[RUMOUR] Blood Angels poster faction for 11th

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

On 10/4/2025 at 7:33 AM, gideon stargreave said:

this is the blood angel vs ork box I want nostalgiad 

This could be the "Devastator Captain" Valrak has mentioned. Sorry if someone else has said this I haven't read the full thread yet.

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

As a Blood Angel, I love the sound of this. Even if it is only box art. But what that box art entails really excites me.

 

Firstly, does this mean maybe that Blood Angels would have a Codex Supplement drop immediately with the Space Marine 11th Ed. Codex in Summer 2026? In 10th, I hated waiting a year for our supplement at due to the three year edition cycle, that's 33% of the edition without dedicated expanded rules. I know other factions have this way way worse and in general GW should move away from doing this but that's a separate conversation. 

 

Secondly, will the models therefore be pained up in BA red in the reveals etc? That will be awesome to see.

 

Thirdly, will the CGI trailer feature Blood Angels? That would be amazing! CGI Dante would just be *Chef's Kiss*. I would love to even see Dante and Guilliman talking, maybe we'd cut back and forth between a conversation consisting of Guilliman telling Dante to go to Armageddon and BA on the ground fighting. The lore implications of that are great too as Armageddon is in Sanctus and Dante is Warden of Nihilus - Guilliman must have a good reason to ask Dante to go to Armageddon.

 

That leads me to my final question, will the BA be the protagonists of the edition launch novel. While Indomitus and Leviathan weren't great in my opinion, Dark Imperium was GREAT. I would love for the lore and the Blood Angels in general to get a serious update in this launch book. 

 

[Blindhamster]

I for one didn’t mind the priest and captain not having jump packs on the model. The models were clearly successors to corbulo and tycho, neither had packs. They’ve always been a codex chapter with minor deviations. I personally never liked the over reliance on assault marines that was a thing for a while (but wasn’t originally). Fellow 2e starter here.

I honestly love all our character models, albeit I’d have preferred a different style to the wings on the sanguinor and maybe a different head.

 

the sanguinary guard aren’t as bad to me as some, though I’d have liked more variety in helmets/details and I actively dislike the lack of obliques on the armour. Totally get the fact many wished for wings, and even bought some myself lol (though in magnetising them as I’m still unsure if I want to use them)

 

the upgrade sprue was fine for me, I like bare heads, I’d have preferred a few less wild looking ones. I like the swords, but I prefer more traditional sword shapes to sabers and our art almost always had the traditional sword shape.. I think more of our units should have gained access to the gear on it as right now it’s mostly a waste

 

i would have really liked a blood angel intercessors kit though and still hope we see one to replace the old tactical kit. And I think we should have still had a death company full kit with wildly aggressive poses 

 

aaaanyway. 
 

Im with @chaptermastergodfry in that the idea of a launch video etc is exciting. Im sure the core models will be totally generic, but I do hope we get something decent update wise to make up for the poor offering for units in our update.

Edited Thursday at 03:44 PM by Blindhamster

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

28 minutes ago, Blindhamster said:

i would have really liked a blood angel intercessors kit though and still hope we see one to replace the old tactical kit. And I think we should have still had a death company full kit with wildly aggressive poses

I think we will get this eventually, it might just take a while.

 

In 11th Ed. vanilla marines are getting a new tactical squad (Tactical Intercessors or whatever...) - GW will want ot sell this to the divergent chapters as well, therefore I don't think BA branded tacical squad will come in 11th Ed. 

 

I think a Libby Redemptor is more on the cards, along with Corbulo and Seth. Then 12th Ed. maybe we'll see a dedicated DC kit and BA Tactical Intercessor squad.

[Blindhamster]

I dont see librarian dreads being a thing, or if they are, they will be a core choice, not a blood angel one. 

Seth is almost a given I think, Corbulo I'd like to see. In actual fact in 11th I think "the big 4" will get single model releases, and "blood angels" will be Seth. I.e. Nothing blood angel even if the rumour of us being on the box ends up being true. 

