[RUMOUR] Blood Angels poster faction for 11th

[Wispy]

28 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

Speaking of the 11th edition box, if GW had ANY sense, they would market the box with Blood Ravens.

 

Dawn of War 4 is out next year. They could even drop a few Blood Raven heroes near the start of 11th edition.

 

A box that ties in to a big game release could be massive for them.

"As seen in Dawn of War 4" can be a marketing tool for units from all the factions in the game.

RTS is pretty niche genre these days, its not viable to play on anything other than a PC, it's not going to have anything close to the impact that a multiplatform Space Marine 2 had. Best stick to Ultramarines.

[Marshal Reinhard]

8 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

Blood Angels would lose access to Heavy Intercessors but could take Assault Intercessors as a BL option instead

 

Would suck for that one guy with a Blood Angel heavy intercessor army

[Orange Knight]

4 minutes ago, Wispy said:

RTS is pretty niche genre these days, its not viable to play on anything other than a PC, it's not going to have anything close to the impact that a multiplatform Space Marine 2 had. Best stick to Ultramarines.

 

RTS is on the way back. MOBAs replaced them for a while, but people are getting sick of that format.

 

There used to be a rich history of RTS games on console going as far back as the PS1. Command and Conquer, Warzone 2100, Warhammer, etc were all RTS games on the original PlayStation. 

 

With clever controller layouts, DoW4 could easily be on modern consoles.

Just now, Marshal Reinhard said:

Would suck for that one guy with a Blood Angel heavy intercessor army

 

Does any Blood Angel player field more than 30 Heavy Intercessors? I'm not saying they would lose access to the unit, just their spot in the Battle Line.

[Blindhamster]

Do we think we would see another animated video?

 

also, I also had thought perhaps it’s actually blood ravens, considering the recent heroes rebox and DoW4. Depends on if Valraks whisperer knows the lore/game or not I guess. The two are distinct if you do, but could be mixed up otherwise 

[Razorblade]

12 hours ago, Orange Knight said:

 

Yes, but they'll min max under additional restrictions and limitations. That alone will have an impact on how the army looks as a whole.

 

Imagine how thematic it would be if different infantry units were battle-line choices in different armies.

 

The generic option could be Intercessors and Heavy Intercessors. 

Blood Angels would lose access to Heavy Intercessors but could take Assault Intercessors as a BL option instead

Raven Guard would lose Heavy Intercessors but have Infiltrators, etc etc etc

 

And these units would have to be taken. It would even play into the balance between Chapters.

 

It's funny how people seem to be against a more structured list building ideology now. I remember back in 7th edition, the lists were pre-written by the Formation rules and people were all over them.

They were all over those because they allowed precisely the kind of force-org less minmaxing you complain about. People where not taking formations in general, they were taking a specific handful of formations that gave them a lot of the units they wanted anyway, without the tax of a conventional FoC, and/or  just handed out unreasonable benefits. I distinctly remember every second xenos army rolling out triptides. Space Marines were essentially just a bunch of bare bones dudes to get 700pts of free vehicles, plus whatever grav-platform. World Eaters (excuse me, Demonkin) where just a blob of dogs with added Sorcerers.

If you look at tournament winning lists in 10th there are likely more "proper" troops than the 7th (and likely also 8th and 9th) edition equivalent would have had

[Blindhamster]

but yeah, that 11th edition starter set, painted like blood angels huh? It'll be nice for the nostalgia as someone that did own the 2e box. 

 

i very much doubt they'd go for just mirroring the contents of that, but who knows! maybe it'll be 20 space marines vs 20 boyz and 40k gretchin lol

 

[ZeroWolf]

6 minutes ago, Blindhamster said:

but yeah, that 11th edition starter set, painted like blood angels huh? It'll be nice for the nostalgia as someone that did own the 2e box. 

 

i very much doubt they'd go for just mirroring the contents of that, but who knows! maybe it'll be 20 space marines vs 20 boyz and 40k gretchin lol

 

Include a cardboard dread and I'm in 

[TheMawr]

6 hours ago, Blindhamster said:

but yeah, that 11th edition starter set, painted like blood angels huh? It'll be nice for the nostalgia as someone that did own the 2e box. 

 

i very much doubt they'd go for just mirroring the contents of that, but who knows! maybe it'll be 20 space marines vs 20 boyz and 40k gretchin lol

 

 

ofcourse not, it will also include a (relatively small) Stompa and a Landraider as either sides big thing,

 

In addition to the obvious blood angels captain, also 2 Ork characters from the cover ( Goff big boss and the other I dub MadMek(s) )

The cover art also has 2 of those smaller older more egg shaped ork dreadnoughts depicted, like the screamer killer, these will then be reinvented as a new smaller thing ( maybe steal the tinboyz or runtbotz name ) 

On the spacemarine side there is then a modern interpretation of the oldschool dreadnought, wich will be the replacement of centurions.

