Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 I always defended the useful role of Scouts, specially with certain equipment, in Horus Heresy. In this video are speaking about them in 3.0 Thoughts? Gorgoff, StratoKhan and N1SB 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386999-scouts-in-horus-heresyby-lost-legions-podcast/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted October 27 Share Posted October 27 Another unit GW took away from me by chabging their wargear options. I've built ten with Shotguns (still possible) and made the effort to give each member a little Melter Bomb. That isn't possible anymore and now I have yet another unit which is illegal to play. I've watched their video and can agree. Scouts should be a nice annoyance and are worth to take. They made them more expensive for some reason and their slot is quite hard to get but otherwise still worth it. Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf, N1SB, StratoKhan and 2 others 3 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386999-scouts-in-horus-heresyby-lost-legions-podcast/#findComment-6138779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StratoKhan Posted October 29 Share Posted October 29 I mean, would anyone you play with really kick up a fuss because the models have meltabombs modelled onto them? Like it sucks if it’s not an option anymore, but I don’t know if the unit is unusable. unless you are religiously WYSIWYG? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386999-scouts-in-horus-heresyby-lost-legions-podcast/#findComment-6139309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 I'm this instance, being the unit can't use Melta bombs, they become the same as grenades and pouches, i.e. decorative, rather than in game functional. I really don't think this invalidates your ability to use the unit competitively. Pacific81 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386999-scouts-in-horus-heresyby-lost-legions-podcast/#findComment-6139328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 10 hours ago, StratoKhan said: I mean, would anyone you play with really kick up a fuss because the models have meltabombs modelled onto them? Like it sucks if it’s not an option anymore, but I don’t know if the unit is unusable. unless you are religiously WYSIWYG? 7 hours ago, Grotsmasha said: I'm this instance, being the unit can't use Melta bombs, they become the same as grenades and pouches, i.e. decorative, rather than in game functional. I really don't think this invalidates your ability to use the unit competitively. You're both right. Nobody will notice, nobody will complain. But the problem is that I will notice and they are a constant reminder of what GW did. My Consuls are the ones really suffering thiugh because they all have different load outs in their hands which isn't possible anymore so the Scouts are in fact just a minor inconvenience. It just adds up. Here's the unit and those are the bombs. Such a shame, I was really happy how they turned put. People would also not notice because there are several other layers of things to detect before they get to the bombs. SlickSamos, Cactus, W.A.Rorie and 6 others 3 3 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386999-scouts-in-horus-heresyby-lost-legions-podcast/#findComment-6139353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch5000 Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Nobody is enforcing WYSIWYG rules to this level. Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386999-scouts-in-horus-heresyby-lost-legions-podcast/#findComment-6139378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 1 hour ago, Stitch5000 said: Nobody is enforcing WYSIWYG rules to this level. Of course not, but it is so annoying to put in the effort and then it is all for naught. And a weird change as well. I wonder why they felt it was necessary. N1SB, TwinOcted and Pacific81 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386999-scouts-in-horus-heresyby-lost-legions-podcast/#findComment-6139385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 I have seen people query loadout at events, so even though I personally don't care there are situations where people do and so there is an element here of the rule change creating unnecessary friction. I have seen similar comments about people now removing bayonets as they are not as useful in the new rules, which on a personal level upsets me (don't ruin your lovely minis that you spent hours of your life creating, because the sales team in Lenton want you to buy more! ) Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf, Brother Sutek, Gorgoff and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386999-scouts-in-horus-heresyby-lost-legions-podcast/#findComment-6140026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 I feel, high level, fast edition cycles and regular invalidation of unit options is eroding the effort people put into WYSIWYGing their armies. Yes, its no longer a rule, but its been the spirit of 30k from the start. Less people are going to put in the work... and who can blame them? Gorgoff, Spagunk, SlickSamos and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386999-scouts-in-horus-heresyby-lost-legions-podcast/#findComment-6140224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 8 hours ago, Brofist said: I feel, high level, fast edition cycles and regular invalidation of unit options is eroding the effort people put into WYSIWYGing their armies. Yes, its no longer a rule, but its been the spirit of 30k from the start. Less people are going to put in the work... and who can blame them? Exactly. It started in 2ed and now in 3ed I see it sll the time that people stopped putting in the work and who can blame them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386999-scouts-in-horus-heresyby-lost-legions-podcast/#findComment-6140248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blissful Brushes Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 I’ve always felt that as long as a model looks pretty much right, belt kit isn’t really important as long as your list is clear. I think as long as you’ve got the correct weapons and armour, melts bombs, grenades etc don’t really need to be modelled - is there a set way to model a refractor field for example? Pacific81 and Gorgoff 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386999-scouts-in-horus-heresyby-lost-legions-podcast/#findComment-6140352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.A.Rorie Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Nice scouts, @Gorgoff Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386999-scouts-in-horus-heresyby-lost-legions-podcast/#findComment-6140410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 47 minutes ago, W.A.Rorie said: Nice scouts, @Gorgoff Thx mate. https://reptilianoverlords.com/product-category/spacenam/ That is the bases plus Orlock heads. They just look the part for me. W.A.Rorie 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386999-scouts-in-horus-heresyby-lost-legions-podcast/#findComment-6140428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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