New Edition, or Just Horus Hearsay?

[Mogger351]

19 minutes ago, Marshal Rohr said:

How are we still talking about a three years cycle when it’s literally going to take three more years to confirm if we are on a three year cycle. 

The writing is and was on the wall. The only way there won't be is if they alternate with ToW, which seems unlikely.

 

I imagine the executives go: "3 year cycles make big stonks go up. Keep do 3 year thingy."

[Marshal Rohr]

43 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

The writing is and was on the wall. The only way there won't be is if they alternate with ToW, which seems unlikely.

 

I imagine the executives go: "3 year cycles make big stonks go up. Keep do 3 year thingy."

Its odd you’re using your Time Machine to argue on the internet instead of stopping a disaster or giving King Harold crew-served weapons. 

[Anvilarium]

14 minutes ago, Marshal Rohr said:

Its odd you’re using your Time Machine to argue on the internet instead of stopping a disaster or giving King Harold crew-served weapons. 

They aren't wrong though. It's been 3 years since 2.0 was released, and now we have 3.0.

I guarantee that unless Horus Heresy massively loses popularity (or we all die in a nuclear inferno) we will see 4.0 in or around June 2028.

[Mogger351]

25 minutes ago, Marshal Rohr said:

Its odd you’re using your Time Machine to argue on the internet instead of stopping a disaster or giving King Harold crew-served weapons. 

No time machine needed, its simple extrapolation of known business practices and evidence given by GW over the last decade:

 

- They like to have a big summer release every year.

- They've shown that killteam et al. Don't fill that role.

- AoS and 40k are in 3 year cycles

- A 3rd system is needed to fill the gap year

- HH has had attention and funding in producing multiple plastic ranges

- It had been 3 years since a modern HH rules release

 

Logic stated it was coming, no time machines needed, just a healthy dose of analysis.

 

Logic states in 3 years they'll want another big summer release. Either HH starts to do less well (which isn't want anyone who likes the game should want anyway), ToW overtakes it in popularity (possible as they modernise factions), or they invent another game to fill the slot that has been selling (feels unlikely).

 

So basically, to think there *won't* be another edition in 3 years is bad news for HH either way.

[Antarius]

I sorta agree that it's pointless to argue about since we can't/won't know if Heresy is now on a three year cycle, but OTOH it isn't exactly crazy to think so, given what we do know, so I get why people are apprehensive about it.

[Lord Marshal]

First 'fluff piece' dropped, basically just an ad telling you to buy stuff ahead of the new edition. They did drop some new colour plates though!

 

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Interestingly on the article they mixed some of the older MkIII plates in with the NuIII ones.

 

Edited Monday at 02:06 PM by Lord Marshal

[StrangerOrders]

Its super interesting that in their article today they blended new and old MKIII.

 

The legions painted in II and VI were new art and style across the board.

 

MKIII for a few legions was alternating between showing the new and old armour designs. Makes me wonder if MKIII actually did not do that well.

[Marshal Rohr]

 

9 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said:

First 'fluff piece' dropped, basically just an ad telling you to buy stuff ahead of the new edition. They did drop some new colour plates though!

 

 

Interestingly on the article they mixed some of the older MkIII plates in with the NuIII ones.

 

Man that’s wild, I distinctly remember being told to pound sand because the Iron Hands scheme on Meduson didn’t match the scheme in the rule book but here is Medusons scheme on the Iron Hands color plate. Curious indeed! Am I God’s gift to the hobby? I don’t know, but many people are saying this. 

[Joe]

11 minutes ago, StrangerOrders said:

MKIII for a few legions was alternating between showing the new and old armour designs. Makes me wonder if MKIII actually did not do that well.

 

I suspect it's more down to the fact that they've not got up-to-date colour plates for them yet - they were actively advertising for a new art team member to work on the colour plates recently, funnily enough. If we're looking at the sales metrics, the boxes (battle group and stand-alone release) all sold out on their initial production runs; so by GWs books they definitely did well.

[Marshal Rohr]

2 minutes ago, Joe said:

 

I suspect it's more down to the fact that they've not got up-to-date colour plates for them yet - they were actively advertising for a new art team member to work on the colour plates recently, funnily enough. If we're looking at the sales metrics, the boxes (battle group and stand-alone release) all sold out on their initial production runs; so by GWs books they definitely did well.

They do have the new plates for each legion, but the most likely scenario is the person doing images for the articles didn’t care enough to add them. If new Mark 3 didn’t do well it’s not like they’d can it. 

[Matcap86]

8 minutes ago, Joe said:

 

I suspect it's more down to the fact that they've not got up-to-date colour plates for them yet - they were actively advertising for a new art team member to work on the colour plates recently, funnily enough. If we're looking at the sales metrics, the boxes (battle group and stand-alone release) all sold out on their initial production runs; so by GWs books they definitely did well.

 

Weird thing is the Dark Angels one in old style mk3 seems to be art we've not seen before? Could always be old repurposed stuff. But still

 

Edit: Nvm it's from the Liber book. 

Edited Monday at 02:27 PM by Matcap86

[Marshal Rohr]

2 minutes ago, Matcap86 said:

 

Weird thing is the Dark Angels one in old style mk3 seems to be art we've not seen before? Could always be old repurposed stuff. But still

 

It was made during the last Black Book release, they’ve used it before. 

