Horus Heresy Horus Heresy Combat Force Boxes

[01RTB01]

40 minutes ago, twopounder said:

This isn't about providing a discount on something you need, its about moving inventory. The 2.0 box sold like crazy, so nobody is buying the separate mk6 boxes, especially with MK2 released. Rhinos are another thing that didn't move much, considering they were easy to pop and only carried 10 models. The leviathan is an interesting choice, but a powerful entry as an ally for sure. I think ad mech is the best value for someone just getting started or building a new army. Could easily snag two of those and then a magos to make a solid beginner army. Solar is weakest due to leman russ getting nerfed and needing a lot more infantry. Seems like they would have been better with two cohorts, command, and a leman russ (or ogryns). But again, its about moving models. 

 

There's a lot of assumption in here. I really don't like mkii and will be quicker to buy more mkvi than mkii. I won't be the only one. How do you know that rhinos didn't sell? Looking at events and people's army building they seem quite common place. You just seem to be asserting your opinion as fact without any actual evidence. 

[twopounder]

22 minutes ago, 01RTB01 said:

 

There's a lot of assumption in here. I really don't like mkii and will be quicker to buy more mkvi than mkii. I won't be the only one. How do you know that rhinos didn't sell? Looking at events and people's army building they seem quite common place. You just seem to be asserting your opinion as fact without any actual evidence. 

 

In 3rd/4th it was common to see 6 rhinos on a table. It even carried into 5th, though drop pod assault + Sternguard made drop pods the new transport spam. I haven't seen a heresy army with more than 2. But hey, I forgot 6 is less than 2 whenever we have to defend GWs honor. 

[Doobles57]

22 minutes ago, twopounder said:

 

In 3rd/4th it was common to see 6 rhinos on a table. It even carried into 5th, though drop pod assault + Sternguard made drop pods the new transport spam. I haven't seen a heresy army with more than 2. But hey, I forgot 6 is less than 2 whenever we have to defend GWs honor. 

I think there's probably a middle ground between "not selling" and "every player buying at least 6 as was popular during the Rhino Rush era 20+ years ago". Not sure that requires defending anyone's honour?

[Vassakov]

27 minutes ago, twopounder said:

 

In 3rd/4th it was common to see 6 rhinos on a table. It even carried into 5th, though drop pod assault + Sternguard made drop pods the new transport spam. I haven't seen a heresy army with more than 2. But hey, I forgot 6 is less than 2 whenever we have to defend GWs honor. 

 

You're comparing two different gaming systems...?

[Lord Marshal]

I think MkVI being present is less about moving stock and more that it's by far the simplest mark of power armour for Lil Timmy to paint up, which is important when it's a game that thematically and mechanically wants you to push lots of Tacticals and Despoilers up the board.

 

By comparison, NuMkIII is trim hell and MkII is obviously in the Saturnine box already.

[01RTB01]

59 minutes ago, twopounder said:

 

In 3rd/4th it was common to see 6 rhinos on a table. It even carried into 5th, though drop pod assault + Sternguard made drop pods the new transport spam. I haven't seen a heresy army with more than 2. But hey, I forgot 6 is less than 2 whenever we have to defend GWs honor. 

40k isn't heresy. Mars pattern rhinos aren't Deimos pattern. You're comparing different systems and there's around a 20 year gap here to add in. 

 

I shall kneel to the lady and hope honour is intact for all. 

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

I hope this is not a FOMO release and will stick around for a couple of months at least.

[Mogger351]

19 minutes ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

I hope this is not a FOMO release and will stick around for a couple of months at least.

It reads like a combat patrol, so should be an evergreen product.

[jaxom]

9 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

It reads like a combat patrol, so should be an evergreen product.

I agree. I think the only reason there isn’t an HQ in each is because GW doesn’t have plastic HQs readily available as single sprues for everyone (and please correct me if I’m wrong).

[ZeroWolf]

A quick post to point out that GW produce new sprues for boxes like these as its cheaper then paying staff to rebox them. Especially when its likely they'll have uneven stock levels, requiring them to print more anyway.

 

As for the boxes, they seem pretty good but it will come down to costs and if they'll be sticking around or not.

[Wibbling]

I like this idea. It'd be nice to see MK II and III along with a sort of 'theme'. Having a MK6/2 assault squad with jetbikes/landspeeders would be very cool. Lets you build a thematic army in blobs. 

