Necromunda Palanite Companions

[DemonGSides]

Necromunda always just felt like the entire universe of 40k, but in microcosm, so it's not too surprising to see disintegrators and other esoteric type weaponry showing up.

It's always been a weird place for weird stuff.

[1ncarnadine]

4 hours ago, StrangerOrders said:

These guys aren't Helmawr's guards, they are guards and lifewards for enforcers still down in the ranks enough to be in a gang scuffle. Crest or not, you don't matter that much if your boss can still order you to go fight the lunatics with with candle-rats.

Going off what's on Lexicanum, which I'm pretty sure is straight from the Aranthian Succession:

 

 

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They undergo extensive psycho-conditioning to ensure their sole purpose is to protect those of Helmawr blood or individuals deemed important by House nobility.

 

Emphasis mine. Also worth pointing out these are basically disintegrator pistols vs what the Astartes might have deployed in the Great Crusade/Heresy.

 

It is a theme of Necromunda (and the Warhammer Crimes series, for that matter) that select, highly privileged and powerful families of major hive worlds have access to archeotech they probably shouldn't, by way of pilfering, blackmailing and bribing their way into accessing troves of stuff like this. They might even hire gangs to retrieve mysterious boxes that may have something like a disintegrator or two in them. Ain't none of this going to the Astra Militarum, that's for sure, and it's not necessarily reliable enough to survive long in the high intensity warfare that Astartes are known for. Also, Helmawr's personal retinue was supposedly made up of these guys. Even the WarCom article makes multiple references to guarding nobility, not low-rank enforcers. And if nobility does want to get into a hive scuffle, that's their business. Sometimes they do it because they're just bored. Like the Emperor Commodus putting on lion furs and going around beating commoners while imagining he's inherited the power of Hercules.

[Captain Idaho]

2 hours ago, torcathmk2 said:

People acting like the various branches of law enforcement haven't always rocked the long coat over armour, matched with a massive hat. Its probably just a tradition at this point
 

 

Hey judge Dredd can wear what he likes because he invented cool. You leave Dredd alone!

 

[StrangerOrders]

1 hour ago, 1ncarnadine said:

Going off what's on Lexicanum, which I'm pretty sure is straight from the Aranthian Succession:

 

 

 

Emphasis mine. Also worth pointing out these are basically disintegrator pistols vs what the Astartes might have deployed in the Great Crusade/Heresy.

 

It is a theme of Necromunda (and the Warhammer Crimes series, for that matter) that select, highly privileged and powerful families of major hive worlds have access to archeotech they probably shouldn't, by way of pilfering, blackmailing and bribing their way into accessing troves of stuff like this. They might even hire gangs to retrieve mysterious boxes that may have something like a disintegrator or two in them. Ain't none of this going to the Astra Militarum, that's for sure, and it's not necessarily reliable enough to survive long in the high intensity warfare that Astartes are known for. Also, Helmawr's personal retinue was supposedly made up of these guys. Even the WarCom article makes multiple references to guarding nobility, not low-rank enforcers. And if nobility does want to get into a hive scuffle, that's their business. Sometimes they do it because they're just bored. Like the Emperor Commodus putting on lion furs and going around beating commoners while imagining he's inherited the power of Hercules.

I personally read Disintegrators as being somewhat powerful and this is my first exposure to the idea that Imperial Nobles (to my understand Necromunda is notable but isn't meant to be the supreme Hiveworld of the Imperium that eclispses all others and is the 30k DA of Hiveworlds) are better and more reliably resourced than Astartes. My previous understanding was that it was just exceedingly unlucky but meant to be representative and certainly not so wealthy/advanced to outgun Astartes. If Necromunda is anywhere near the norm in terms of tech access then I do see this as silly even by 40k standards.

 

Disintegrators have been around for about a decade and gradually become more common, but as of yet, we have no trace of anyone else in 40k having them outside Necromunda. Its one thing if that changes.

 

And 2.0 and the Warcom articles for 3.0 have, to my reading, have not made Disintegrators sound undesirable nor anymore dangerous than Plasma (Just more irksome to the Mechanicum). Given that Hellblasters don't suggest to me Marines have suddenly become precious about the risk-reward of dangerous weapons. So I see that as a somewhat poor narrative.

 

Then again, given the dozen or so dislikes my dissent has earned me on this topic, I'm going to go ahead and agree with the concensus before Helmawr enforcers show up at my door. 

 

But, as a glutton for punishment, I will stand by disagreeing with GW refusing to leave an arcane and lost technology both arcane and lost.

Edited July 14 by StrangerOrders

[Indy Techwisp]

1 hour ago, StrangerOrders said:

But, as a glutton for punishment, I will stand by disagreeing with GW refusing to leave an arcane and lost technology both arcane and lost.

 

Disintegration Technology wasn't lost, per se, just unfeasible to field at Legion level and too dangerous handing out to the mass produced supersoldiers who are starting to look like they're unhappy about their current situation.

 

Necromunda also just kinda... has this stuff?

The Spyrers also have Disintegration tech and who's to say the Imperial Fists didn't just dump their stock of Disintergrators on House Helmwar's doorstep after Big E said they couldn't use them anymore.

[beefeb]

Crests look ridiculous...otherwise great.  I can understand why Necromunda gets stuff thats rare or outlawed in the rest of the IoM, with a semi functional STC system and ancient tech recovered from the underhive or ash wastes ruins.  As an earlier poster said, necromunda is a microcosm of its own really.....its barely even set in the same world as 40K.