Casual Heresy Posted April 12 Author Share Posted April 12 (edited) Your first chance to get Hive is next week in a limited edition slipcase set. https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/cqdcnxdx/sunday-preview-chaos-and-order-battle-in-the-city-of-ash/ Edited April 12 by Casual Heresy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387681-hive-by-dan-abnett/page/4/#findComment-6165982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Praetorian of Inwit Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Scalpers going to love that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387681-hive-by-dan-abnett/page/4/#findComment-6165987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firedrake Cordova Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) I guess that means we'll see the regular release in a month or two, then..? (I'm struggling to remember what the delay was between the limited- and regular release of Interceptor City) Edited April 13 by Firedrake Cordova Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387681-hive-by-dan-abnett/page/4/#findComment-6165991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alby the Slayer Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Yep, as @Taliesinsaid, probably between may and july now. I think I will wait. I dread the price on this one and I have already a lot to read. I'm a little tired of the extra steps and the price needed to acquire LE books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387681-hive-by-dan-abnett/page/4/#findComment-6166043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
son of the forest Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Preorder is now delayed for this, the Sunday preview article has been updated Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387681-hive-by-dan-abnett/page/4/#findComment-6166726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil H Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 I wonder if they have pulled it in case scalpers crash the website as the City of Ashes release at the same time could really be screwed up? Just a thought? Neil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387681-hive-by-dan-abnett/page/4/#findComment-6166789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sothalor Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 At two days from an announced release date? It's far more likely there was some issue in the shipping/logistics chain or a last-minute QC catch on some manufacturing or printing defect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387681-hive-by-dan-abnett/page/4/#findComment-6166807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
son of the forest Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 This has been stealth added to the Sunday Preview, not clear whether its the limited edition or standard hardback Casual Heresy, Felix Antipodes, Taliesin and 2 others 2 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387681-hive-by-dan-abnett/page/4/#findComment-6168333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Heresy Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 If it is the standard edition this week then I will defiently get that and not pursue the limited edition which seems to have disappeared into the warp. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387681-hive-by-dan-abnett/page/4/#findComment-6168471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmmmm Napalm Posted yesterday at 10:59 AM Share Posted yesterday at 10:59 AM (edited) On 3/15/2026 at 1:13 PM, Cleon said: I recognise some of the arguements around the BL authors from ones I've had - personally I've avoided Abnett's books after reading a few because I've never felt he's playing in the same setting as I am - in his hands it's often felt more like a generic version of a Clarke/Asimov sci fi future than the more dogmatic, dark and messy setting I've loved since 2nd ed. bit late but now that finals are over i feel more comfortable taking the time to respond on this lol so I broadly agree that abnetts work as a whole feels slightly disconnected, with the caveat that when he takes less liberties with the setting's mechanics as a whole, I think it still fits comfortably into established canon and I don't mind. As stated in such things as the Dark Heresy core book, the Imperium is host to many, many worlds, and is far from culturally monolithic. So while a world like Gershom is not an oppressively congested claustrophobic Hive City, and its unwilling inhabitant Valeintin Drusher is not a torch wielding zealot, they're both perfectly capable of fitting quite comfortably into the setting. I'd rather we see more deviations from the norm than less, so as to better represent the Imperium's unfathomable diversity of worlds and cultures. Gershom not being a living hell does not invalidate or cancel out the misery of a Hive World nor the dystopian nature of the Imperium on a macro level. Part of the issue with Abnett is that his work varies considerably; compare Horus Rising to Legion, written shortly afterwards. With respect to the 40k era specfically, I think that he takes too many liberties with certain concepts in the setting, such as Rejuvenat effectiveness (the entire eisenhoen cast being 500 is silly imo, remember 300yr old Inquisitor Voke being a shrivelled little cadaver clad in a full body augmetic brace just so he could move?), or there being collars that just turn off a Blank's null field (as a super rare technology that's fine but eisenhorn gave them to hundreds of Blanks). I'm certainly not a fan of Abnetts meddling in macro level narrative stuff, which rank among the negative aspects of his influenxe on the setting imo. But, when hes just telling a localized, typical 40k story he's fine. I'll take Abnett's more frequent depiction of planets slightly nicer than the norm* over "HERESY BLAM XDDDDD" ad infinitum. I understand that for some people, the appeal of this setting is to be as over the top as possible, and while I respect that stance I don't think one tone should cancel out the other. I think the ability of the setting