Horus Heresy New Edition, or Just Horus Hearsay?

[Lord Marshal]

Edit: Redundant reply.

 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Lord Marshal

[Astartes Consul]

7 hours ago, Marshal Rohr said:

Heresy July 5th after Fishmen, release on the 19th. Marines wave two on radio silence then quick drop in August. Heresy was moved to make room for Marines and strike while 40K players are mad they can’t have a Fellblade in 40K. 

 

Just wait until GW finally releases the Emperor as a Character Series kit - the 'Where are the 40k rules?' posts will be a sight to behold.

[Lord Marshal]

2 minutes ago, Astartes Consul said:

 

Just wait until GW finally releases the Emperor as a Character Series kit - the 'Where are the 40k rules?' posts will be a sight to behold.

 

Youtubers gonna have a field day with "The EMPEROR of MANKIND RETURNS in MODEL form?!" with :O thumbnails.

[Lord Marshal]

Saturnine kit focus.

 

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The kit also contains 12 heads – three each of four different designs. This means you can make sure each squad of three has the same head type, or all three different ones per unit. 

 

 

Sprues:

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And the Praetor sprues:

 

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Plus a more HD look at the alternative Praetor pose:

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Lord Marshal

[CL_Mission]

I'm really sold on these terminators now and the Praetor continues to look like a great kit.

[Irate Khornate]

I have a feeling that the new terminators are going to be ridiculous as per GW selling practices.

 

Also while I prefer the fists style Praetor, I keep hearing diggy diggy hole in the background every time I see it.

[arnesh88]

9 minutes ago, Irate Khornate said:

I have a feeling that the new terminators are going to be ridiculous as per GW selling practices.

I, too, am scarred by the broken meta of the Primaris Reavers, Firestrike Turrets, and Hammerfall Bunkers. I still am recovering to this day :P

[Alby the Slayer]

37 minutes ago, CL_Mission said:

I'm really sold on these terminators now and the Praetor continues to look like a great kit.

 

Yeah they are cool, I think they will be great for some of my 40k projects as old obuscure relics of a forgotten era. 

 

For me, the Praetor is even better in the second pose 'cause he has no cape. With this particular type of armour, he is better without it.

[Lord Marshal]

Annnnd a lore article for Saturnine Armour.

 

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Not everyone, not even every Space Marine, can effectively pilot it. It takes an especially strong, disciplined mind to utilise the armour… Some even whispered that a wearer needed to possess a measure of cybertheurgic resonance, although few are willing to speak upon this. Regardless of the difficulties of finding suitable pilots, each Legion was able to field Saturnine armour in at least limited quantities – the practical advantages it offered outweighing other concerns.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Lord Marshal

[DeadFingers]

Article says the Praetor has "two poses", but looking at the sprues for both the Praetor and the unit, they look way more poseable than that. The legs and arms are divided into sections, with circular and spherical joints on the shoulders, elbows, hips and knees, which should mean they're entirely poseable, bar maybe removing a small tab or something. Even the torsos are divided into chest and abs, and the front part of the boots seems to be a separate bit as well, so there's a lot that can be done with them.

 

Can pose them running, standing perfectly straight, maybe kneeling even, or doing a little jig if you so desire.

[Irate Khornate]

11 minutes ago, arnesh88 said:

I, too, am scarred by the broken meta of the Primaris Reavers, Firestrike Turrets, and Hammerfall Bunkers. I still am recovering to this day :P

May I have a slice of that pie? Looks delicious after all the picking lol. On a more serious note you have to admit though there are a lot of units they have released that were tuned to 11 for the sake of sales. I feel like the terminators are going to fall in that category unless for some reason their points cost are obscene.

[Fire Golem]

5 minutes ago, Irate Khornate said:

May I have a slice of that pie? Looks delicious after all the picking lol. On a more serious note you have to admit though there are a lot of units they have released that were tuned to 11 for the sake of sales. I feel like the terminators are going to fall in that category unless for some reason their points cost are obscene.

I think their balance just isn’t great, there’s just as many examples of new releases being rubbish as there are new releases being too good. 
 

The Kratos was the big new thing in HH 2.0 and as far as I’m aware it’s generally regarded as at best average? Certainly don’t think it’s overtuned. 

[Lord Marshal]

31 minutes ago, Irate Khornate said:

I have a feeling that the new terminators are going to be ridiculous as per GW selling practices.

 

Also while I prefer the fists style Praetor, I keep hearing diggy diggy hole in the background every time I see it.

