New Edition, or Just Horus Hearsay?

[DuskRaider]

53 minutes ago, Marshal Rohr said:

And whose scheme is the one in the new plates hmmm ? I am the best to ever do it. The LeBron/Jordan/Woods/Ovi of being right in internet arguments. 

If you’re not doing your Iron Hands in the oil slick scheme of the Black Books, you’re doing it wrong because that was the coolest look they’ve ever had and that’s a hill I will die on. Just like their Primarch. 

[Nephaston]

8 hours ago, StrangerOrders said:

MKIII for a few legions was alternating between showing the new and old armour designs. Makes me wonder if MKIII actually did not do that well.

Probably more like; People have significant collections of the old plastic MkIII and are quite fond of them, unlike MkII and MkVI which where previously only in resin and metal with only insane people having significant amounts of it.

And it's not particularly hard to handwave these different skews of armour within the setting; from subtle variations between forge worlds from outright different approach in assembly (making a MkII suit and then stapling the plates on, to outright building a MkIII suit). I personally like to call the newer plastics MkIIIb

[Marshal Rohr]

2 hours ago, DuskRaider said:

If you’re not doing your Iron Hands in the oil slick scheme of the Black Books, you’re doing it wrong because that was the coolest look they’ve ever had and that’s a hill I will die on. Just like their Primarch. 

One of my favorite interactions in the hobby was sending the forge world recipe to a new player and getting the response “what the [redacted] is smoke?”

[Nephaston]

40 minutes ago, Marshal Rohr said:

One of my favorite interactions in the hobby was sending the forge world recipe to a new player and getting the response “what the [redacted] is smoke?”

Now I imagine the average iron hands player just hot-boxing while painting for authentic grime.

[jaxom]

9 hours ago, Lord Marshal said:

Interestingly on the article they mixed some of the older MkIII plates in with the NuIII ones.

They may not have art for those three in the IIIb plate. Or they kept it for IH and WE because they're variants with with special bits? It is interesting to me that there's a size difference in the art.

 

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[BitsHammer]

4 hours ago, Marshal Rohr said:

One of my favorite interactions in the hobby was sending the forge world recipe to a new player and getting the response “what the [redacted] is smoke?”

I have to admit, I don't think I've seen that recipe.

[Marshal Rohr]

1 hour ago, BitsHammer said:

I have to admit, I don't think I've seen that recipe.

It’s incredibly complicated. Several clears in various mixtures. 

[Matcap86]

For anyone not looking to recreate ancient tech arcana recipes with clears and floor polish and the likes; Henry from Cult of Paint has done some variants with contemporary stuff like contrast paints and golds. 

 

 

 

 

His Meduson, Endryd Haar, legions imperialis and older Iron Hands video are all different examples of getting a similar look to the old FW recipe.

Edited Tuesday at 03:35 PM by Matcap86
Missed an R in Endryd

[Cyrox]

Interestingly, the Iron Hands Saturnine terminator looks to be painted using the older Black scheme:

 

 

 

Which to be honest, I much prefer over the Gunmetal look, but that's just my own preference.

[Brother Kraskor]

Whatever colour they are, their heads come off the same! chuckles in Slaanesh 

[Robbienw]

Looks great in Iron Hands colours

[sarabando]

only concern i have is that ive not seen any pose variation on the dreads legs yet....

[Nephaston]

1 hour ago, sarabando said:

only concern i have is that ive not seen any pose variation on the dreads legs yet....

 

Might be the case of fixed leg poses, which you'd think could be avoided on those seemingly fully mechanical legs and their ball joints.

Or, if were being optimistic, it's fully posable, but you need to remove a plastic nubbin like with some dreadnoughts.

[BitsHammer]

GW often paints resin prints so they may not have had the posing options of a plastic kit. We'll have to see the sprues to work out if we have fixed legs or not.

[SkimaskMohawk]

3 hours ago, Cyrox said:

Interestingly, the Iron Hands Saturnine terminator looks to be painted using the older Black scheme:

 

 

 

Which to be honest, I much prefer over the Gunmetal look, but that's just my own preference.

 

This is the first scheme that's actually sold me on the saturnine. Their super out of place tech and aesthetic works great for iron hands. 

[jaxom]

For me, it was the White Scars. 

[Nephaston]

27 minutes ago, BitsHammer said:

GW often paints resin prints so they may not have had the posing options of a plastic kit. We'll have to see the sprues to work out if we have fixed legs or not.