But I'd like to see some proper kits to make up for the fumbled release we got (Again, I think our character releases were good/great, but our units were effectively non-existent compared to all the others) 

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

I get what you mean about Libby Dreads being for everyone, but they are an established specific BA thing and I'm sure there's some lore it's because BA legion are the most psychically capable loyalists; hence the Black Rage. 

 

If Valrak is to be believed, we might get terminators this edition still which would be awesome.

 

[Orange Knight]

I also don't understand why the Blood Angels Captain HAD to have a jump pack.

 

Last I checked the Blook Angels make use of infantry, vehicles and other units in much the same way as the other chapters did. 
They LIKE to use jump packs, and thankfully the current range has lots of such models available. 

 

Going back to topic - a Devastator Captain of some sort is a good idea. A specialist captain for leading Hellblasters, or perhaps another infantry unit GW might be releasing? Fingers crossed for the Tactical squad with Grav Rifles.

Edited Thursday at 03:04 PM by Orange Knight

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

7 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

Fingers crossed for the Tactical squad with Grav Rifles.

I'm hoping Primaris do get an all Grav squad - all Grav-Cannon squad in Gravis armour? Hell yes. Holding out for an all Volkite Tacticus squad. As for the Tactical Squad, please please please can we get one heavy or special weapon per 5, and sergeant pistol, mele and combi weapon options (while they're at it can they fix combi weapons?)

[Orange Knight]

Yeah Gravis armour would probably look the best... just means we get less models in a transport lol

 

...unless we get a Grav Spartan? I can dream...

[DemonGSides]

15 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

I also don't understand why the Blood Angels Captain HAD to have a jump pack.

 

Last I checked the Blook Angels make use of infantry, vehicles and other units in much the same way as the other chapters did. 
They LIKE to use jump packs, and thankfully the current range has lots of such models available. 

 

Going back to topic - a Devastator Captain of some sort is a good idea. A specialist captain for leading Hellblasters, or perhaps another infantry unit GW might be releasing? Fingers crossed for the Tactical squad with Grav Rifles.

 

Because if I want a BA captain without a jump pack, I just put a power pack on a captain model.  I don't think it is crazy to think "Man this BA Cap could've also had a Jump pack on the sprue" and I don't think it's much of a leap to think the same way about the Sanguinary priest.  Especially when they give us a datasheet for Death Company Cap a Jump Pack.  Kinda feels like a no brainer?

 

Maybe YOU are happy with the loss of options and flavor, but personally I don't prefer that. 

Edited Thursday at 03:19 PM by DemonGSides

[Wispy]

You could quite easily make a Blood Angel themed Jump Captain with existing kits, even one in the same kind of armor as the multipart BA Captain in an appropriate jumping pose... Would require acknowledging the current Sanguinary Guard kit exists though, and that while it's missing the wings the rest of the kit is very useable. 

 

Or you could just buy a regular Codex Jump Captain and paint him red.

Edited Thursday at 03:21 PM by Wispy

[DemonGSides]

22 minutes ago, Wispy said:

You could quite easily make a Blood Angel themed Jump Captain with existing kits, even one in the same kind of armor as the multipart BA Captain in an appropriate jumping pose... Would require acknowledging the current Sanguinary Guard kit exists though, and that while it's missing the wings the rest of the kit is very useable. 

 

Sure but they released a box called "Blood Angels Captain".  Why not just include the wargear that the faction is most known for?  Why not support the Sanguinary Priest builds people have had for years?

 

My point wasn't that you can't just kitbash or paint your way there; that's quite literally what I had to do because GW sucks. I even slapped a JP on the current Sanguinary Priest and just use the Legends datasheet.

