New Defiler

[Ahzek451]

3 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

On the topic of preorder timelines, I hate the way they do them.

 

a 2-3 week gap from reveal to preorder is more than enough. 
 

for me personally the second the war com article goes up the preorders should go live.

 

but this 4-8 week period from reveal to preorder is stupid.

If only thats where the issues ended. There are still mainline models that are out of stock that came out a year ago after the rigamarol of a limited release in a box and pre order wait period. 

[HeadlessCross]

5 hours ago, 01RTB01 said:

January was 500 worlds. February is Maelstrom so logically March will be eye of terror. 

I'd at least like a preview of rules of some kind. Wonder if they'll give it a different bespoke rule. 

[Mogger351]

6 hours ago, Xenith said:

Defiler looks amazing, maybe closer to the original fluff than the first model. I assume this will be £65/£75 which is about the price of a meal for two in a mid range pub/restaurant in the UK these days.

In 2005 a meal for two was ~£40 and the defiler was about £35, so maintaining the price point of a meal for two = a defiler 

I think most of us are expecting more in the £90-£115 bracket in honesty.

[Magos Takatus]

On 2/13/2026 at 8:26 AM, Chaplain Raeven said:

Just saw this one from Snake Hammer while scrolling through my FB-feed. 

Deemun Creb.

 

I think this might be a model I buy to paint up and sell. That way I can play with a fancy new kit, I don't have to find space to store it and hopefully one of the chaos boys waiting to be thrown a bone can have a nicely painted model for their army and it will serve as an incentive to get my little online store up and running. 

 

I don't think I'll build it in Deemun Creb kitbash though, I think one of the stock builds gives it a bit more presence. 

[crimsondave]

6 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

I think most of us are expecting more in the £90-£115 bracket in honesty.

 

Agree.  I'm expecting $170.  Warhammer has outpaced inflation at this point.

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

I'm thinking this will priced like a Primarch. Is that £105 these days?

[CastellanDeMolay]

2 hours ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

I'm thinking this will priced like a Primarch. Is that £105 these days?

I suspect it will contain a similar amount of plastic, but despite its size I suspect it will be priced cheaper due to having weaker rules and to maintain the "prestige" (for want of a better word) of the Primarch models, as they're supposed to be unique in the setting and there are quite a few defilers around on different battlefields. 

[Mogger351]

14 minutes ago, CastellanDeMolay said:

I suspect it will contain a similar amount of plastic, but despite its size I suspect it will be priced cheaper due to having weaker rules and to maintain the "prestige" (for want of a better word) of the Primarch models, as they're supposed to be unique in the setting and there are quite a few defilers around on different battlefields. 

Rules strength has 0 impact on pricing, plus a reminder that the lord of skulls, monolith, tesseract vault, baneblade, greater daemons, all knights larger than an armiger, wraithknight, stormsurge and a whole slew of 30k/AoS kits are all that price or higher.

 

You're simply inventing reasons to hope for a lower price atm.

[01RTB01]

In fairness they want us buying multiple defilers, there's really no reason for most of us to get more than one of the same primarchs.

 

I'd hope they have it slightly lower to sell more units.

 

However, the new Maelstrom boxes are priced at $310 CAD which is terrifying.

[Jukkiz]

Knowing GW, we´re only getting higher prices. They seem to think everyone has wallets overflowing with cash, while most try to balance reasons to buy box or two. I think i haven´t seen discount from GW ever? 

[01RTB01]

1 hour ago, Jukkiz said:

Knowing GW, we´re only getting higher prices. They seem to think everyone has wallets overflowing with cash, while most try to balance reasons to buy box or two. I think i haven´t seen discount from GW ever? 

 

We're going back a bit however, I did pick up a load of dark eldar and epic eldar blisters for 50 pence a blister. However, those days are long gone.

 

The battleforces, combat patrols and launch boxes are essentially discounted but I don't believe we'll ever see prices lower.

[TheMawr]

2 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

Rules strength has 0 impact on pricing, plus a reminder that the lord of skulls, monolith, tesseract vault, baneblade, greater daemons, all knights larger than an armiger, wraithknight, stormsurge and a whole slew of 30k/AoS kits are all that price or higher.

 

You're simply inventing reasons to hope for a lower price atm.

 

Alot of those you mention that are not epic heroes are titanic models and twice the volume or more than this new defiler seems to be.