 

They did show off one side of the saturnine sprue and both sides of the praetor sprue, and it does indeed look like they have ball joints. I think I can see some nubs on some of them.

 

Oh and the hearsay site updated to tell which was an actual tease and which was misdirection.

Notable, it does talk about the saturnine terminators as not quite full dreadnoughts

Edited Tuesday at 12:17 PM by Nephaston
More stuff

[Fire Golem]

23 minutes ago, jaxom said:

For me, it was the White Scars. 

The White Scars one looks excellent. I just don’t particularly see them as being overly White Scars (although obviously they’d have had some in the way every legion had a bit of everything). 

[Cyrox]

The Hearsay website has now been updated with many 'Truth or Lies' style confirmations, with some really funny comments

 

Fair play GW!

 

As for the scheme - it was the Imperial Fist Saturnine Praetor in alternate pose that did it for me - that was my Philip Fry money moment

[DeadFingers]

37 minutes ago, Nephaston said:

 

They did show off one side of the saturnine sprue and both sides of the praetor sprue, and it does indeed look like they have ball joints. I think I can see some nubs on some of them.

 

Oh and the hearsay site updated to tell which was an actual tease and which was misdirection.

Notable, it does talk about the saturnine terminators as not quite full dreadnoughts

The Saturnines do look very poseable, in the vein of the plastic Cerastus or the Titanicus titans. Makes me wonder if they're eventually getting a melee-focused variant, as the dual heavy gun loadout without forearms doesn't really lend itself to a lot of dynamic poses. I guess they've got the fist and gun loadout, but still, I'd love to see the Saturnine version of lightning claws, power weapons, chain weapons or whatever other melee weaponry they could cook up for these big lads.

Edited Tuesday at 12:44 PM by DeadFingers

[Brother Sutek]

14 hours ago, Nephaston said:

Probably more like; People have significant collections of the old plastic MkIII and are quite fond of them, unlike MkII and MkVI which where previously only in resin and metal with only insane people having significant amounts of it.

And it's not particularly hard to handwave these different skews of armour within the setting; from subtle variations between forge worlds from outright different approach in assembly (making a MkII suit and then stapling the plates on, to outright building a MkIII suit). I personally like to call the newer plastics MkIIIb

I am forever grateful that I didn't buy the old metal IH bodies back when they released them for 40k. They are beautiful and if I had them I'd feel the need to get more and use them as my 30k army models. This happened to me with my Death Guard as I had an army of them after the 3.5 codex dropped. Between those and the old plague marine minis FW released I have a lot of shorter marines, compared to recent releases. I don't know if my financial situation could survive another army of hard to find minis!

[Nephaston]

7 minutes ago, DeadFingers said:

The Saturnines do look very poseable, in the vein of the plastic Cerastus or the Titanicus titans. Makes me wonder if they're eventually getting a melee-focused variant, as the dual heavy gun loadout without forearms doesn't really lend itself to a lot of dynamic poses. I guess they've got the fist and gun loadout, but still, I'd love to see the Saturnine version of lightning claws, power weapons, chain weapons or whatever other melee weaponry they could cook up for these big lads.

 

Maybe some legion specific ones as well. I could for instance imagine Red Butchers as a slight retcon, since those suits get turned off, and just imagining a quadriplegic nail-infused frothing troglodyte basically vibrating within his cushioned but increasingly blood stained coffin-suit does hit the right notes for me.

 

Also on the praetor it looks like he could feasibly have two fists.

[Captain Idaho]

Ooo I wonder if there's a bit of work that can be had to create 2 characters from the bits available and a spare Saturnine Terminator... because a unit of 5 might be a thing!

[painting.for.my.sanity]

1 hour ago, Nephaston said:

 

They did show off one side of the saturnine sprue and both sides of the praetor sprue, and it does indeed look like they have ball joints. I think I can see some nubs on some of them.

 

Oh and the hearsay site updated to tell which was an actual tease and which was misdirection.

Notable, it does talk about the saturnine terminators as not quite full dreadnoughts

 

Am I totally losing the plot, or did they say two sprues of three terminators in the show? Because I'm counting shoulder pad halves etc and can only see enough for two terminators on the non-character sprue. Do we reckon it's actually three lots of two, or there's another sprue they didn't hold up or similar?

[BitsHammer]

Two units of three is mentioned on Warcom.