 

What I'm saying is that it's stupid that it ever went away.  And when a faction has all the basics covered through access to the standard models, why are we wasting slots on their release schedule for stuff that is just fine and mostly standard?  Shouldn't we want flavorful and unique sculpts?  Afterall, it's easy to learn on an upgrade sprue to make a basic unit into something slightly flavorful, but it's a lot harder to take a flavorful unit and make it basic, so the flavorful stuff SHOULD be chock full of good stuff.

 

And I have 6 of the current Sanguinary Guard; their poses are not exactly what I would call unique nor great.  They've got some unique tactical rocks, for sure, but it's 3 poses and then your Captain is now in the same pose as the jamoke assigned to guard him.  Boring. 

 

I like the BA cap; bought three of them overall with the Combat Patrol included, so it's not like I hate him. Just puzzled about the decision to not include a JP with the JP subfaction, and even more annoyed with the changes to the Priest. 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 03:43 PM by DemonGSides

[Blindhamster]

The pose in the BA captain kit wasnt designed for a jump pack, i know you can put one on and it'll look fine, but GW clearly has a design preference for jump captains to look like they belong alongside the jump intercessors (and probably vanguard) now. What you're actually asking for is two captain kits... honestly I'd have loved that personally! But it was never going to happen. I also converted my own, not much choice right. I didn't use sanguinary guard (because to do so would mean having two random SG bodies leftover. 

Blood Angels captain being its own datasheet is the problem. We should have "just" gained the option for inferno pistols on our captains (jump and on foot in tacticus) as a rules addendum rather than the dumb datasheet. Especially as our upgrade sprue means there's a "model" for it. 

 

I 100% agree that the Priest jump pack option shouldn't have gone to legends, but then again there's a whole host of things that shouldn't have gone to legends. Maybe we'll see a jump priest model in the future? 

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

5 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

Why not support the Sanguinary Priest builds people have had for years?

Just want to point out that as a guy who has multiple Sang Priests w/ Jump Packs and have used them for many, many years... GW have never produced a Sang Priest w/ Jump Pack model. That option has always been a kit bash.

[Blindhamster]

1 minute ago, ChapterMasterGodfrey said:

Just want to point out that as a guy who has multiple Sang Priests w/ Jump Packs and have used them for many, many years... GW have never produced a Sang Priest w/ Jump Pack model. That option has always been a kit bash.

Technically not true. The blood angels old honour guard kit came with one.

 

Edited Thursday at 03:42 PM by Blindhamster

[Mogger351]

7 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

 

Sure but they released a box called "Blood Angels Captain".  Why not just include the wargear that the faction is most known for?  Why not support the Sanguinary Priest builds people have had for years?

 

My point wasn't that you can't just kitbash or paint your way there; that's quite literally what I had to do because GW sucks. I even slapped a JP on the current Sanguinary Priest and just use the Legends datasheet.

 

What I'm saying is that it's stupid that it ever went away.  And when a faction has all the basics covered through access to the standard models, why are we wasting slots on their release schedule for stuff that is just fine?  Shouldn't we want flavorful and unique sculpts?

I mean their iconic thing to me is the death company and the light vs dark eternal struggle they have.

 

Its epitomised in their angelic visage for the most "light" units, which naturally is represented via jump packs. That's why sanguinary guard and sanguinor have the packs and (previously) wings.

 

They've shown a propensity for jump packs, but as noted so have ravenguard. To add to that there is a jump pack captain (two now), does it not having "blood angels" in the name matter so much? Without current ed knowledge I'm assuming there is some attachment issue, but I'd need the problem here explaining.

[DemonGSides]

1 minute ago, ChapterMasterGodfrey said:

Just want to point out that as a guy who has multiple Sang Priests w/ Jump Packs and have used them for many, many years... GW have never produced a Sang Priest w/ Jump Pack model. That option has always been a kit bash.

 

Are you saying you prefer when GW removes rules and unit accessibility?

 

I never claimed they had a JP SP for sale on the past, just that it was a game piece I have played for years. 

[DemonGSides]

1 minute ago, Mogger351 said:

I mean their iconic thing to me is the death company and the light vs dark eternal struggle they have.

