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5 minutes ago, Urauloth said:

I might just have missed it in the thread, but what do veterans look like right now? I know they're split into tac and assault varieties, but that's all.

2W and 2A, with lots of weapon options. They're a neat way of creating 'Codex-style' Space Marines, with one heavy and one special weapon; though they're also more flexible than that.

 

I'm very pleased with them, because I think they're great rules for 'truescale/movie marines' when fighting things like Solar Auxilia. Gives them a bit more beef and keeps the numbers low.

On 7/20/2025 at 6:07 PM, TheTrans said:

How do we have so many extra words in the rulebook and are still arguing RAW/RAI/Generally :cuss: ruleswriting....

 

There is a reason why case law is a thing. No matter how dense the rules are, something is going to come down to interpretation. And then the interpretation will become the accepted definition of the rules, eventually.

3 hours ago, phandaal said:

 

There is a reason why case law is a thing. No matter how dense the rules are, something is going to come down to interpretation. And then the interpretation will become the accepted definition of the rules, eventually.

It is a thing. It's also the reason I didn't do a law degree after my A-Levels. Bringing it into games is deeply frustrating.

3 hours ago, phandaal said:

 

There is a reason why case law is a thing. No matter how dense the rules are, something is going to come down to interpretation. And then the interpretation will become the accepted definition of the rules, eventually.

 

2 minutes ago, 01RTB01 said:

It is a thing. It's also the reason I didn't do a law degree after my A-Levels. Bringing it into games is deeply frustrating.

And all this is why Designer Commentaries are a gold standard for a rule set.

On 7/21/2025 at 12:21 AM, JeffJedi said:

While I wait for the new box and books, does anyone know what bayonets and chain bayonets do?

Look cool............... What more do you need!

 

Oh! Rules wise - Don't know.......... May as well check back in two and a half years when they come to mug us off again.

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