Kill Team Kill Team: Tomb World (Primaris Deathwatch vs Canoptek Circle)

[Blindhamster]

Yeah they’ll come, but not for a couple months 

[Urauloth]

I swear we're 18 months away from the Saturnine price being the default for starters, launches and FOMO boxes. Cool terrain though. Very nice.

[Ace Debonair]

It's live for pre-order now brothers, may the Emperor bless your efforts to get it 

[Not An Ork]

It’s a glorious set, but the £155 put it on the other side of the line where my brain can let me impulse buy it. And as soon as the rational discussion about the purchase kicked off in my mind, it was never going to happen….

[Cleon]

Hopefully the set of 'non player operatives' ramping up the box price won't be a recurring feature and is a 'new feature' add on with future sets returning to closer to previous prices.

[MoriyaSchism]

Eye-watering price, I slept in and missed all of the discounted preorders. Going to let this one slip by me. I can't justify this one. 

[Valkyrion]

Whose Side Are You On? asked games workshop in an e-mail this morning.

It appears the answer is 'my wallet'. 

[Redcomet]

I earn a decent wage, and have the funds. But I just can’t get myself to buy as many of these boxed sets, as I used to. The price has hit the levels where I need to weigh it in my mind, and by the time I make up my mind, it is often sold out.

 

[ZeroWolf]

11 hours ago, Urauloth said:

I swear we're 18 months away from the Saturnine price being the default for starters, launches and FOMO boxes. Cool terrain though. Very nice.

Wait till the 40k box is £160 (or higher!) next year 

[Lord Marshal]

As the kids say on the internet: "Bruh." I did not expect even the GW site to have sold out within an hour and a half.

 

Maybe they underproduced due to Hivestorm taking a long time to sell out?

[Blindhamster]

I made the decision I’d rather wait for the individual kill team

[Toxichobbit]

56 minutes ago, Cleon said:

Hopefully the set of 'non player operatives' ramping up the box price won't be a recurring feature and is a 'new feature' add on with future sets returning to closer to previous prices.

 

This will continue until the community stops supporting these practices. And the community will unfortunately continue to support these practices until all the people with disposable income and poor impulse buying control are priced out. It's only going to get worse.

Edited Saturday at 10:41 AM by Toxichobbit

[lansalt]

I love too much DW and necrons, so I finally tried to order it through my LGS, but they told me GW only reserved a few boxes for them and they were all taken.

So I tried GW's site, and after begrudingly paying the full MSRP, my order doesn't appear at all. My bank has processed the payment but there's nothing in my GW account, and now the box is out of stock 

 

I guess it doesn't matter what the community does, scalpers alone make line go up for GW, so they don't have any motivation to make things better for regular buyers.

[Neil H]

Ordered the set and the latest BL limited book from my local store, which also happened to be the stores Anniversary day so ended up with gaming goodies that I don't need (apart from the dice cup which I will use for brush/tools storage) and 3 coins, so can get some return on those!  Noticed the third part sellers sold out PDQ!

 

Neil

[Redcomet]

4 minutes ago, lansalt said:

I love too much DW and necrons, so I finally tried to order it through my LGS, but they told me GW only reserved a few boxes for them and they were all taken.

So I tried GW's site, and after begrudingly paying the full MSRP, my order doesn't appear at all. My bank has processed the payment but there's nothing in my GW account, and now the box is out of stock 

 

I guess it doesn't matter what the community does, scalpers alone make line go up for GW, so they don't have any motivation to make things better for regular buyers.

My FLGS got 1 set! 1.

 

might as well not have bothered 

[ZeroWolf]

13 minutes ago, Redcomet said:

My FLGS got 1 set! 1.

 

might as well not have bothered 

Makes you wonder how they decide allocations. Darts? Or do they roll a d6 for each store.

[firestorm40k]

I managed to order through one of the FLGS near me, I got in early on their waiting list as soon as they announced it last Sunday evening. Just as well I did, apparently they had more people putting their name down on the waiting list than the store actually had copies allocated to them by GW 

 

And if we think this pre-order was a nightmare, the one that's going to have the Nighbringer will be an absolute blood bath 

[Cleon]

1 hour ago, Toxichobbit said:

 

This will continue until the community stops supporting these practices. And the community will unfortunately continue to support these practices until all the people with disposable income and poor impulse buying control are priced out. It's only going to get worse.

