Archmagos Terminus Thulia Ghuld + Hastarii (40k)

[GreaterChickenofTzeentch]

9 hours ago, Lord Nord in Gravis Armour said:

The Hastarii are presumably the units originally referred to as "Hephaestons" (Haephestons?) in the excerpts from Jes Goodwin's sketchbook.

 

The ones that said "Skitarii Terminator Equivalent" next to them, supposedly, in the section on what units Duneriders should transport? I'm pretty sure they are. I wonder if they will use the "Hephaeston" name for a choppy variant? Maybe those big guys with the quad buzzsaw arms that the Night Lords were fighting in the ADB books.

[Bouargh]

6 hours ago, Orange Knight said:

I imagine the new Heavy Skitarii can be run as a squad of 10? The weapon options look interesting.

I'd be a bit scared equipping the squad such a short time before the new edition drops. GW love changing the efficacy of weapons with each update, and whatever weapon has the more compelling rules now might be the less optimal choice in 6 months time...

 

It is an understandable position. But on the other hand, shall we decide to believe the rumours, the next edition isn't it supposed to be more a kind of cleaning rather than a full reset? If no or little changes are expected, then it might be considered that the current state of the rules will remian largely untouched. But your point is as much valid as any other overoptimistic counterview...

 

Anyway, getting some new models for AdMech is a kind of reassurance that the army is no going to drift slowly toward the closet and remain part of the core range. And we might even consider that, seeing the rhythm of release, this update is a relative big release. All that stuff with these campaign books is btw a bif release: lots of models for a end of cycle milestone. And much more to come apparently. it makes me wonder about the rhythm of future codice update, after the new Ed. Shall we expect a rather late update of AdMech? this is my main issue atm. or rather main question mark.

[Mmmmm Napalm]

7 hours ago, Marshal Rohr said:

What on earth possessed them to go back to horrible hunch squat posing!?

I believe its to convey the heft of their backpack generators, as mentioned in the article. I highly doubt it is indicative of a trend.

[Nephaston]

Guesstimates for base sizes seem to have settled on 32mm for Hastarii and 80mm for Thulia, which makes hastarii just mildly taller than skitarii, and Thula slightly taller than Cawl.

 

 

And in regards to the hunch, I'd argue they aren't hunching per se, they are just nugget guys with extremely large rigs that are not meant to replace the limbs one to one.

[Magos Takatus]

21 minutes ago, Mmmmm Napalm said:

I believe its to convey the heft of their backpack generators, as mentioned in the article. I highly doubt it is indicative of a trend.

I agree. It's the easiest way to convey heavy, armoured troops and make them instantly distinguishable from the fast, agile Sicarians. Their bodies have been optimised for their role. Comparatively low centre of gravity for stability. They look compact so hopefully they will fit in transports pretty easily. Looking at those weapons, the Eradication variant should be fun to put into a transport, throw them into the face of your opponent and vaporise some terminators, and if they survive, redeploy and use the rest elsewhere. The Neutron variant can probably scuttle around under Dunecrawlers legs and help them take down larger prey.

 

The biggest problem I have with them is that it's three more weird names for me too remember. Fusiliers I have remembered, the rest.... I'll have to work on that. lol

[lhg033]

New heavies - they are ok howeveer I dont really get the hunched posture given they are augmented / given a standard servitor with heavy shoulder mounted heavy weapon stands up straight 

 

The new HQ is interesting but having seen it i just have the following running through my head  'Ba-bay Cawl... do do de do.....'
More a reflection on me I feel.

[Grand Master Laertes]

11 hours ago, Bouargh said:

 

It is an understandable position. But on the other hand, shall we decide to believe the rumours, the next edition isn't it supposed to be more a kind of cleaning rather than a full reset?

 

 

All the editions from 4th to 7th have been successive cleanings of the 3rd, and weapons efficiency changed wildly between them

[TheTrans]

Can I please just have a bit more grim-dark body horror with my mechanical priests.. 

[Vogon]

I do like the new Heavy unit but I can't help thinking of these guys from back in the day.

 

Cheers

 

Vogon 

[Magos Takatus]

1 hour ago, Vogon said:

I do like the new Heavy unit but I can't help thinking of these guys from back in the day.

 

Cheers

 

Vogon 

Good god, that's a blast from the past. You've also reminded me of the Necron Destroyers of that era, and it made me giggle. Like a tiny Necron Land Speeder. 

[Northern Walker]

Am I seeing things or does the priest appear to have a really big bum? Is it just the photography with the mechanicus models being a bit oddly dimensioned? Looks very cool though.

 

The heavy weapons guys are 1:1 pose with necron immortals though, a little underwhelming for me.

