arnesh88 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Hey all, I had some friends ask if the new generic Red Corsairs power armoured models would be good to use for Horus Heresy to represent Blackshields or Traitor forces towards the time of the Siege of Terra. My initial suggestion is "maybe trim back some of the iconography and spikes, but for the most part they would fit what a lot of the traitors looked like at the time". Agree or disagree? I personally think that mixing/matching those kits with the MK II/III/VI would be a good balance of flavor/budget. I might be iffy on some of the weapons that the Corsairs wield being too close to 40k. Thoughts? Orodhen, LameBeard, Pacific81 and 2 others 2 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387593-red-corsairs-and-conversions-for-end-of-hh-warbands/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Yup I think they would be absolutely brilliant for this purpose. I converted some modern Chaos marines to use as Scouring-era Sons of Horus, but you could equally apply them to during the Heresy, as a few of the Legions were already getting quite 'far gone'. These Corsairs would be absolutely spot on for that too I think, like you say just a bit of removal of some of the extraneous chaos iconography. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387593-red-corsairs-and-conversions-for-end-of-hh-warbands/#findComment-6157318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orodhen Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) I'm considering grabbing them for a Traitor Space Wolves mini-project. Probably replace a few pieces here and there (some backpacks, some more relevant helmets, shoulder pads, etc). Edited February 18 by Orodhen Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387593-red-corsairs-and-conversions-for-end-of-hh-warbands/#findComment-6157412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 swap the bolters for more heresy era bolters and the backpacks to mk6 or mk2 etc then throw in the heresy helmets and i think they will do great for Nl and other warbands. Xenith 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387593-red-corsairs-and-conversions-for-end-of-hh-warbands/#findComment-6157430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orodhen Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 My only struggle is figuring out which unit they could represent. Without any weapon swaps, they could pass as fancy Despoilers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387593-red-corsairs-and-conversions-for-end-of-hh-warbands/#findComment-6157478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 18 hours ago, Orodhen said: My only struggle is figuring out which unit they could represent. Without any weapon swaps, they could pass as fancy Despoilers? command squads, chieftains, terror squads, Sagar mazon, vets. Orodhen and SlickSamos 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387593-red-corsairs-and-conversions-for-end-of-hh-warbands/#findComment-6157600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) One thing I should mention as someone who has tried to make a scouring/end-heresy army is that doing a lot of conversion, custom work doesn't really work with AoD the game & armies, unless you have a lot of free hobby time. The reason being HH3.0 demands big blocks of line infantry (50/60+) for a viable army, and unless you are building straight from sprue it takes up so much time. I got about 15/16 marines into mine before realising this was never going to be an AoD army and instead I am using it for skirmish (KT, OPR) or early edition 40k, which has 25% of the mini count. I possibly went a bit overboard (greenstuff conversion for chainmail, adding spikes and stuff) but to give you some idea it was taking me 2-3 hours to make one marine, in case you are thinking of doing similar you can learn from my mistakes! Edited February 19 by Pacific81 Deus de Mortalis, RolandTHTG, BadgersinHills and 4 others 2 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387593-red-corsairs-and-conversions-for-end-of-hh-warbands/#findComment-6157601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 5 hours ago, Pacific81 said: One thing I should mention as someone who has tried to make a scouring/end-heresy army is that doing a lot of conversion, custom work doesn't really work with AoD the game & armies, unless you have a lot of free hobby time. The reason being HH3.0 demands big blocks of line infantry (50/60+) for a viable army, and unless you are building straight from sprue it takes up so much time. I got about 15/16 marines into mine before realising this was never going to be an AoD army and instead I am using it for skirmish (KT, OPR) or early edition 40k, which has 25% of the mini count. this is why i start all my armies with 2 squads of vets. Small model counts and i can easily turn them into squads of bolter marines without much hassle. Pacific81 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387593-red-corsairs-and-conversions-for-end-of-hh-warbands/#findComment-6157645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnesh88 Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 6 hours ago, Pacific81 said: One thing I should mention as someone who has tried to make a scouring/end-heresy army is that doing a lot of conversion, custom work doesn't really work with AoD the game & armies, unless you have a lot of free hobby time. The reason being HH3.0 demands big blocks of line infantry (50/60+) for a viable army, and unless you are building straight from sprue it takes up so much time. I got about 15/16 marines into mine before realising this was never going to be an AoD army and instead I am using it for skirmish (KT, OPR) or early edition 40k, which has 25% of the mini count. I possibly went a bit overboard (greenstuff conversion for chainmail, adding spikes and stuff) but to give you some idea it was taking me 2-3 hours to make one marine, in case you are thinking of doing similar you can learn from my mistakes! This sort of reminds me of some of the discussions I had with other players at my LGS during 1st edition when they had the legion-specific torsos/helmets/shoulder pads (now it's just helmets and shoulder pads). The main conflict was "entire army vs handful" of cosmetic upgrades. For me, I came down closer on the side of "handful/sparse", but it really depended on what the hobbyist was going for. I felt like if the hobbyist wants to display a "crusade era" army, then being more uniformed made sense because the legions were more unified. When making an army to represent one actually in the middle/end of the Horus Heresy, that sparse upgrades was better to show the rapid changes in army structure (if there was any), and the replenishing of forces with reused armour or quick deployment of reserved stock of armaments. So I was a hobbyist that wanted mid-late Heresy, and did sparse upgrades, spreading out helmets and torsos, and even mixing armour marks in squads and painting different helmet colors/honour markings to show how cobbled together the army was. The only exception was shoulder pads, because they stood out the most with the iconography being sculpted and not matching how the transfers looked. Pacific81 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387593-red-corsairs-and-conversions-for-end-of-hh-warbands/#findComment-6157666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 I wabted to get them for a blackshield tactical squad. But when I realised that it will cost me fortune to buy them even with 15% off I turned away from them. GW prices are insane. MoriyaSchism 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387593-red-corsairs-and-conversions-for-end-of-hh-warbands/#findComment-6166513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 One thing to consider is finding out when the Godwyn pattern bolter came into use. Chances are it could have come out when the mk 7 was introduced if you wanted to do really late heresy/early scouring. It's plausible both could of come into use outside of the siege because of the way mechanicus data sharing worked. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387593-red-corsairs-and-conversions-for-end-of-hh-warbands/#findComment-6166543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 50 minutes ago, Doghouse said: One thing to consider is finding out when the Godwyn pattern bolter came into use. Chances are it could have come out when the mk 7 was introduced if you wanted to do really late heresy/early scouring. It's plausible both could of come into use outside of the siege because of the way mechanicus data sharing worked. Good news, the Godwyn bolter is very similar to the Ultima pattern bolter which was in use by Isstvan. Source: Horus Heresy Black Book 2. Doghouse and MoriyaSchism 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387593-red-corsairs-and-conversions-for-end-of-hh-warbands/#findComment-6166547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoriyaSchism Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 (edited) 7 hours ago, No Foes Remain said: Good news, the Godwyn bolter is very similar to the Ultima pattern bolter which was in use by Isstvan. Source: Horus Heresy Black Book 2. That's my favourite combi-flamer pattern. The FW studio also converted some combi-flamers for the Salamanders featured in the Exemplary Battles series but we never got to see a proper close up of that. Edited April 15 by MoriyaSchism Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387593-red-corsairs-and-conversions-for-end-of-hh-warbands/#findComment-6166614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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