Horus Heresy Skitarii Battle Group (inc plastic Vulturax) + Steel Hand of Mars Journal

[Tymell]

Like the models themselves a lot, but God-Emperor that is an awful choice for paint scheme. The bare flesh colour of the metal just makes them look like naked long-legged guys.

Edited Saturday at 08:23 PM by Tymell

[Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf]

I like those. Very Blanche style. And Vultarax in plastic at least!

Very nice,yes.

[ShibeKing]

I prefer the 40k Skitarii, but I don't think these are terrible. I think I'm more disappointed that these aren't for a 40k Dark Mechanicus reveal.

[Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla]

I think that 40k Skitarii Vanguard are one of the best looking basic infantry and I am very disappointed with these. Stilts, helmets, ragged clothes. None of these is to my liking. Such a downgrade. Lets hope they leave secutarii alone.

[Gorgoff]

13 hours ago, Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla said:

I think that 40k Skitarii Vanguard are one of the best looking basic infantry and I am very disappointed with these. Stilts, helmets, ragged clothes. None of these is to my liking. Such a downgrade. Lets hope they leave secutarii alone.

At least we get rules which hopefully can be used by the proper models. 

[Mogger351]

28 minutes ago, Gorgoff said:

At least we get rules which hopefully can be used by the proper models. 

I suspect the silhouette and base size might be different enough to be a problem without some rocks.

[Magos Takatus]

The transition of the Mechanicum into the Adeptus Mechanicus was effectively a bureaucratic rubber-stamp to fold them into the Imperial structure, they still remained independent and only internal politics would have changed how their military functioned. It's also very rare than the tech adepts delete any data, so a lot of the 30k technology should be in mothball *somewhere*. It's not like the Astartes where the Codex Astartes reformed their structure and made use of a lot of their heavier equipment less viable in their new role in the Imperium. The Adeptus Mechanicus fights just like the Mechanicum did, and when there are Xenarites in the fold, having Forge Worlds less scared to use 40k automata shouldn't be too much of a stretch. If it's possible for a 40k space marine chapter to somehow pull a Stormbird or a Fellblade out of storage and drop it to a planet thanks to Legends rules, the fact that the Adeptus Mechanicus, that has the resources to drop titans planetide can't field a Triaros, some Castellax or an Ordinatus platform is pretty frustrating.

 

I would probably have already purchased an Ordinatus Ulator if not for GW internal politics. I bought a resin Triaros as a modelling project and it's been a glorified paperweight. However, GW have talked them out of a sale if I can't use a non-Knight Mechanicus superheavy in 40k. Maybe if they decide to repackage Apocalypse in the next few years they might undo this foolish policy, but until then GW are losing money.

 

Edit:I also love the Karacnos assault tank, and it's rad missiles fit the theme of my 40k army more than any of the current Admech heavy support. How can you have a Rad Corps detachment and then not let me use a vehicle that bombs people with radioactive munitions when it's *right there*!? I think I need to have a lay down now.

Edited Sunday at 11:49 AM by Magos Takatus

[Jukkiz]

20 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

Not before their 40k cousins make the move to 30k

Thousand sons would like a word

 

[Indy Techwisp]

3 hours ago, Jukkiz said:

Thousand sons would like a word

 

 

We would also like another word

[Dr. Clock]

I think they'd look pretty boss in AdMech reds and would probably just convert them to melee / assault to run them as Infiltrators/Ruststalkers or even Electro-priests in 40k.

 

Heck, assuming these are the same price as a Veletaris Storm section (which seems like the closest offering in the line to me), you could probably save a couple bucks to get 25 Infil/Rusty bois... Buy 2x Ruststalker boxes and 2 of these and you can probably come out ~5 guys ahead of just 4 boxes of stalkers. You'd need 15 40mm bases tho, but still a potential for poorhammer savings. 

 

Cheers,

 

The Good Doctor.

[Neil H]

As someone who has most of the Mechanicum figures in both 30 and 40k, these really do not appeal to me and shall give them a miss.

Neil

[Xenith]

These look more like necromunda models than heresy, not a big fan. the skitarii just don't hell with the rest of the line.

[Mogger351]

5 minutes ago, Xenith said:

These look more like necromunda models than heresy, not a big fan. the skitarii just don't hell with the rest of the line.

That's because they aren't part of the line. They're a separate self contained sub army you ally into mechanicum seemingly.

[Gorgoff]

10 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

I suspect the silhouette and base size might be different enough to be a problem without some rocks.

Who gives a flying :cuss: about these sort of things in the heresy would be my question. 

 

2 hours ago, Xenith said:

These look more like necromunda models than heresy, not a big fan. the skitarii just don't hell with the rest of the line.