 

Maybe they'll sell 'detachment' style boxes? Ah, here's the Solar Auxillia tank detachment with 4 Leman Russ'/Predators+vindicators/The Mechanicum ank whose name I have forgotten.

[Marshal Mittens]

The Admech kit had almost everything I like, and it has nothing I don't. 3 of them seem like a great basis for an army. 

[Vogon]

If I were to get one, and I might if they stick around, it will be the Mechanicum one.

That's the army I'd be most interested in starting next but not for a while. 

Cheers

 

Vogon 

[No Foes Remain]

1 hour ago, jaxom said:

I agree. I think the only reason there isn’t an HQ in each is because GW doesn’t have plastic HQs readily available as single sprues for everyone (and please correct me if I’m wrong).

No, kin, you are correct, however they do have a command sprue which would have been cool to include instead of the HB/ML sprue. Maybe with a single sprue from the special weapons kit. That way you'd get a Centurion + 4 man command squad (or Optae and chuck the other four in one of the other squads), Tactical squad, Tactical Support Squad, Rhino and a Leviathan.

Edited Monday at 08:49 PM by No Foes Remain

[Interrogator Stobz]

Has anyone calculated savings yet? Or is it still in assumption land?

 

I'm keen on starting a Mechanicum force as a noob to HH. And I don't imagine I will play much as it's not a thing where I live.

I'm currently working on some Cerastus and a Reaver, and I was thinking Mech gribblies will look the absolute business lurking around their feet. So, any savings is good savings.

[Halandaar]

6 hours ago, Interrogator Stobz said:

Has anyone calculated savings yet? Or is it still in assumption land?

 

Can't confirm savings when we don't know what price these boxes are going to sell for. 

 

If they pitch them at £100 (same price as Combat Patrols), Mechanicum box will save you £58.25 (36.8%) - but it could very easily cost more than that.

 

 

 

 

[lhg033]

These are really nice.

 

The SM one ticks a few boxes for me and I could see myself with a couple of these at some point down the line. 

The AM one is a nice start collecting of models I actually want 

 

I am not fussed by the SA infantry models but if i wanted to dabble these would be where I'd start. 

 

[Doghouse]

I think the Leviathan would prevent me buying multiples of this set because I couldn't see myself using multiples of it, something like a predator would have have been good.

 

Other two look ok.

[sarabando]

Il probably get the SA one first. Its got the most i want in it. The mech one i have most of on its way already, and the marine one i only really need rhinos atm. 

[Elfranco]

Totally new to the heresy rules...csn you take smaller squads at all? Could you have 5 missiles. 5 heavy bolters? Just thinking of options if I brought in... 

[SalamandersBro]

I believe for Heavy Support Squads you can take units of 5.

[Doobles57]

23 minutes ago, Elfranco said:

Totally new to the heresy rules...csn you take smaller squads at all? Could you have 5 missiles. 5 heavy bolters? Just thinking of options if I brought in... 

Tactical squads start at 10 and go up to 20. Heavy Support squads start at 5 and go up to 10.

[Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf]

33 minutes ago, Elfranco said:

Totally new to the heresy rules...csn you take smaller squads at all? Could you have 5 missiles. 5 heavy bolters? Just thinking of options if I brought 

Yes, you can.You can also check Legacies and try a Veteran Support Squad,and mix weapons. It's another option.

 

https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_04-08_warhammer_the_horus_heresy_legacies_of_the_age_of_darkness-kwblao0gdd-aidm8yitdu.pdf

[Pacific81]

21 hours ago, 01RTB01 said:

 

There's a lot of assumption in here. I really don't like mkii and will be quicker to buy more mkvi than mkii. I won't be the only one. How do you know that rhinos didn't sell? Looking at events and people's army building they seem quite common place. You just seem to be asserting your opinion as fact without any actual evidence. 

 

I am only half joking when I say the evidence for Rhinos not selling, and GW having lots left in inventory, can be seen by how much better they are in the new Heresy edition.. 

[Beef]

If its £100 I would buy it for my Space Wolf Army and add them to my current 40K space Wolves.  Size wise the Mk6s dont look to small compared to primaris marines.  I would use them as either 2 x 10 man grey hunter squads  or 10 man grey hunter squad and 2 x 5 man heavy intercessor squads or those primaris squads with rocket launchers that look so bad.   

 

In terms of WYSIWYG it doesn't make a difference to me as i dont play.  I dont have any Rhino's so that would be great form a modelling point and the leviathan is always a great addition just wish it had a CC arm.