to accommodate a variety of tonal approaches is one of its strong suits. *I actually don't think Abnett's that unusual in his depiction of the Imperium being slightly less dystopian than what is presented in the main Rulebooks and Codices. One of the claims ive seen repeated online, especially hellscapes like reddit, is "the imperium used to be depicted more negatively, now they depict it positively to cater to little timmy!!" frankly, i do not think this is the case. The earlier BL stories (or at least those by authors who gained notoriety like abnett and mitchell) tended to be less over the top in their depiction of the imperium's dystopian nature. It's more recent media that's gone harder on the ultra misery angle I think if I were to pick a BL series that had the most balanced depiction of the setting, and one that I think would set a good standard template (haha) for stories about the more unpleasant planets such as hive worlds, i'd choose Farrer's Enforcer trilogy. Grim, but not "AND THEY SERVITORIZE YOU FOR BEING 30SEC LATE!!! xdddd" tier. Stuff like manufactorum laborers fleeing at the sight of a navy uniform out of fear that they'll be press-ganged, or the ecclesiarchy's courts operating according to the logic of trials of ordeal. Farrer was also very good at flashing out a particular locality. Edited yesterday at 05:19 PM by Mmmmm Napalm Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla, Casual Heresy, Antarius and 7 others 5 3 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387681-hive-by-dan-abnett/page/4/#findComment-6170988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted yesterday at 12:36 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:36 PM 1 hour ago, Mmmmm Napalm said: The earlier BL stories from well known authors like abnett and mitchell seem to go less hard on the ultra-misery angle, at least in my experience. Both Abnett and Mitchell do a good job of showing that there is a human society behind everything in the setting, and that it can vary wildly from place to place. What always comes to mind for me is Ciaphas Cain quoting a popular catch phrase from the "Arbiter Foreboding" holo-dramas. It also makes the setting feel more realistic when they acknowledge that many places in the Imperium can and do experience peace for centuries or even millennia at a time. Localizing the events actually makes the setting feel larger. It is a good reminder of just how enormous a galaxy-spanning civilization would have to be. ZeroWolf, Trokair, Cactus and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387681-hive-by-dan-abnett/page/4/#findComment-6171000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmmmm Napalm Posted yesterday at 04:47 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:47 PM 4 hours ago, phandaal said: Both Abnett and Mitchell do a good job of showing that there is a human society behind everything in the setting, and that it can vary wildly from place to place. What always comes to mind for me is Ciaphas Cain quoting a popular catch phrase from the "Arbiter Foreboding" holo-dramas. It also makes the setting feel more realistic when they acknowledge that many places in the Imperium can and do experience peace for centuries or even millennia at a time. Localizing the events actually makes the setting feel larger. It is a good reminder of just how enormous a galaxy-spanning civilization would have to be. 100% agree. I've said it here before, but the best thing 40k media can do is flesh out a particular locality and, like you said, paradoxically make it feel bigger. On the subject of peaceful worlds, i think a moment of silence is in order for once-idyllic (well, relatively speaking) Gudrun from the eisenhorn trilogy; unless I'm mistaken the 8th ed. CSM codex mentioned a chaos invasion of the planet. I also think that planets and sectors experiencing peace for long periods doesn't take away from the overall dreary or foreboding vibe of the setting, either. As we see with Gudrun, it can all change in a moment. And gudrun being invaded doesn't just affect gudrun, it also means nearby worlds are probably going to get worse as they go into production overdrive for the sake of the war effort. RolandTHTG, Felix Antipodes, Ammonius and 2 others 1 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387681-hive-by-dan-abnett/page/4/#findComment-6171040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper.McGuirl Posted yesterday at 07:31 PM Share Posted yesterday at 07:31 PM 8 hours ago, Mmmmm Napalm said: I think if I were to pick a BL series that had the most balanced depiction of the setting, and one that I think would set a good standard template (haha) for stories about the more unpleasant planets such as hive worlds, i'd choose Farrer's Enforcer trilogy. Grim, but not "AND THEY SERVITORIZE YOU FOR BEING 30SEC LATE!!! xdddd" tier. Stuff like manufactorum laborers fleeing at the sight of a navy uniform out of fear that they'll be press-ganged, or the ecclesiarchy's courts operating according to the logic of trials of ordeal. Farrer was also very good at flashing out a particular locality. I agree, the Enforcer trilogy has really excellent 40k vibes without being completely oppressive to read. I also love Wraight’s Warhamme Crime entries which have a different vibe and are both Grimm and Dark but not necessarily Grimdark. They read as cyberpunk novels that then dip into 40k territory when they want you to remember that things are Actually Scary. phandaal, Felix Antipodes, Mmmmm Napalm and 2 others 4 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387681-hive-by-dan-abnett/page/4/#findComment-6171070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkia the Bloody Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Looking forward to this and just pre-ordered it for my Kindle on Amazon. Release date for Kindle is the 16th of May. Yay for summer reading! Firedrake Cordova and Taliesin 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387681-hive-by-dan-abnett/page/4/#findComment-6171173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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