Yeah they look like ash wastes models. 

[Mogger351]

19 minutes ago, Gorgoff said:

Who gives a flying about these sort of things in the heresy would be my question. 

 

Yeah they look like ash wastes models. 

Because there are some minor fundamentals to the game, making sure stuff is the right size for rules interactions is a fairly basic standard to hold to.

[Gorgoff]

6 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

Because there are some minor fundamentals to the game, making sure stuff is the right size for rules interactions is a fairly basic standard to hold to.

"Nobody" was the correct answer to my rethorical question.

As long as someone doesn't do it for advantage nobody cares if a model is a couple of millimetres smaller or is on a slighte different base in Horus Heresy. 

This kind of nonsense is usually found in games with a hyper competetive focus but I never meet any HH player, who cares about this especially when it comes to such extremely polarising models like the new Skitarii. 

My whole AL army is made of old resin MK4 marine ls who are at least one head smaller than the current plastic marines. 

What should I do know?

Refuse to play with anybody who uses the new ones because "they are not the right size"?

Please keep in mind that this was another rethorical question and doesn't need an answer.

A lot of people will pass on these new skitarii models because they don't like them and they all will use the 40k ones, because

A: they like their look and 

B: the artificial separation of the models and units is stupid anyway and is based on business reasons and nothing else.

 

[ThaneOfTas]

I think I need to see these in some proper Martian red. That being said, this tiresome need to differentiate the two lines is deeply frustrating.

[Corswain]

If I ever decide to add Skitarii to my Mechanicum I will be using  the 40K ones. Nobody gets to tell me what to do with my war dollies.

 

These would probably look better in other colours though.

[Mogger351]

3 hours ago, Gorgoff said:

"Nobody" was the correct answer to my rethorical question.

As long as someone doesn't do it for advantage nobody cares if a model is a couple of millimetres smaller or is on a slighte different base in Horus Heresy. 

This kind of nonsense is usually found in games with a hyper competetive focus but I never meet any HH player, who cares about this especially when it comes to such extremely polarising models like the new Skitarii. 

My whole AL army is made of old resin MK4 marine ls who are at least one head smaller than the current plastic marines. 

What should I do know?

Refuse to play with anybody who uses the new ones because "they are not the right size"?

Please keep in mind that this was another rethorical question and doesn't need an answer.

A lot of people will pass on these new skitarii models because they don't like them and they all will use the 40k ones, because

A: they like their look and 

B: the artificial separation of the models and units is stupid anyway and is based on business reasons and nothing else.

 

Let's take this reductively then, someone may prefer to use a base of LI models rather than 28mm ad it suits their mental picture of a battle from up on high, that ok? Who cares if it's stuff in the right bases. Happy with 6th ed possessed on 25mm bases for gal vorbak? Who cares about the silly internal politics (do agree on), you're just playing against a MkX army today, that ok too?

 

If that's all ok, why not use a poker chip with a skittle on? There has tk be a common denominator somewhere for base standards and understanding. Oddly I think HH is the only core game they make which doesn't have a base size list somewhere.

[Gorgoff]

3 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

Let's take this reductively then, someone may prefer to use a base of LI models rather than 28mm ad it suits their mental picture of a battle from up on high, that ok?

Do you know what a dreadsock is? 

 

3 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

There has tk be a common denominator somewhere for base standards and understanding.

 

Nope, that's completely irrelevant.

Take those the model comes with and which looks best.

Almost every player understands that instinctively. Inky those coming from games like  40k or AOS seem to be overwhelmed by the freedom of not having that enforced by rules for them.

 

3 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

Oddly I think HH is the only core game they make which doesn't have a base size list somewhere.

 

A-haaaa.

Maybe its because the player base doesn't care and never did? I you not this is the first time I even experienced that someone gets pettifogging about it in the 10 years I play HH. That's literally only a thing in tournament environments in my experience. 

 

6 hours ago, ThaneOfTas said:

I think I need to see these in some proper Martian red. That being said, this tiresome need to differentiate the two lines is deeply frustrating.

Yes absolutely. 

Funny enough I was super impressed that all the nurgle models they showed this weekend had great paintjobs.

Uncharacteristically good I must say because so far Nurgle had terrible bright paintjobs and now they smashed it. 

The Skitarii not so much unfortunately. 

I just wait and see what free painters achieve.

Edited yesterday at 12:59 PM by Gorgoff

[Mmmmm Napalm]

My only quibble is that I wish the legs were thinner, more spindly like the skitarii ruststalkers. I think that would enhance their eerieness. As it stands I think the legs and feet are a bit thick. Thin the legs down and they'd be perfect