 

Its still light on characters for a 40k box.

Lets go full nostalgy and add the coverart characters for the 2 codexes in the box; Blood angels chaplain and that Big boss ( making the one on the coverart a small boss probably... he lacks a bosspole after all.)

 

 

 

The Cardboard ork dreadnought however, remains a cardboard ork dreadnought.. with the exact artpiece. ( and the warhound titan will be released at the same day.)

 

 

 

I give this prediction a 0.02% accuracy rate :p 

[01RTB01]

17 minutes ago, TheMawr said:

 

ofcourse not, it will also include a (relatively small) Stompa and a Landraider as either sides big thing,

 

In addition to the obvious blood angels captain, also 2 Ork characters from the cover ( Goff big boss and the other I dub MadMek(s) )

The cover art also has 2 of those smaller older more egg shaped ork dreadnoughts depicted, like the screamer killer, these will then be reinvented as a new smaller thing ( maybe steal the tinboyz or runtbotz name ) 

On the spacemarine side there is then a modern interpretation of the oldschool dreadnought, wich will be the replacement of centurions.

 

Its still light on characters for a 40k box.

Lets go full nostalgy and add the coverart characters for the 2 codexes in the box; Blood angels chaplain and that Big boss ( making the one on the coverart a small boss probably... he lacks a bosspole after all.)

 

 

 

The Cardboard ork dreadnought however, remains a cardboard ork dreadnought.. with the exact artpiece. ( and the warhound titan will be released at the same day.)

 

 

 

I give this prediction a 0.02% accuracy rate :p 

Big boss?! That's Ghazghkull!

 

That notwithstanding, I'd love to see your choices come true lol. Always hope even at 0.02%

[TheMawr]

5 minutes ago, 01RTB01 said:

Big boss?! That's Ghazghkull!

 

That notwithstanding, I'd love to see your choices come true lol. Always hope even at 0.02%

 

Let me give myself a big facepalm   in my defence though, while I actually did have the codex back in the day my really grasping at "Ghazkull is a significant character" only happened when I returned to the hobby more recently, and by then ghazkull was always heavy in armor ( .. calling almost a decade recently..... )

 

All that said, boxset or not.. I wouldnt be suprised if we see new versions of old concepts but with a new identity returning ( like Screamer killer and how the Ophydian destroyers are really updated wraiths, however with a new identity as wraiths became something else.) though when looking at them, I think some horus heresy dreadnoughts already are reinventions of the RT era marine dreadnought on the 2nd edition boxcover. I stick with the 0.02% though 

[HeadlessCross]

23 hours ago, Evil Eye said:

The game has not, in fact, always been like that. Not everyone cares about hyper-optimized WAAC play.

So you'd agree that the FOC doesn't actually do what you think it does. 

[Evil Eye]

22 minutes ago, HeadlessCross said:

So you'd agree that the FOC doesn't actually do what you think it does. 

No, I wouldn't. I don't know how you extrapolated that from what I said.

 

The problem isn't that the FOC didn't work at tournament-level. The problem is that tournament-level play should be utterly irrelevant to the average gamer.

[01RTB01]

10 minutes ago, Evil Eye said:

No, I wouldn't. I don't know how you extrapolated that from what I said.

 

The problem isn't that the FOC didn't work at tournament-level. The problem is that tournament-level play should be utterly irrelevant to the average gamer.

Because they troll. Don't feed them. 

[Magos Takatus]

23 hours ago, Orange Knight said:

 

RTS is on the way back. MOBAs replaced them for a while, but people are getting sick of that format.

 

There used to be a rich history of RTS games on console going as far back as the PS1. Command and Conquer, Warzone 2100, Warhammer, etc were all RTS games on the original PlayStation. 

 

With clever controller layouts, DoW4 could easily be on modern consoles.

 

Does any Blood Angel player field more than 30 Heavy Intercessors? I'm not saying they would lose access to the unit, just their spot in the Battle Line.

I don't have much to add to this post, other than to say I played Warzone 2100 on the PC and played Command and Conquer on my Sega Saturn and loved them both.  Glory to obscure British RTS titles and console ports or genre staples respectively!

[Razorblade]

2 hours ago, Evil Eye said:

No, I wouldn't. I don't know how you extrapolated that from what I said.

 

The problem isn't that the FOC didn't work at tournament-level. The problem is that tournament-level play should be utterly irrelevant to the average gamer.

Well in that case FoC or no FoC doesn't matter does it? 

Either A. "Casual/Narrative/whatever" gaming should be the standard in which case the game does not need to enforce army composition as players will simply take whatever they consider thematic, 

Or B. The game is inherently competitive and the rules need to account for that by making thematic armies good.

It's definitely not both.

[Blindhamster]

16 minutes ago, Razorblade said:

Well in that case FoC or no FoC doesn't matter does it? 

