Codex Supplement: Black Templars & New Ancient

[Sete]

5 minutes ago, Chapter Master Valrak said:

I’ve said it for the last few months, like I said, I heard it was multiple release. It could be two, three, four or five models.

 

i know it’s definitely two for now :)

That's what I like to hear. I'll bet the cover dude is the Judiciar, the special chaplain.

[LSM]

5 hours ago, Chapter Master Valrak said:

I’ve said it for the last few months, like I said, I heard it was multiple release. It could be two, three, four or five models.

 

i know it’s definitely two for now :)

 

All with the Codex, or might some stuff be separated out and come with the end-of-edition narrative campaign?

[Dorn of War]

On 6/19/2025 at 10:55 AM, Chapter Master Valrak said:

I’ve said it for the last few months, like I said, I heard it was multiple release. It could be two, three, four or five models.

 

i know it’s definitely two for now :)

 

I love the model that's been shown. The best Chapter in the Imperium just got a little better. Praise be to the God Emperor that there are even more minis on the horizon. 

 

The Codex art is not great. The artist (be they human or AI) has an odd notion of perspective and the proportions of the human body. 

 

Now that Cathay is going on pre-order at the weekend, what is remaining that we know about?  (1) Heresy 3.0, (2) Space Wolves full launch and characters, (3) Templars, (4) Grey Knights, (5) drop pods (6) Imperial Knights (delayed), (7) SM Codex 2.0.  Surely the Templars can't be that far away now? 

 

Edited June 20 by Dorn of War

[Sete]

Valrak is whispering sweet little lies about an Execrator. "Execrator" can refer to someone who curses or denounces.

 

I'll go with the dude in the cover.

 

So it's like a librarian but instead of warp he just says mean things.

 

 

 

Edited June 20 by Sete

[Marshal Reinhard]

It's also the way of the Templars to dismantle the foe through sheer force of verbal disdain

[HeadlessCross]

52 minutes ago, Sete said:

 

So it's like a librarian but instead of warp he just says mean things.

 

 

 

Gotta call my ex girlfriend and let her know she's gonna be a 40k character

[Sir Clausel]

1 hour ago, Sete said:

 "Execrator"

Hate to be that guy but i think its Excoriator. Had to look it up my self.

Valrak sometimes mispronounces words very badly(which is totally fine). 

But i love the idea of a "reverse" Chaplain screaming curses and stuff. Can only imagine the fun and banter you can have at the table with it!

Edited June 20 by Sir Clausel

[Nephaston]

33 minutes ago, Sir Clausel said:

Valrak sometimes mispronounces words very badly(which is totally fine). 

 

I think he does that thing where he tries to guess the word by the shape, despite him never encountering it before, instead of sounding it out. 

Edited June 20 by Nephaston

[Orange Knight]

I'm very late to the party. The new model looks great. 

 

I've seen some complaints about poses being re-used, but that's not an issue for me in this case. 

[Dorn of War]

8 hours ago, Sir Clausel said:

Hate to be that guy but i think its Excoriator. Had to look it up my self.

Valrak sometimes mispronounces words very badly(which is totally fine). 

But i love the idea of a "reverse" Chaplain screaming curses and stuff. Can only imagine the fun and banter you can have at the table with it!

 

I was thinking the same thing myself, as this would make a lot more sense.  Funny thing though is that there is an Imperial Fist successor chapter called The Excoriators. 

Edited June 21 by Dorn of War

[Marshal Reinhard]

A chapter with a diss so powerful they were named for it.

 

On a more serious note there are so many chapters and so many units now that there's bound to be overlap

[Alternis]

Are we sure the name isn’t Executor

[Marshal Reinhard]

Would prolly still overlap with both units and chapter names

[Marshal Rohr]

19 hours ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

It's also the way of the Templars to dismantle the foe through sheer force of verbal disdain

“What are we supposed to use? Harsh language?”

 

”yes”

[TheVoidDragon]

That codex cover art is quite bad.

That Marine in the middle looks like he has shoulder pads that are so big they'd be going all the way down to his waist. 

[01RTB01]

4 hours ago, Alternis said:

Are we sure the name isn’t Executor

 

Isn't that the chap who's responsible for dealing with handling the estate upon death?...

 

Brother, I present you with your brother's favoured bolter and chainsword. He wishes that you have them for smiting thy foes forevermore.

[kabaakaba]

What's wrong with pal in middle of cover art? Virtually it's normal sized head but there for rare occasion they draw space marine armor properly and show how large it is. There is issue with accents on art cause for some reason focus on acolyte guy in front. 

[Marshal Rohr]

7 hours ago, 01RTB01 said:

 

Isn't that the chap who's responsible for dealing with handling the estate upon death?...

 

Brother, I present you with your brother's favoured bolter and chainsword. He wishes that you have them for smiting thy foes forevermore.

It’s actually Darth Vader’s flagship. The model will be a 32mm Super Star Destroyer

[Dorn of War]

Well, I was wrong. They’ve only gone and called it an Execrator!!!

 

 

[Lord Marshal]

And the rules teases have begun.

[Vassakov]

No Oath for Templars seems like a pretty big sidegrade at best. 

[jaxom]

7 minutes ago, Vassakov said:

No Oath for Templars seems like a pretty big sidegrade at best. 

For casual play, I think it depends on what strats are available. Suffer Not the Unclean allows for a lot of movement jankiness and that can be valuable for tournament players.

[DemonGSides]

Choices are always better than no choices, and there's plenty of hit Re-roll found scattered throughout the SM force that I think most of the Templar Vows are just straight up better than re-roll to hit when targeting a single unit each turn.

 

Sticky obj one also allowing Advance and Action is I think a sleeper hit.  Accept Any Challenge is good in the army with how much melee threats there are and gives them a target into bigger things; S8 powerfists with +1 to wound are pretty gnarly into basically everything.

 

Cool changes.  Makes me wish all the supplementary SM got updated army rules.

Edited July 21 by DemonGSides

[Blindhamster]

Interesting they don’t get sternguard. 

8 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

Choices are always better than no choices, and there's plenty of hit Re-roll found scattered throughout the SM force that I think most of the Templar Vows are just straight up better than re-roll to hit when targeting a single unit each turn.

 

Sticky obj one also allowing Advance and Action is I think a sleeper hit.  Accept Any Challenge is good in the army with how much melee threats there are and gives them a target into bigger things; S8 powerfists with +1 to wound are pretty gnarly into basically everything.

 

Cool changes.  Makes me wish all the supplementary SM got updated army rules.

I’ve always said blood angels red thirst should have been the army rule instead of oath of moment.

[Marshal Reinhard]

4 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

Choices are always better than no choices, and there's plenty of hit Re-roll found scattered throughout the SM force that I think most of the Templar Vows are just straight up better than re-roll to hit when targeting a single unit each turn.

 

Sticky obj one also allowing Advance and Action is I think a sleeper hit.  Accept Any Challenge is good in the army with how much melee threats there are and gives them a target into bigger things; S8 powerfists with +1 to wound are pretty gnarly into basically everything.

 

Cool changes.  Makes me wish all the supplementary SM got updated army rules.

The +1 to wound on the powerfists would only activate againsts target with toughness 8 or greater. Of course you can argue against low toughness targets, the S8 is already gnarly.

 

Still, I think the effect might be more keenly felt with mass number of lower strength attacks, like the chainswords on a 20 man crusader squad, vs equal or higher toughness opponents.