 

 

Since eagle has only one head, it obviously mean we're going back to Unification Wars. 

 

Or we're getting new Raven Guard caharacter. 

[CL_Mission]

Now this is one funky looking bit. I'm going to guess it goes on the back of the dread.

[Marshal Rohr]

What are the odds they preview the box tomorrow with nothing else and then it comes out at Christmas like Legiones Imperialis 

[Brother Kraskor]

34 minutes ago, Stitch5000 said:

I would argue that it is within GW's best interest to make you want the minis that they make... You only want them because they created the idea.

This is why they have stopped perpetuating ideas (through open-ended rules) that they are not yet making models for. 

Every time in the past that they have done this, they have lost their rights to a little piece of their own IP, because it is much harder to protect something you don't actually make. 

This is it, they are in a very strong position because they can both create the demand and the supply. Like eg. Sotheby's in the art world, essentially dictating what is tasteful and then supplying it. 

[skylerboodie]

1 hour ago, Astartes Consul said:

What could it mean?

 

the website version of this image is accompanied by:

"Not My Aquila

Cannot believe this! Official art from GW shows this complete redesign of the imperial aquila. IT’S ONLY GOT ONE HEAD. We’re hearing the two-headed eagle we know and love is now 40K ONLY. 

In actual shock. Do we need to file one of the heads of all our older models?"

 

lol

[Gorgoff]

1 hour ago, Astartes Consul said:

What could it mean?

 

;)

[ZeroWolf]

That Horus Hear'say site is one of the best things GW have done in years. While it could quickly become a dead horse, I would like to see a 40k next year as I feel the trolling could go off the charts.

[Marshal Rohr]

It became a dead horse when we saw the box and the playtesters answered questions at one of the UK events. 

[Mogger351]

33 minutes ago, Gorgoff said:

;)

This one interests me, the eagle wasn't handed out much, its not the right colour for custodes or emp children, it looks too big to be marine armour and the shape is close to the chest of a castellax.

[Cryptix]

2 hours ago, SkimaskMohawk said:

Missed opportunity to assign the incorrect marks of armour as an added touch of trolling lol

They did: Death Guard favored MkIII and Iron Warriors favored MkII

[Arendious]

3 hours ago, Marshal Loss said:

 

I love this site

*chuckles in Alpha Legion*

 

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

2 hours ago, skylerboodie said:

the website version of this image is accompanied by:

"Not My Aquila

Cannot believe this! Official art from GW shows this complete redesign of the imperial aquila. IT’S ONLY GOT ONE HEAD. We’re hearing the two-headed eagle we know and love is now 40K ONLY. 

In actual shock. Do we need to file one of the heads of all our older models?"

 

lol

The AcTuAl travesty is that the single-headed eagle is looking (previously it was blind for that direction) to the right which means future as if the salvation of the Imperium would be in that direction. However everybody and his dog knows that the priests of Mars scour the galaxy for ancient archeotech to save humanity from peril. No more grimdark but bright Girlyman-One-Man-Show.

[Gorgoff]

4 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

This one interests me, the eagle wasn't handed out much, its not the right colour for custodes or emp children, it looks too big to be marine armour and the shape is close to the chest of a castellax.

It's on the Saturnite chests

 

[Mogger351]

3 minutes ago, Gorgoff said:

It's on the Saturnite chests

 

Yup my bad