 

While there are photoshop shenanigans sure, that defiler is not in the far distance, its base is ( awkwardly when you focus on it.) touching bases with that cadian soldier on the right. There is some distance "shrinking" but probably not much.

That scale also would roughly correspond with the skulls on the base of the defiler.

 

When looking at this picture 

 

The Defilers spatial outline is at most slightly larger in both height and width than the rogal dorn tank, but I dont think in total volume, due to its crabby legs and general make out it has more empty space and is less of a box the rogal dorn tank is. ( if it is bigger at all, I find it hard to tell from the picture... it could actually be smaller than the rogal dorn.) but I'd think when wild guessing, wich all of this is for the moment, the rogal dorn is a good pricepoint.

 

From what little I can see I think people are over estimating the defiler's size.

Im not betting on it though, just putting a few cents for thought.

[01RTB01]

If it were Rogal dorn price - $125CAD that'd be decent to be fair. Guess we'll know in about a month. In the meantime I'll get cracking with noise marines.

[Mogger351]

5 hours ago, TheMawr said:

 

Alot of those you mention that are not epic heroes are titanic models and twice the volume or more than this new defiler seems to be.

 

While there are photoshop shenanigans sure, that defiler is not in the far distance, its base is ( awkwardly when you focus on it.) touching bases with that cadian soldier on the right. There is some distance "shrinking" but probably not much.

That scale also would roughly correspond with the skulls on the base of the defiler.

 

When looking at this picture 

 

The Defilers spatial outline is at most slightly larger in both height and width than the rogal dorn tank, but I dont think in total volume, due to its crabby legs and general make out it has more empty space and is less of a box the rogal dorn tank is. ( if it is bigger at all, I find it hard to tell from the picture... it could actually be smaller than the rogal dorn.) but I'd think when wild guessing, wich all of this is for the moment, the rogal dorn is a good pricepoint.

 

From what little I can see I think people are over estimating the defiler's size.

Im not betting on it though, just putting a few cents for thought.

A rogal dorn being a box requires less plastic as it'll have less total surface area ironically and fewer components in theory. On minicompare it is indeed a bit bigger than a dorn in each direction but as you not less of a brick of volume. It is also slightly smaller than a great unclean one.

 

A dorn is £63.50 and was slandered at release due to them not putting the bottom of the mini in the box to lower prices.

 

A great unclean one, whilst larger in volume all round is £105.

 

There' a 40% price gap there for it to land in.

[Valkia the Bloody]

Having just bought and built the HH Kratos tank, I personally think the new defiler will be about the price and weight of the Kratos. 

[Antarius]

Lots of reasonable points about pricing, but I think it’s difficult to say anything about the price at this point. I mean, sometimes there’s rhyme and/or reason to their pricing schemes, other times not so much. There’s also the question as to when it’ll come out relative to the obligatory annual price increase, which might be factored in to its price, or it might not.

[Xenith]

17 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

Rules strength has 0 impact on pricing

 

Incorrect, GW famously adhere to "the goblin index" where the weaker a model (e.g. goblins) the more you need to buy for the army, and reflect this in a lower price per model. Stronger models like characters that you'll only ever buy one of come with a goblin index price premium. That's why monopose characters are like £24 when they contain as much or less plastic than a £5 model. 

Edited 7 hours ago by Xenith

[Xenith]

Of course this is in general terms, if a model gets a nerf they don' make it cheaper 

[CastellanDeMolay]

1 hour ago, Xenith said:

 

Incorrect, GW famously adhere to "the goblin index" where the weaker a model (e.g. goblins) the more you need to buy for the army, and reflect this in a lower price per model. Stronger models like characters that you'll only ever buy one of come with a goblin index price premium. That's why monopole characters are like £24 when they contain as much or less plastic than a £5 model. 

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[Mogger351]

2 hours ago, Xenith said:

 

Incorrect, GW famously adhere to "the goblin index" where the weaker a model (e.g. goblins) the more you need to buy for the army, and reflect this in a lower price per model. Stronger models like characters that you'll only ever buy one of come with a goblin index price premium. That's why monopole characters are like £24 when they contain as much or less plastic than a £5 model. 

This isn't always true or respective either. Mek guns vs almost any unit in the game shows this.

 

Tau commander vs broadside and so on.

 

Honestly we'll have to see, but I'd advise people temper expectations if they're thinking it'll be £60