That's completely not my point though. I realise prices are only on an upward trajectory, but there are two prices here:

1 - Price point 'a' two kill teams, a terrain set & Kill team rules

2 - Price point 'b' two kill teams, a terrain set, Kill team rules AND a set of 'non player operative mooks.

The GW income/profit add on for price point b over a for a box with more in it on a tiny production run is almost irrelevant to them.

 

I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that while price point 'a' will always increase over time, we will go back to it and boxes without the non player operative squad, which may have been a one off at the start of this season to make the terrain's 'generate Necrons' rules work, or to prompt kill team players without 40k armies to try the player v board rules.

 

In reality I see three options.

1 - it's a one off due to introducing the game mode and the terrain

2 - 'non player' is the theme of this season, all three boxes of this season contain 'something Necron' (I'd expect maybe something theme appropriate like a spyder next if so)

3 - It's the new standard and each season will have an enemy set with each box adding a unit from that army in the hope to launch 'buy all sets' Kill team players into that faction for 40k (this is a stupid plan if you don't actually make enough of the box for those players).

 

I'm hoping for option 1, if not that then option 2 as I like to pick up Kill team sets where one option I really like and the second fits an existing collection even if not inspiring (I maybe try to buy one in four, succeed two out of those three).

[crimsondave]

I was awake so I watched Wargame Portal at midnight out of curiosity and the box sold out in 10 seconds.  No exaggeration.

[Jukkiz]

this might be offtopic, BUT?!

Is it better for the game itself to GW keep making fomo boxes instead of mkaing the box available with separate killteams arriving like month later for purchase? 

[darkhorse0607]

1 hour ago, Jukkiz said:

Is it better for the game itself to GW keep making fomo boxes instead of mkaing the box available with separate killteams arriving like month later for purchase? 

 

I mean, GW will continue to double dip on releases (big box one day, then getting more out of the sprues with the later individual release which typically sell out or sell very well) until people stop buying them, regardless if it's good for the game or not

 

On the other topic, I've been waiting for a refreshed Deathwatch kit for a long time and am really excited about these, but $250 is just too much honestly. I do wonder if this will even out eventually where they have a harder time selling these massive boxes, but 5-6 years of this tactic continually working for them makes me think no

[Toxichobbit]

2 hours ago, Cleon said:

That's completely not my point though. I realise prices are only on an upward trajectory, but there are two prices here:

1 - Price point 'a' two kill teams, a terrain set & Kill team rules

2 - Price point 'b' two kill teams, a terrain set, Kill team rules AND a set of 'non player operative mooks.

The GW income/profit add on for price point b over a for a box with more in it on a tiny production run is almost irrelevant to them.

 

I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that while price point 'a' will always increase over time, we will go back to it and boxes without the non player operative squad, which may have been a one off at the start of this season to make the terrain's 'generate Necrons' rules work, or to prompt kill team players without 40k armies to try the player v board rules.

 

In reality I see three options.

1 - it's a one off due to introducing the game mode and the terrain

2 - 'non player' is the theme of this season, all three boxes of this season contain 'something Necron' (I'd expect maybe something theme appropriate like a spyder next if so)

3 - It's the new standard and each season will have an enemy set with each box adding a unit from that army in the hope to launch 'buy all sets' Kill team players into that faction for 40k (this is a stupid plan if you don't actually make enough of the box for those players).

 

I'm hoping for option 1, if not that then option 2 as I like to pick up Kill team sets where one option I really like and the second fits an existing collection even if not inspiring (I maybe try to buy one in four, succeed two out of those three).

 

Ah, I see what you mean. The " " around operatives made me think you were referring to scalpers. I don't play Kill Team so I forgot GW called the models in it operatives.

Edited Saturday at 02:40 PM by Toxichobbit

[Rusted Boltgun]

KT offerings returning to earlier FOMO stock levels, it seems. Element's email that they were only offering the box in-store was not a good sign.

I've stepped off the Kill Team train having been on it since Octarius so whilst I'm not feeling the disappointment of others, I'm sorry that KT enthusiasts might have lost out on what looks like a great box - both setting and teams. 

[Nova-V]

Seemed to hang around longer than seconds in the UK but still a short window.  I checked at about 10 30, GW still had it as did a smattering of Independants (none of the big names).  So still limited if you couldn't get on at 10 but not quite gone before you have even entered your payment details.

 

Sad to see this limiting pattern return to KT it was the trouble getting Season 2 of KT21 that killed my interest in the game at that time. 

[fudblinker]

Such bull:cuss: with the eBay preorder bots. In the time it took me to add the set to my cart and click on PayPal to check out it sold out.