40k First Founding Champions + Combat Patrols

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

As someone who knows very little about the iron hands my perception of them has always been heavy armor brute force attacks, and defense. 
 

I’ve never viewed them as duelists, or as favoring highly refined and intricate tactics and strategies.

 

so to me a big ‘smash ‘em up techno-club’ seems very appropriate to me.

Edited Tuesday at 11:28 PM by Inquisitor_Lensoven

[Rhavien]

Have to say I don't like Vulkan Hestaan's flamerfist design. It's basically the same as before, but I think it's a missed opportunity. He can only throw backhands around, otherwise he would just trash the nozzle. It also doesn't look retractable.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

4 hours ago, Rhavien said:

Have to say I don't like Vulkan Hestaan's flamerfist design. It's basically the same as before, but I think it's a missed opportunity. He can only throw backhands around, otherwise he would just trash the nozzle. It also doesn't look retractable.

Yeah I was never a fan of that design myself, but when you have a flamethrower on your hand, you don’t really need to be punching people with that hand.

 

if you’re out of fuel doesn’t matter much if you damage the nozzle.

[Nephaston]

It's also not a melee weapon at all. He'stan can only use the spear in melee.

[Brother Tyler]

For those who wish to pursue the discussion about the thematic influences on the Iron Hands and whether or not Caanok Var's club/maul is appropriate to that theme, I've created this discussion in the + ADEPTUS ASTARTES + forum so that we don't disrupt this discussion further.

[beefeb]

Khan is amazing, hestan and Lysander too.  Iron hands is fantastic.  Im going to go against the general trend here over the Raven Guard though....I think its awful.  Far too busy, and while the mk6 style head is excellent...the other two are awful...particularly emo-crow!  

[Larkhainan]

1 hour ago, beefeb said:

Khan is amazing, hestan and Lysander too.  Iron hands is fantastic.  Im going to go against the general trend here over the Raven Guard though....I think its awful.  Far too busy, and while the mk6 style head is excellent...the other two are awful...particularly emo-crow!  

RG is wild for people either loving it or hating it, I don't think you're against the grain at all.

 

I gotta say for five space marine characters they all get wildly different reactions and that is in my mind a sign they actually managed to distinguish them a lot.

[LSM]

With the Raven Guard, I wonder if it's a result of people strongly liking one of their two themes over the other.

 

Y'know: the "tactical precision", sneaky, guerilla warfare specialists, versus the Emo, "Nevermore", our-unstable-geneseed-turns-us-goth motifs.

 

Shaan definitely leans into the latter.