irlLordy Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 Guard have two different types of horse mounted units, so I don't think its impossible that marines would get bikes and jetbikes. I imagine they'll do something similar to guard where the jetbikes get a scout move and better shooting, while the bikes get better melee. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6126374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted August 5 Share Posted August 5 We are going to end up with techmarines on wheel bikes but captains on jetbikes arent we? Orange Knight and Emperor Ming 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6126472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 (edited) From the Salamanders Combat Patrol description: "The Assault Intercessors can build an optional sergeant, who can be armed with a heavy bolt pistol, inferno pistol, or plasma pistol..." I realize GW is always the last to know about their own product, but maybe someone nicer than me can let them know that a Hand Flamer is not an "Inferno Pistol." I mean, it's not like the Assault Intercessor squad kit has been out for almost five years OR that we just had a big Blood Angels refresh with multiple examples of what an Inferno Pistol actually is... Edited August 9 by Lord Nord in Gravis Armour CastellanDeMolay 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6127152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 It is pretty funny that the giant flamethrower unit is called infernus but the flamethrower pistol isn't named infern-anything. In the grand scheme of foibles, that's a small one. FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6127167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted Tuesday at 11:27 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:27 AM In fairness the inferno Pistol could get a name change as it doesn't quite match the naming conventions of other weapons... LSM 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6127551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alternis Posted Tuesday at 12:55 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:55 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Orange Knight said: In fairness the inferno Pistol could get a name change as it doesn't quite match the naming conventions of other weapons... As a BA main, you leave our inferno pistols alone. we’ve taken far too many L’s this edition already, don’t give GW any ideas Edited Tuesday at 12:56 PM by Alternis Typo correction skylerboodie and painting.for.my.sanity 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6127559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted Tuesday at 12:57 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:57 PM 1 minute ago, Alternis said: As a BA main, you leave our inferno pistols alone. we’ve taken far too many L’s this edition already, don’t give GW any ideas I wouldn't care if the name changed, really, as long as we still had melta pistols I'm still a fan. Eradicator Pistol does sound pretty cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6127561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted Tuesday at 01:03 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:03 PM Just now, DemonGSides said: I wouldn't care if the name changed, really, as long as we still had melta pistols I'm still a fan. Eradicator Pistol does sound pretty cool. Yeah it absolutely should keep it's profile as is. I just mean that "inferno" elicits the mental image of a flame, not a melta weapon. Melta has words like "fusion" or "magna" associated with it. The inferno pistol is actually an oddity in naming convention. LSM and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6127562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted Tuesday at 02:05 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:05 PM 1 hour ago, Orange Knight said: Melta has words like "fusion" or "magna" associated with it. The inferno pistol is actually an oddity in naming convention. I seem to recall that it was originally unique to Dante and is of course a reference to Dante's Inferno. Then it got made more generic and Dante's was renamed as the Perdition pistol to represent its unique nature. Rhavien, skylerboodie, Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla and 2 others 3 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6127571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSM Posted Tuesday at 02:41 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:41 PM 35 minutes ago, Karhedron said: I seem to recall that it was originally unique to Dante and is of course a reference to Dante's Inferno. Then it got made more generic and Dante's was renamed as the Perdition pistol to represent its unique nature. Yeah. I'd assume that "Dante's Inferno Pistol" was a cute little joke that got lost at some point. Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla, painting.for.my.sanity, Blindhamster and 4 others 1 5 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6127576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted Tuesday at 02:52 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:52 PM (edited) 3 hours ago, Orange Knight said: In fairness the inferno Pistol could get a name change as it doesn't quite match the naming conventions of other weapons... 'Guilliman's Ronson'? Edited Tuesday at 02:54 PM by Mazer Rackham Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6127579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted Tuesday at 03:43 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:43 PM 1 hour ago, LSM said: Yeah. I'd assume that "Dante's Inferno Pistol" was a cute little joke that got lost at some point. Yeah that's awesome. "Dante's Inferno pistol" is a great name for a bespoke weapon belonging to a chapter master. But the generic variants probably should just be called Melta pistols. Laurence and LSM 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6127589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadGreek Posted Thursday at 03:00 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:00 AM Maybe I'm crazy, but I would SWEAR it used to be called the inferNUS pistol when I started with BA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6127796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted Thursday at 01:47 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:47 PM Every time I see "Inferno Pistol" I have to remind myself that it's the Melta Pistol and not the T-Sons AP-Bolter Sidearm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6127851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted Thursday at 02:28 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:28 PM 11 hours ago, MadGreek said: Maybe I'm crazy, but I would SWEAR it used to be called the inferNUS pistol when I started with BA. It was called the Inferno Pistol in 2nd edition when Dante first came out but it might have been Infernus in one of the intermediate editions. Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6127872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla Posted Thursday at 03:04 PM Share Posted Thursday at 03:04 PM 25 minutes ago, Karhedron said: It was called the Inferno Pistol in 2nd edition when Dante first came out but it might have been Infernus in one of the intermediate editions. In 4th it became "perdition pistol" (you know, the edition they came up with the brilliant idea of a WD codex), Matt Ward tried to correct it in 5th but the best he could do was "infernus pistol" and finally in 7th we returned to "inferno pistol". MadGreek and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6127881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadGreek Posted Friday at 03:36 PM Share Posted Friday at 03:36 PM On 8/14/2025 at 8:04 AM, Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla said: In 4th it became "perdition pistol" (you know, the edition they came up with the brilliant idea of a WD codex), Matt Ward tried to correct it in 5th but the best he could do was "infernus pistol" and finally in 7th we returned to "inferno pistol". Yeah, my intro to BA was the PDF Codex (was that 5th?), and I was sure it was Infernus. Only because I remember being surprised when it became "Inferno." I never thought either name was great for a Melta pistol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6128178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastellanDeMolay Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 19 hours ago, MadGreek said: Yeah, my intro to BA was the PDF Codex (was that 5th?), and I was sure it was Infernus. Only because I remember being surprised when it became "Inferno." I never thought either name was great for a Melta pistol. I've just checked my copy of the paperback Codex BA got in 5th, and both Dante's and the generic version are called Infernus Pistol. By the time their 7th edition Codex went to the printers it was changed to Inferno Pistol. According to the archived version here: https://i.4pcdn.org/tg/1643573489825.pdf BA 4th edition Codex published in WD, showed Dante's pistol as Perdition, and there was no generic Melta Pistol available to them. skylerboodie and MadGreek 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6128265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylerboodie Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, CastellanDeMolay said: [...] According to the archived version here: https://i.4pcdn.org/tg/1643573489825.pdf BA 4th edition Codex published in WD, [...] Thanks for this! is there a link for other such digital codexes from this era that never got their own separate release available please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386297-first-founding-champions-combat-patrols/page/8/#findComment-6128282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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