 

2nd was the edition of the great plastification of vehicles, to the anger of people demanding plastic troops, the latter in large part because vehicles were comparatively quite bad this edition.

 

The AoD box also contained the Spartan as it's big fancy centrepiece, and was considered "meh" at best.

 

Solar Auxilia and Mechanicum also had their big plastification and were far lower down the power-totem than Marines, particularly the former.

 

As many times as something new is busted, there's nearly always been as many things new that just suck. I think GW's historically meh-at-best balancing is more to blame on all fronts rather than a cunning-plan-scheme.

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Lord Marshal

[SkimaskMohawk]

Hmmm, saturnine squad size is 3-6. That's the opposite of what I thought would happen, assuming it would be like the jet bikes 3-10 or the command squad 3-9.

 

Also surprised that the plasma cannons have barrage. I know bombard is in the name, but they don't exactly look like they can angle up and arc a shot.

 

The grille head looks hardcore though. Really like that look.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by SkimaskMohawk

[Nephaston]

Lore article talking about specifically selected pilots who may have cybertheurgic resonance, yada yada. Just tell me if the get their limbs chopped off to fit into it, come on geedubs you cowards!

[Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla]

19 minutes ago, Nephaston said:

Lore article talking about specifically selected pilots who may have cybertheurgic resonance, yada yada. Just tell me if the get their limbs chopped off to fit into it, come on geedubs you cowards!

 

Judging from the sprues...

 

[Nephaston]

57 minutes ago, Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla said:

 

Judging from the sprues...

 

 

Peak performance.

[Marshal Rohr]

2 hours ago, SkimaskMohawk said:

Hmmm, saturnine squad size is 3-6. That's the opposite of what I thought would happen, assuming it would be like the jet bikes 3-10 or the command squad 3-9.

 

Also surprised that the plasma cannons have barrage. I know bombard is in the name, but they don't exactly look like they can angle up and arc a shot.

 

The grille head looks hardcore though. Really like that look.

 

He leans back at the waist like he’s doing the limbo. 

[Nephaston]

Another thing to note is the praetor-specific gear and bling is on a separate small sprue. With how pose-able and modular the kit is by default I could see it serving as a basis for other saturnine characters.

[Iron Father Ferrum]

1 hour ago, Nephaston said:

Lore article talking about specifically selected pilots who may have cybertheurgic resonance, yada yada. Just tell me if the get their limbs chopped off to fit into it, come on geedubs you cowards!

 

I don't know what "cybertheurgic resonance" is, but it sounds awfully Iron Hands-y so I'm down.

[BitsHammer]

2 hours ago, SkimaskMohawk said:

Hmmm, saturnine squad size is 3-6. That's the opposite of what I thought would happen, assuming it would be like the jet bikes 3-10 or the command squad 3-9.

 

Also surprised that the plasma cannons have barrage. I know bombard is in the name, but they don't exactly look like they can angle up and arc a shot.

 

The grille head looks hardcore though. Really like that look.

 

I wouldn't be shocked if Jetbikes go 3-9 instead.

[01RTB01]

14 minutes ago, BitsHammer said:

I wouldn't be shocked if Jetbikes go 3-9 instead.

Nor would the 10 man squad I've built and painted lol.

 

Holding on before I build the jetbike command squad.

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

2 hours ago, Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla said:

 

Judging from the sprues...

 

This is going to be a strange butterfly...

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

33 minutes ago, Iron Father Ferrum said:

 

I don't know what "cybertheurgic resonance" is, but it sounds awfully Iron Hands-y so I'm down.

An excerpt from the Shadowrun RPG (Source: Shadowrun Wiki) which the devs might have played in the past to come up with that term:

 

Similar to Magic for mages and adepts, Resonance is the special attribute for technomancers. Technomancers interface with the Matrix using the power of their mind, and Resonance measures the strength of their ability to interact with and shape that environment (see Technomancers, p. 249).

 

 

 

3 hours ago, SkimaskMohawk said:

Hmmm, saturnine squad size is 3-6. That's the opposite of what I thought would happen, assuming it would be like the jet bikes 3-10 or the command squad 3-9.

 

Also surprised that the plasma cannons have barrage. I know bombard is in the name, but they don't exactly look like they can angle up and arc a shot.

 

The grille head looks hardcore though. Really like that look.

 

Squads with multiples of three lend themselves perfectly to create a Shattered Legion force.

[Marshal Rohr]

Cyber > Input/Output

Theurgy > Ritual

Resonance > Transferring/Storing Inputs/Energy

 

So someone’s latent Cybertheurgic Resonance is their ability to use tech inputs.