New Edition, or Just Horus Hearsay?

[Mechanicus Tech-Support]

Anyone else have a little hell ya! moment when the warlord used its gatling megabolter?

[firestorm40k]

Great miniatures, but utterly disheartened by the new rules, and by the fact existing players are facing an approximate £100 'hobby tax' to carry on playing the game (new rules, Liber, and now tokens ). 

 

I think at my local gaming group the existing Heresy players are going to stick to 2nd Edition. I'm certainly in that camp - I'd rather the £100 went on new models, thanks very much GW 

 

 

[Tastyfish]

Just now, Mechanicus Tech-Support said:

Anyone else have a little hell ya! moment when the warlord used its gatling megabolter?

 

Macro-gatling blaster, the megabolters are a bit different and carapace weapons rather than being from the autocannon family.

I got excited as I was hoping it was going to be an Age of Darkness preview rather than just Heresy and this was standing in for that section of the game's cinematic.

[Misterduch]

Honestly, I was pretty negative about the preator but the alt build actually looks great imo

[Xanthous]

Don't think it's been posted, so here are the options for the Praetor from the stream. A surprising variety for a Heresy character.

[Wispy]

I can't believe they announced another 40k Space Wolves kit at the end. </jk>

 

 

2 minutes ago, Xanthous said:

Don't think it's been posted, so here are the options for the Praetor from the stream. A surprising variety for a Heresy character.

yeah probably because they don't ever want to make another Saturine anything after this!

Edited 11 hours ago by Wispy

[TheArtilleryman]

The MK II marines look amazing. Not a fan of the saturnine or the new books. I’m not fearing missing out on the box set this time which is good. As expected I’ll maybe look out for some of the marines when they start popping up on eBay. I’ve still got plenty of special weapons left to mix them up a bit too.

[Waaagh?]

7 minutes ago, firestorm40k said:

Great miniatures, but utterly disheartened by the new rules, and by the fact existing players are facing an approximate £100 'hobby tax' to carry on playing the game (new rules, Liber, and now tokens ). 

 

I think at my local gaming group the existing Heresy players are going to stick to 2nd Edition. I'm certainly in that camp - I'd rather the £100 went on new models, thanks very much GW 

 

 

 

Should be cheaper than that. Last time the rulebook could be had for as little as £12 due to the mass of boxes being parted out. 

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

Good:

- Stats from Rogue Trader added to the game.

- Status effects added to the game.

 

Bad:

- Liber Books revamped (Bookromunda).

- Scale creep (New Praetor as big as Primarch). New Primarchs will be increased in scale to.

 

Result for me:

No purchase. 

[Marshal Loss]

Sneaky!

 

[Marshal Reinhard]

Interesting with the arms on the saturnine: They appear to be ball jointed, which should give an interesting range of motion for poses without requiring modification

[CL_Mission]

5 minutes ago, Xanthous said:

Don't think it's been posted, so here are the options for the Praetor from the stream. A surprising variety for a Heresy character.

 

 

The Imperial Fist one looks superb.

[StrangerOrders]

I gotta say, leaks and all, that show lived up to the hype, well done on them!

 

More or less confirmed Talons are getting a revamp/expansion like the Admech and SA got yeah?

[firestorm40k]

2 minutes ago, Waaagh? said:

 

Should be cheaper than that. Last time the rulebook could be had for as little as £12 due to the mass of boxes being parted out. 

Still got to buy a new Liber, which will be about £50 (given inflation), and those status tokens. 

 

Then there's the expansions like Siege of Cthonia etc that are also invalidated - that's another £40-odd down the tubes, having to buy whichever supplement has the rules you want for the new edition e.g. Zone Mortalis 

[jaxom]

Anyone want to bet there'll be a MkII Battle Group box? And it'll be the first place to get the MkII Assault Marines?

[CL_Mission]

1 minute ago, jaxom said:

Anyone want to bet there'll be a MkII Battle Group box? And it'll be the first place to get the MkII Assault Marines?

Feels unlikely with them being in the big box. Unless there was a MK.VI battle group at some point that I'm forgetting about.

[Marshal Loss]

Initial 5am pre-coffee thoughts

1. Hype!
2. Really love all the models and the declaration that the transition from resin to plastic is accelerating (I hope they reach Legion-specific in the not too distant future). The Mark II Assault Marine was the surprise favourite and I'm impressed by the options on the various Saturnine kits.
3. Trailer was spectacular.
4. Books on launch good; the added rules reentry cost so soon after 2.0 will be hard to take for many. For me, it will boil down to whether the changes to the game are an improvement.
5. On rules, I'm a little nervous of the mention of fewer restrictions on army building. I really do love the FOC and the structure it enforces, but guess we'll see how it all works together in practice. The other changes I'll need time and more information to digest.

All in all not an exaggeration to say I think this is the best online preview they've ever done. The only thing missing for me was a little interview with Andy Hoare/one of the actual designers.

 

Terrible EC screenshots for my fellow degenerates

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Marshal Loss

[Lord Marshal]

Those are the old Drop Pods in the back right? Wonder if 30k will get a repackage afterall?

 

[lansalt]

I don't remember seeing this art of MkIV armour previously in the Black Books. Could this be a teaser of a future release?

 

 

[Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf]

1 minute ago, Lord Marshal said:

Those are the old Drop Pods in the back right? Wonder if 30k will get a repackage afterall?

 

I think are the old ones. The new ones are weapon-less vehicles.

[Misterduch]

13 minutes ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

Good:

- Stats from Rogue Trader added to the game.

- Status effects added to the game.

 

Bad:

- Liber Books revamped (Bookromunda).

- Scale creep (New Praetor as big as Primarch). New Primarchs will be increased in scale to.

 

Result for me:

No purchase. 

 

Why would the primarchs be scaled up when saturnines are clearly a centurion-esque exo suit?

[Matcap86]

2 minutes ago, lansalt said:

I don't remember seeing this art of MkIV armour previously in the Black Books. Could this be a teaser of a future release?

 

 

 

Caught that one as well! Think we're looking at mk4 in about a years time.

Edited 10 hours ago by Matcap86

[MoriyaSchism]

20 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said:

Those are the old Drop Pods in the back right? Wonder if 30k will get a repackage afterall?

 

Is it me or does this drop pod weapon seem different? Doesn't look like the missile launcher or the storm bolter.

 

Edit: It's just the rear of the default storm bolter.

Edited 10 hours ago by MoriyaSchism

[Lord Marshal]

Looks like TOW-esq "yes you can officially kitbash these units, here's how" are in the Not!Arcane Journals too.

 

[Waaagh?]

11 minutes ago, firestorm40k said:

Still got to buy a new Liber, which will be about £50 (given inflation), and those status tokens. 

 

Then there's the expansions like Siege of Cthonia etc that are also invalidated - that's another £40-odd down the tubes, having to buy whichever supplement has the rules you want for the new edition e.g. Zone Mortalis 

 

To be honest I reckon you could still likely play all the missions from the expansions.