 

Its epitomised in their angelic visage for the most "light" units, which naturally is represented via jump packs. That's why sanguinary guard and sanguinor have the packs and (previously) wings.

 

They've shown a propensity for jump packs, but as noted so have ravenguard. To add to that there is a jump pack captain (two now), does it not having "blood angels" in the name matter so much? Without current ed knowledge I'm assuming there is some attachment issue, but I'd need the problem here explaining.

 

This type of post is so funny.

 

"your veterans are all bedecked in jump packs, and your specialist units had jump packs, and your motif is angel wings, and your primarch had legitimate full wings, and the historical past of in game mechanics has always centered around jump packs and going fast, but I just don't see how you think of flying Marines as a staple of BA?"

 

Yeah I can't imagine why 

 

I've stated why I want the BA cap to come with a JP; it would make more sense than what we had. There's nothing more to it than that. I think the current cap is fine but would've been cooler if produced in such a way that it let it go double duty, and it totally could have, as could the Priest. 

 

It's really a summation of the BA refresh as a whole. Mostly fine but ultimately disappointing. 

[ChapterMasterGodfrey]

11 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

Are you saying you prefer when GW removes rules and unit accessibility?

 

I never claimed they had a JP SP for sale on the past, just that it was a game piece I have played for years.

No, I'm not saying this? I just thought you were complaining that the model kit didn't come with a Jump Pack and I was saying that, in fairness, no GW "Sanguinary Priest" kit has come with a jump pack.

 

14 minutes ago, Blindhamster said:

Technically not true. The blood angels old honour guard kit came with one.

Was he a full Sang Priest or an apothecary? As I understand it, from various lores over the years, in BA Apothecary doesn't equate to Sang Priest but equates to something like a Sanguinary Novitiate and a Sang Priest is more skilled than an apothecary.

[Mogger351]

25 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

 

This type of post is so funny.

 

"your veterans are all bedecked in jump packs, and your specialist units had jump packs, and your motif is angel wings, and your primarch had legitimate full wings, and the historical past of in game mechanics has always centered around jump packs and going fast, but I just don't see how you think of flying Marines as a staple of BA?"

 

Yeah I can't imagine why 

 

I've stated why I want the BA cap to come with a JP; it would make more sense than what we had. There's nothing more to it than that. I think the current cap is fine but would've been cooler if produced in such a way that it let it go double duty, and it totally could have, as could the Priest. 

 

It's really a summation of the BA refresh as a whole. Mostly fine but ultimately disappointing. 

You trivialise ravenguards claim to the same space who also used lots of jump units for hit and run, had a jump pack wearing primarch and specialist jump units in the lore.

 

When I started playing, death company were random models from random units, they sold metal marines who didnt come with jump packs iirc.

 

They didnt have them in a kit until 5th, sanguinary guard also didn't exist until 5th. That's also the same time they had assault squads move to troops iirc and the meme list began.

 

I suppose perspective on it all is based on perspnal vintage and whatever everyone's personal golden era was.

[Rhavien]

It's all my fault. I finished painting my first sang priest with jump pack since it was an option for BA just a short time before it was taken away. You can blame me for that.

 

On topic: I really would love to read some more lore about BA and Imperium nihilus. I mean Dante has the high command on half the Imperium sanctioned by the loyal primarch. That should lead to some cool stories.

[Blindhamster]

24 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

You trivialise ravenguards claim to the same space who also used lots of jump units for hit and run, had a jump pack wearing primarch and specialist jump units in the lore.

 

When I started playing, death company were random models from random units, they sold metal marines who didnt come with jump packs iirc.

 

They didnt have them in a kit until 5th, sanguinary guard also didn't exist until 5th. That's also the same time they had assault squads move to troops iirc and the meme list began.

 

I suppose perspective on it all is based on perspnal vintage and whatever everyone's personal golden era was.