Either A. "Casual/Narrative/whatever" gaming should be the standard in which case the game does not need to enforce army composition as players will simply take whatever they consider thematic, 

Or B. The game is inherently competitive and the rules need to account for that by making thematic armies good.

It's definitely not both.

or C. The rules for each army should actively encourage lists that fit their respective lore (hence my suggestion that detachments should be the place to "enforce" a level of army composition rules).

 

again to use the obvious one. 

Gladius is literally the example of a battle company. it should require at least a portion of battle company units be present (primarily battleline, but also some "standard" close and fire support") 

Similarly 1st company taskforce should be almost exclusively veteran based units etc.

 

Now, detachment rules can encourage this (1st company does a decent job there, as do a lot of the tyranid ones, gladius does not), but you can use it to help balance the detachments further with a level of requirement. 
 

Edited Sunday at 09:21 PM by Blindhamster

[Dark Shepherd]

11 hours ago, ZeroWolf said:

Include a cardboard dread and I'm in 

! Cardboard buildings too please 

[Tastyfish]

45 minutes ago, Dark Shepherd said:

! Cardboard buildings too please 

I suspect you might get your wish there, though perhaps more in the starter sets than the launch box.

[Kommisar_K]

On 10/25/2025 at 12:27 PM, Blindhamster said:

So that 11th Ed launch box..

 

if true im sure it’ll be interesting to see a cinematic at least with the sons of sanguinius. As others have said, I’ve no doubt all the models will be generic but there’s still scope for them to be very cool.

 

and if blood angels are poster boys for an edition, I’d like to think GW might make up for the failings of the update this edition.

 

starter set is assumed to be a speeder, vanguard, new captain, perhaps tacticals in some form? All sounds good.

 

for a bit of wishlisting for 11th Ed blood angels, I’d like to see:

- sanguinary ancient (blood angels chapter banner is conspicuously gone now with the loss of BA assault terminator kit and classic sanguinary guard)

- a blood angels infantry kit, could be a dual kit for death company and intercessors, I don’t mind. But I’d like to not need to do quite so much green stuff work lol. 

- return of corbulo, his absence sucks, perhaps rethink his gear a bit to make him more interesting/distinct from the on foot priest

- return of Seth, I don’t play flesh testers so I’d HATE for the “blood angels” update to be a character “blood angels” can’t use. But I do hope he returns.

- true wishlisting: erelim, a chance to make up for the failings of the sanguinary guard with astoraths equivalent 

 

Dang a Blood Angels cinematic would be fire. 

Wishlisting's good too. Would be nice to see the sanguinary guard get some extra minis. Don't know if they need it, but big gold BL force sounds cool. 

[Dark Shepherd]

57 minutes ago, Tastyfish said:

I suspect you might get your wish there, though perhaps more in the starter sets than the launch box.

Am only buying starter sets if they have tinboys or killer kans :)

[Blindhamster]

15 minutes ago, Kommisar_K said:

Dang a Blood Angels cinematic would be fire. 

Wishlisting's good too. Would be nice to see the sanguinary guard get some extra minis. Don't know if they need it, but big gold BL force sounds cool. 

would just be nice to get our chapter banner model back! Now that official lore is that the Sanguinary Ancient is who carries it, and the one in the squad isnt that its a "sanguinary banner"

[Tastyfish]

1 hour ago, Dark Shepherd said:

Am only buying starter sets if they have tinboys or killer kans :)

I'm definitely curious to see how they'll handle the "Redemptorisation" of Dreads. Will the Morkanauts stay as the units filling that gap?

Will Deffdreads end up leading Killakans whilst something in between takes over (a lame/injured ork put in a big kan to push around the grots)?

 

The Kan-style dreads are pretty iconic for orks, and would reinforce the dangerous but more numerous aspect of the pairing, if they were paired up against a Redemptor scale marine one. Only issue with including them in the starter set would be if this was also the place for the Meganob refresh/resize, as visually the two are going to be too similar.

 

I think Grot tanks are more likely to appear than Tinboyz though (perhaps even heralding a Grot Revolushunary detachment boosting Kans, Grot tanks and Mekgunz) in the grand scheme of things. I think Tinboyz are just going to appear as promotional gimmicks - hard to see a niche for them in 40K.

[HeadlessCross]

6 hours ago, 01RTB01 said:

Because they troll. Don't feed them. 

It's not trolling to say the FOC doesn't actually fix the problem they want, which looks like fixed army lists by the sound of it. 

[Scribe]

11 hours ago, Evil Eye said:

No, I wouldn't. I don't know how you extrapolated that from what I said.

 

The problem isn't that the FOC didn't work at tournament-level. The problem is that tournament-level play should be utterly irrelevant to the average gamer.

 

As always though, it is relevant. It drives pickup games. 

[Karhedron]

On 10/25/2025 at 9:53 PM, Marshal Reinhard said:

Would suck for that one guy with a Blood Angel heavy intercessor army

 

You rang?