[Evil Eye]

18 minutes ago, Northern Walker said:

Am I seeing things or does the priest appear to have a really big bum? Is it just the photography with the mechanicus models being a bit oddly dimensioned? Looks very cool though.

 

The heavy weapons guys are 1:1 pose with necron immortals though, a little underwhelming for me.

It's a rare techno-relic, the Archaeotech Restorative Solenoid Engine (or A.R.S.E for short). It restores mechanical parts by its mere presence, and can even cause machinery to upgrade itself- some Skitarii reported merely witnessing the A.R.S.E turned their floppy discs into hard drives.

 

Spoiler

 

[DeadFingers]

1 hour ago, Northern Walker said:

Am I seeing things or does the priest appear to have a really big bum?

She does have a victorian ball gown kinda thing going on.

[Orange Knight]

So are these going to be an independant release or are they tied to a future campaign book?

Cadia was mentioned. Is Cawl heading there to close the eye or something? lol

[Jukkiz]

21 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

So are these going to be an independant release or are they tied to a future campaign book?

Cadia was mentioned. Is Cawl heading there to close the eye or something? lol

Knowing current Cawl story line, he will propably be pokeballing Vashtor to get his secrets

[ZeroWolf]

28 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

So are these going to be an independant release or are they tied to a future campaign book?

Cadia was mentioned. Is Cawl heading there to close the eye or something? lol

They're part of the next campaign book which will probably be dropped either at the end of next Mondays reveal or the week after. Basically these are the guys (and gals) going against the iron warriors in the Eye of Terror campaign.

[Marshal Rohr]

I don’t think these are terminator equivalents, I think these are meant to be Skitarii “devastator” equivalents, not that it means anything anymore. Now that we know total war is coming they’re probably trying to fill in the range by tiers like in total war games. Tier 1 Servitor Clades and Hvy Wpn/Claw Servitors. Tier 2 Skitarii Vanguard/Astarii. Tier 3 Rangers/Sicarians/Pteraxii and on an on. There is no Tier 4/5 unit for AdMech yet, so it’ll come with the 11th codex probably. 

[Tastyfish]

Stubcarbines and Arc rifles/pistols as the shoulder mounts? Not sure how useful the former will be, other than to balance out the points of a neutron laser - but a full squad of arc weapons might be interesting.

[brother_b]

I’m not sure what these guys are bringing to the table. Admech already has loads of heavy firepower. 
 

I would have preferred heavy infantry that’s melee based and could sit on an objective and have enough save, T, or wounds to survive some shooting/combat.

 

That being said I’ll buy them all. 

[Magos Takatus]

1 hour ago, brother_b said:

I’m not sure what these guys are bringing to the table. Admech already has loads of heavy firepower. 
 

I would have preferred heavy infantry that’s melee based and could sit on an objective and have enough save, T, or wounds to survive some shooting/combat.

 

That being said I’ll buy them all. 

Having some ranged firepower that's not on bases the size of a dinner plate does sound valuable to me, honestly, but I get what you mean. I'm not sure what melee loadout would be most useful since Sicarians seem to have the buckets of small attacks covered and Kataphrons and Kastellans are the heavier hitters? I guess an Omnissian Axe style profile could be useful, but I'm not sure the Tech Priests would allow them such a status symbol, so perhaps a different weapon with a comparable profile?

[Dezron]

2 hours ago, Magos Takatus said:

I'm not sure what melee loadout would be most useful since Sicarians seem to have the buckets of small attacks covered and Kataphrons and Kastellans are the heavier hitters?

 

Shield+power sword and extra arm with gun on it. Something like Crimson Exemplar. 

 

Shield and Spear combo is already taken by Securatii. 

[Bouargh]

I wonder if the eradication caster will be close of the current eradication ray from the mago?

As for the neutron fusil I expect a high S weapon:S12 maybe?

 

Big advantage would be for these models to climb in a transport and get more convenient deployment/lower LoS footprint than kataphrons.

 

All we need now is a 40k version of Myrmidon secutor : though infanterie with big cleavers able to take a ride in a transport… 

[Magos Takatus]

48 minutes ago, Bouargh said:

I wonder if the eradication caster will be close of the current eradication ray from the mago?

As for the neutron fusil I expect a high S weapon:S12 maybe?

 

Big advantage would be for these models to climb in a transport and get more convenient deployment/lower LoS footprint than kataphrons.

 

All we need now is a 40k version of Myrmidon secutor : though infanterie with big cleavers able to take a ride in a transport… 

Hard to tell, really. The Eradication Caster looks more closely related to the vehicle variant, but it's obviously not going to be *that* powerful.  As lovely as a Str12 heavy weapon would be, I don't think GW are that generous!