[Lord Marshal]

Another curious thing, none of the plates are in MkIV or V - though we've already seen the new colour plate design for IV when they flicked through the 3rd rulebook.

[Lautrec the Embraced]

To lighten the mood of those worried about 3 yrs edition cycling, here's a quick mock-up of a simple conversion that came to my mind - who doesn't miss musicians from WHFB?

 

 

[roryokane]

4 minutes ago, Lautrec the Embraced said:

To lighten the mood of those worried about 3 yrs edition cycling, here's a quick mock-up of a simple conversion that came to my mind - who doesn't miss musicians from WHFB?

 

 

*Fulgrim looks over with interest*

[MoriyaSchism]

1 hour ago, Lord Marshal said:

First 'fluff piece' dropped, basically just an ad telling you to buy stuff ahead of the new edition. They did drop some new colour plates though!

 

 

Interestingly on the article they mixed some of the older MkIII plates in with the NuIII ones.

 

Kind of funny seeing the new Mark III alongside the old Dark Angel. The lenses on the new Mark III always make me think of the old Okawara Gundam illustrations, they just look so sad.

[roryokane]

5 minutes ago, MoriyaSchism said:

Kind of funny seeing the new Mark III alongside the old Dark Angel. The lenses on the new Mark III always make me think of the old Okawara Gundam illustrations, they just look so sad.

Like this one, you mean? I can sortof see where you're coming from.

I have to be honest, if I could just order a truckload of the old Mk III helms to put on new Mk III bodies, I'd be fine with that. They just look so much better.

[Marshal Rohr]

31 minutes ago, Lautrec the Embraced said:

To lighten the mood of those worried about 3 yrs edition cycling, here's a quick mock-up of a simple conversion that came to my mind - who doesn't miss musicians from WHFB?

 

 

“My lord Horus, what is that sound?”

 

”That is the music of the 7th Legion. Dorn’s Synthlar Brethren.”

 

 

first Captain synthismund

 

fine I’ll stop 

Edited Monday at 04:01 PM by Marshal Rohr

[Mr Farson]

29 minutes ago, Lautrec the Embraced said:

To lighten the mood of those worried about 3 yrs edition cycling, here's a quick mock-up of a simple conversion that came to my mind - who doesn't miss musicians from WHFB?

 

 

Looking forward to using these as seekers along with the anniversary marine

[SkimaskMohawk]

2 hours ago, Marshal Rohr said:

 

Man that’s wild, I distinctly remember being told to pound sand because the Iron Hands scheme on Meduson didn’t match the scheme in the rule book but here is Medusons scheme on the Iron Hands color plate. Curious indeed! Am I God’s gift to the hobby? I don’t know, but many people are saying this. 

 

You got told to pound sand because you claimed that people who disliked medusons gunmetal scheme were too stupid to notice that's how the iron hands had been portrayed since 2nds launch, and then doubled down when shown the many different versions of schemes they were marketed in.

 

Spoiler

"the lighting is just different bro, they're all the same scheme"

 

 

[The boater]

Saw on Reddit, apparently there was a big display with the new stuff at dalas open? 
 

supposedly the sprues and models were on display too in their own case, anyone there that got pictures?

Edited Monday at 04:52 PM by The boater

[LameBeard]

1 hour ago, Mr Farson said:

Looking forward to using these as seekers along with the anniversary marine

Looking forward to seeing that. Feel free to send me the spare rapier platforms!

[Marshal Rohr]

2 hours ago, SkimaskMohawk said:

 

You got told to pound sand because you claimed that people who disliked medusons gunmetal scheme were too stupid to notice that's how the iron hands had been portrayed since 2nds launch, and then doubled down when shown the many different versions of schemes they were marketed in.

 

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"the lighting is just different bro, they're all the same scheme"

 

 

And whose scheme is the one in the new plates hmmm ? I am the best to ever do it. The LeBron/Jordan/Woods/Ovi of being right in internet arguments. 

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

8 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

The writing is and was on the wall. The only way there won't be is if they alternate with ToW, which seems unlikely.

 

I imagine the executives go: "3 year cycles make big stonks go up. Keep do 3 year thingy."

And then all the remaining apes in the board room hammered their shoes in agreement onto the desk. 

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

5 hours ago, Marshal Rohr said:

 

Man that’s wild, I distinctly remember being told to pound sand because the Iron Hands scheme on Meduson didn’t match the scheme in the rule book but here is Medusons scheme on the Iron Hands color plate. Curious indeed! Am I God’s gift to the hobby? I don’t know, but many people are saying this. 

Ahem:

 

https://ibb.co/album/RzKMh5

https://ibb.co/album/zGJWgZ

 

I got flak too in 2022 when this colour scheme was presented. Besides that the Iron Hands art in the HH card game uses a metallic scheme as well. Having three Legions with a black scheme was a bad move by GW. And in the end the Iron Hands look better in metallic.

 

And here is a video about colour schemes in 30K for everybody joining the Heresy with 3.0 for the first time. You can be much more creative within reasonable limits when it comes to painting your Legion during the Heresy as it is vastly larger than a miniscule chapter in 40K: