Kill Team Dead Silence. Tau vs Space Wolves

[irlLordy]

No instigator carbine, unless you bring the full squad kinda sucks if you're building for kill team. Same with the missing absolver bolt pistol.

[Karhedron]

I feel the need for a few spare Reiver bodies to top up the KT to the full 10-man size and go max-plas.

[HeadlessCross]

3 hours ago, irlLordy said:

No instigator carbine, unless you bring the full squad kinda sucks if you're building for kill team. Same with the missing absolver bolt pistol.

The Instigator sucks anyway, but it's odd just like with the Plasma Gun being limited to one at both squad sizes. 

[Northern Walker]

Why, yes, I am a plasma pistol enjoyer, thanks for asking GW.

[Trokair]

6 hours ago, Lord Marshal said:

Faction Packs for Tau and Space Wolves now have the Kill Teams, as well as the Munitorum Field Manual update for points.

 

Stealth Suits are locked to 5 as had been feared, though Wolf Scouts can go up to 12 (albeit two of them being the lowercase wolves).

 

 

My two sqauds of 6 XV15 and one squad of 6 XV25 are rather sad. 

[Marshal Reinhard]

Huh... I only now realized, millions of years after everyone else, that they're using traditional plasma guns... I think this might be the first we've seen of unit in Mk X armor using an older design weapon, barring the occasional boltgun on named a character? What designs are the plasma pistols?

[Karhedron]

13 minutes ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

What designs are the plasma pistols?

 

This is the only picture I have seen so far. It is a bit end-on but it looks like a Primaris design plasma pistol I think.

 

[Morovir]

5 hours ago, HeadlessCross said:

The Instigator sucks anyway, but it's odd just like with the Plasma Gun being limited to one at both squad sizes. 

It's because the Instigator is the alternative build for the Pack Leader model, so per strict adherence to the instructions, as you have to have a pack leader within the first 6 models, you will only be able to build the Instigator with the second lot of 6.

[Wispy]

43 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

 

This is the only picture I have seen so far. It is a bit end-on but it looks like a Primaris design plasma pistol I think.

 

58 minutes ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

Huh... I only now realized, millions of years after everyone else, that they're using traditional plasma guns... I think this might be the first we've seen of unit in Mk X armor using an older design weapon, barring the occasional boltgun on named a character? What designs are the plasma pistols?

 

Contemporary, not classic. 

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

55 minutes ago, Morovir said:

It's because the Instigator is the alternative build for the Pack Leader model, so per strict adherence to the instructions, as you have to have a pack leader within the first 6 models, you will only be able to build the Instigator with the second lot of 6.

 

You actually don't have to have a Pack Leader. The specialists are all limited to 1, but you can skip any of them including the Pack Leader. The only unit that's an auto-include is the Wolf. But otherwise, you could have a full pack of Hunters if you wanted.

 

(EDIT: I should be more clear about that last statement - yes, you COULD have a full pack of Hunters + Wolf (not sure why you'd ever want to), but for WYSIWYG purposes you'd either need to buy two Wolf Scout boxes, kitbash with some external bits, or do a "counts as" because even though both the Pack Leader and Frosteye are optional, that base model they share doesn't include an official third build option for a Hunter, nor would there be any leftover Hunter bits to scavenge from within the kit if you built the Hunter option for all four of the other models. You're not forced to take the Pack Leader or Frosteye, and converting that model to a Hunter would be simple, BUT you'd need to build at least one of the other models as the Specialist variant if you want to stay within one kit and be properly WYSIWYG.)

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Lord Nord in Gravis Armour
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[Morovir]

I meant for the purposes of the 40k rules, the base squad always comes with a pack leader so the expectation is that you would assemble the pack leader as one of the models, meaning that you wouldn't be able to built the Frosteye (if you followed the instructions to the letter).

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

25 minutes ago, Morovir said:

I meant for the purposes of the 40k rules, the base squad always comes with a pack leader so the expectation is that you would assemble the pack leader as one of the models, meaning that you wouldn't be able to built the Frosteye (if you followed the instructions to the letter).

 

Ah, fair point. My brain immediately went exclusively to Kill Team.

[Silvereyes]

Wow, does the Stealth Suit datasheet suck. Basically just the old datasheet molded onto the new models. Granted, the observer ability is basically the backbone of the current Tau meta. But you couldn't add new options, or maybe a new ability to go with the new models? Something to make it feel like the next step? Just feels quite lame honestly. Hopefully the 11th edition codex may have a more interesting datasheet for them.

[Wispy]

 

 

MediocreHobbies is the only one who I've seen build it for 40k instead of Kill Team and honestly I like it way more than the special butterfly specialists.