To be fair, pre 5th we did have veteran assault squads and jump pack honour guard when nobody else did, and our death company were allowed jump packs in 2nd and 3rd ed at least (4th edition admittedly they didn't... 4th edition was also the first indication that someone at GW doesn't like Blood Angels lol), so DemonGSides isn't wrong when he says jump packs have been part of our identify for a long time/forever.

 

But its also true that it isn't all we are and stuff that goes against jump packs isn't inherently bad.

 

 

[Karhedron]

3 hours ago, ChapterMasterGodfrey said:

Firstly, does this mean maybe that Blood Angels would have a Codex Supplement drop immediately with the Space Marine 11th Ed. Codex in Summer 2026?

 

I plan to keep my expectations muted to avoid disappointment. Current rumour is that the 10th edition codices will remain valid in 11th (same as the 8th edition ones remained valid in 9th). So we will only need a new supplement if we get new models 

 

Actually I am fairly happy with our rules. LAG and Angelic Inheritors are both strong and fluffy Detachments. The Death Company and Golden Host Detachments are kinda weak but both those units work really well in the other detachments so it is not a big loss. And the detachments still exist for players who are interested in fluffy rather than competitive play.

[Mogger351]

36 minutes ago, Blindhamster said:

To be fair, pre 5th we did have veteran assault squads and jump pack honour guard when nobody else did, and our death company were allowed jump packs in 2nd and 3rd ed at least (4th edition admittedly they didn't... 4th edition was also the first indication that someone at GW doesn't like Blood Angels lol), so DemonGSides isn't wrong when he says jump packs have been part of our identify for a long time/forever.

 

But its also true that it isn't all we are and stuff that goes against jump packs isn't inherently bad.

 

 

Yeah but it was also a time when you were forced to have none jump units as well. That's the key that I think has been lost over time. What was once a choice for all units and often just a bit more prevalent than others, has been run into the "everyone has jump pack it's their identity" meme machine.

 

Same with bikes and white scars, which is another flanderisation that devalues the army and probably irritates dark angels.

[DemonGSides]

51 minutes ago, Blindhamster said:

To be fair, pre 5th we did have veteran assault squads and jump pack honour guard when nobody else did, and our death company were allowed jump packs in 2nd and 3rd ed at least (4th edition admittedly they didn't... 4th edition was also the first indication that someone at GW doesn't like Blood Angels lol), so DemonGSides isn't wrong when he says jump packs have been part of our identify for a long time/forever.

 

But its also true that it isn't all we are and stuff that goes against jump packs isn't inherently bad.

 

Sure. Put a JP on the sprue and make it dual use. Then both sides are happy. Instead we got a new datasheet so it can use an inferno pistol and no jump pack. Objectively a stupid way to go about it, with the combo of flavor failing the model that literally has Blood Angel in its name.

 

12 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

Yeah but it was also a time when you were forced to have none jump units as well. That's the key that I think has been lost over time. What was once a choice for all units and often just a bit more prevalent than others, has been run into the "everyone has jump pack it's their identity" meme machine.

 

Same with bikes and white scars, which is another flanderisation that devalues the army and probably irritates dark angels.

 

They have access to the same C:SM units as any other given faction, so if you want to run Red Space Marines you can, but anyone who wants to lean into a theme that's been present for 20 years is wrong and should be happy the refresh was mid at best. Gotcha.

 

1 hour ago, ChapterMasterGodfrey said:

No, I'm not saying this? I just thought you were complaining that the model kit didn't come with a Jump Pack and I was saying that, in fairness, no GW "Sanguinary Priest" kit has come with a jump pack

 

I'm not sure how "Well in the past they did this thing that people had to do a work around for" is fair when in contention with "I wish GW hadn't done this thing and instead included the JP so we could still use the SP w JP." No one ever claimed SPwJP was something anyone could buy previously, mine uses a leftover SG jump pack.  But they had data and experience to bring that unit to the table with both wargear styles and they chose not to, and I think that was a dumb choice. 

Edited Thursday at 05:40 PM by DemonGSides