Black Library The Scouring Series Announced - Ashes of the Imperium (Chris Wraight)

[roryokane]

5 minutes ago, Nephaston said:

 

It's probably gonna be an argument about recuperating and planning vs hunting each and every traitor down and putting their heads on a pike.

To be fair, Guilliman’s argument of “I lost over a third of my legion between fighting the Word Bearers and then fighting to get here, and I STILL have more troops and ships than the rest of you put together” is likely a telling one. 

[Karhedron]

3 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

I feel like as the primarchs disappear from the story lines a lot of interest in the series will be lost.

 

I think that the disappearances of the Primarchs is going to be something the series will cover. The studio mentioned that Guilliman was chosen at the first Primarch to return because it was already known where he was. There was not mystery to resolve for him to reappear. I suspect that Lion el Johnson was chosen for a similar reason.

 

The remaining loyalists disappeared under various mysterious circumstances. My guess is GW will use these disappearance novels to plant the plot hooks for their return to 40K.

[grailkeeper]

21 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

 

I think that the disappearances of the Primarchs is going to be something the series will cover. The studio mentioned that Guilliman was chosen at the first Primarch to return because it was already known where he was. There was not mystery to resolve for him to reappear. I suspect that Lion el Johnson was chosen for a similar reason.

 

The remaining loyalists disappeared under various mysterious circumstances. My guess is GW will use these disappearance novels to plant the plot hooks for their return to 40K.

 

 

Some we know exactly how they disappeared, others we dont. One up side of the beast arises is that we know Vulkan was one of the last to go, and it was long after the scouring. 

Hopefully we either have very little Vulkan, or if we must have Salamanders, a different author will be given a chance to write them. 

[Iron Lord]

Didn't Vulkan disappear for a long period between the Scouring and The Beast Arises though?

[Marshal Rohr]

5 hours ago, Karhedron said:

 

I think that the disappearances of the Primarchs is going to be something the series will cover. The studio mentioned that Guilliman was chosen at the first Primarch to return because it was already known where he was. There was not mystery to resolve for him to reappear. I suspect that Lion el Johnson was chosen for a similar reason.

 

The remaining loyalists disappeared under various mysterious circumstances. My guess is GW will use these disappearance novels to plant the plot hooks for their return to 40K.

Prophetic. Disgusting they’re doing this but exceptionally insightful. 

[Lord Blackwood]

I am personally very excited for this. After The End and the Death Vol 3  I have felt a little empty as far as Warhammer goes  the HH and Siege of Terra novels were  driving factors in my participation with the hobby.  I am not bothered by Primarchs in 40k so this series potentially setting up returns for them would be interesting.  I imagine we might also see some of the Cawl stuff bridged as well which will be interesting. There are plenty of sub plots that were not tied up in Era of Ruin , so I am hopeful for a host of new audiobooks to enjoy listening to. 

[Nineswords]

On 7/18/2025 at 10:19 PM, Son of Rawl said:

That's an amazing piece of art. Gonna be a day one, but skipping any LE's for this series. Been burned far too many times to consider it.

 

 

Came here to say this. It was absolutely not worth the heartache and stress for the LE’s and I won’t ever buy those again. 
 

GW have had multiple chances to fix this and have missed a very obvious solution which satisfies collectors and denies the scalpers.

 

On a more positive note, now I’ve got a year to finish the Siege so I can pick this up fresh. 

[Nineswords]

On 7/18/2025 at 10:36 PM, Inquisitor lorr said:

May I ask what you mean by this? (Just started the Horus Heresy series, so I’m intrigued). 

I think GW underestimated the popularity of the Heresy as a setting. The perfect storm of Foreworld’s early source books and resin minis fuelled a strong appetite for the Heresy books which Black Library… just kept going with. 
 

if anyone had really known how many numbered novels (and unnumbered novellas) there were going to be in the lead up to the Siege of Terra, I think many of us would’ve thought twice about going all in on the collector’s books. 
 

When the Siege LE’s came out, demand was so high professional scalper rings got in on the action and ruined the buying experience for everyone. I and many other collectors hope there’s not a repeat for The Scouring, another series with no planned end in sight; and no climactic battle to work towards to. 

[Armchair Warlord]

On 7/18/2025 at 8:55 PM, Borbarad said:

Get ready to dust off your first born marines for warhammer 40k - the old world

Already got it on the shelf mate!....7th edition.

[Astartes Consul]

Echoing the general positive reception to Wraight kicking this off - he’s got a particular knack for writing both non-Space Marine characters and Imperial political intrigue. So an excellent choice IMO.

 

I wonder who else they have lined up. The stable of writers who did the best Heresy books (imo) is a bit depleted these days. 
 

Other than some better editing and forward planning, my main hope for this series would be that they don’t feel the need to pursue every single leftover plot point from the HH/SoT. Leave some things open to interpretation and our imaginations! Save the big moments and new lore for some new characters! 

[LemartesTheLost]

On 7/19/2025 at 2:36 PM, Karhedron said:

 

I think that the disappearances of the Primarchs is going to be something the series will cover. The studio mentioned that Guilliman was chosen at the first Primarch to return because it was already known where he was. There was not mystery to resolve for him to reappear. I suspect that Lion el Johnson was chosen for a similar reason.

 

The remaining loyalists disappeared under various mysterious circumstances. My guess is GW will use these disappearance novels to plant the plot hooks for their return to 40K.

 

I hate that you're right with every fiber of my being.

[ZeroWolf]

5 minutes ago, LemartesTheLost said:

 

I hate that you're right with every fiber of my being.

To be fair, they've already been working on that. The most famous example being Dorn. Went from a fully recovered body to just being a hand. That change happened at least well over a decade ago...if not longer.

[LemartesTheLost]

On 7/19/2025 at 12:48 AM, Fire Golem said:

You don’t have to read it. 

 

No but the events of the novels will be mentioned ad nauseam in Youtube lore/painting tutorial videos because "Muh Primarchs!!" so we're getting the mysticism stripped anyway. 

[gideon stargreave]

17 hours ago, LemartesTheLost said:

 

No but the events of the novels will be mentioned ad nauseam in Youtube lore/painting tutorial videos because "Muh Primarchs!!" so we're getting the mysticism stripped anyway. 

And the ability for longbeards like me and you to creatively explore the corners of the setting will be reduced because “this new book says…” 

[Antarius]

3 hours ago, gideon stargreave said:

And the ability for longbeards like me and you to creatively explore the corners of the setting will be reduced because “this new book says…” 

I think it is important to keep hold of the notion that you have a right (so to speak) to your own headcanon. I don't enjoy the advancement of the timeline/the storyline approach to 40K and I dislike (most of) the ways they have resolved the many mysteries and storyhooks that were present in the setting pre-Gathering Storm, so I simply discount them. In a similar vein, I have absolutely zero qualms about deciding that some event played out in this or that manner or that this or that character said or did this or that thing, because my 40K hobby is my own - and people will obviously never agree on one interpretation anyway.

I have, generally speaking, enjoyed most of the HH series. Yes, there were a few clunkers and yeah, the series got dragged out and stretched way too thin, but even the actual stinkers such as "Fear to Tread" were easy enough for me to discount as "something some author (who was probably hepped up on goofballs at the time) might have thought happened", so in that sense, I'm not too worried about how they'll handle The Scouring, although I'm sure they'll do things I'll disagree with over the course of the 117ish books they'll probably drag it out over 

Edited Tuesday at 01:29 PM by Antarius