Legio Custodes Battlegroup Pre-order + New Citadel Painting Handle.

[Lord Marshal]

Pre-order for the Battlegroup and Liber next week, as well as some new tools for those inclined to buy GW ones.

 

Old thread was locked, but I'm sure mods will merge this with that if they'd rather keep it to the one thread.

 

 

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  • One Shield Captain with the choice of helmeted or unhelmeted head 
  • Six Custodian Guard with 12 helmeted and 12 unhelmeted head options 
  • Six Sentinel Guard with 12 helmeted and 12 unhelmeted head options 
  • A Contemptor-Achillus Dreadnought with achillus dreadspear that can alternately be built as a Contemptor-Galatus Dreadnought with a galatus warblade and gravis praesidium shield 
  • A Caladius Annihilator grav-tank with options for a front-mounted twin lastrum bolt cannon or twin neutronium cascade projector

   

   

 

 

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The older Citadel Colour Painting Handle will continue as part of the range alongside the new one.

 

Edited March 15 by Lord Marshal

[redmapa]

If I didn't have like 20 Custodes that still need paint I'd probably get the new infantry because they are gorgeous! Im really hoping they update SoS with the same care.

[Cleon]

Oh, a return to the 'good' clippers from the current monstrosities. I will bear that in mind if I lose my current pair again.

[Brother Paint]

I’m not to sure of that painting handle, nice to see the old clippers return but what happened to the handle on the scraper?

[Subtleknife]

I find it very irritating that they wont give a definitive answer on what is happening with 40k Custodes. 

 

It really isn't great communication and it isn't consumer friendly. Some clarity beyond "these are usable" would be appreciated.

 

It looks like they are going to keep selling the off scale custodes for 40k. If that is the case I wonder if they have a 40k custodes update in the works. 

Edited March 15 by Subtleknife

[01RTB01]

The new painting handle looks awful. I don't understand why they've produced it when the others remain in the range?

[Lord Marshal]

7 minutes ago, Subtleknife said:

I find it very irritating that they wont give a definitive answer on what is happening with 40k Custodes. 

 

It really isn't great communication and it isn't consumer friendly. Some clarity beyond "these are usable" would be appreciated.

 

My guess is they'll remain non-Legends until 40k Custodes get their own bespoke version of Dreadnoughts and tanks.

 

The 'Heresy' Knights like the Cerastus are still non-Legends I believe, even post-codex.

 

They keep emphasising they're useable in 40k, which makes me think in the short term they won't be sent to Legends. Long-term I wouldn't hold out hope, however.

 

Edited March 15 by Lord Marshal

[Subtleknife]

2 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said:

 

My guess is they'll remain non-Legends until 40k Custodes get their own bespoke version of Dreadnoughts.

 

The 'Heresy' Knights like the Cerastus are still non-Legends I believe, even post-codex.

 

I believe you are probably right. The more confusing aspect is what will happen with the guard. Will they be 30k specific and 40k get a new release, or will 40k remain in the old scale?

 

It wouldnt be hard to give a bit of clarity. I know as it is GW, they won't though, which is a bit disappointing.

[Jukkiz]

new painting handle looks like cheap 3d printer project that is now sold at premium

[chapter master 454]

sitting here like...that is a really nice box with really nice models...but...if the units get nuked out of 40k then they are basically worthless because...lol 30k ;P (I know people play it but be real here, most people eyeing this for 40k).

So a shame really. GW been getting on track with how to format their rules...now if they could get on track with how they communicate better!

[Waaagh?]

28 minutes ago, 01RTB01 said:

The new painting handle looks awful. I don't understand why they've produced it when the others remain in the range?

 

It will be a cheaper alternative basically. Releasing alongside the cheap clipper/mould line remover set.

[Northern Walker]

The tools don't excite me at all - they already make a perfect handle, so why make a worse one? Clippers aren't Tamiya or GodHand, scrapers are worse than a scalpel blade.

 

The custodes models look lovely, but I do note with some slightly raised eyebrows, no intention of kicking a hornet's nest, the choices of heads they've gone for on the preview models.

[Lord Marshal]

Pricing from TGA:

 

 

That's £160 / $255.00 USD for the Battlegroup, same price as the recent Red Corsair Battleforce.

 

Edited March 15 by Lord Marshal

[Zoatibix]

If it's a dual use box of models guaranteed to have use in both HH and 40K it's good value.

Unfortunately, HH just doesn't seem to get much interest in my area. So this would purely be a 40K project.

Perhaps GW are being coy because they don't want half of either game being played with Custodes?

Edited March 15 by Zoatibix

[Evil Eye]

The GW painting handle continues its slow yet inevitable evolution into a butt plug. By 2028 they'll only be allowed to sell them at Ann Summers.

[GenerationTerrorist]

Yeah, I'd love to shell out for the new Custodes, but I'd want them for 40k mostly.

£160 is a lot to spend if you don't know for sure what the situation is.

[Doobles57]

The handle is obviously garbage. No idea what they're thinking with that. 

 

The clipper and handle-less scraper are the same pairing that gets sent out free in all the Hachette subscriptions. Guessing they've still got loads left over. 

 

Are they repackaging those dice? Pretty sure they're the small cube ones - interested to see how much the price jumps on them!

 

The important release though is the Custodes such still look excellent. The price might just be too much for me though sadly. It's a lot of stuff but it's also a lot of dough. If I want already sitting on a bunch of half finished current sculpts then it might be different to be fair. Shame. 

[Taliesin]

Interested in the Liber Custodes. New background lore rather than a repeat would be nice.

[BadgersinHills]

It being more expensive is disappointing as compared to the other HH battlegroup boxes, but I'm sure the points will be higher. 

[Moonstalker]

9 hours ago, Doobles57 said:

The handle is obviously garbage. No idea what they're thinking with that. 

 

The clipper and handle-less scraper are the same pairing that gets sent out free in all the Hachette subscriptions. Guessing they've still got loads left over. 

 

Per the article, "This lightweight plastic tool is a great budget alternative when you have loads of miniatures to paint."

 

It's going to be cheap.  This ties in with the clipper and handle-less scraper also being budget hobby tools.  GW knows that their long-term survival depends on getting new people into the hobby - and not just that, but repeated sales.  Sell them the entry-level tools, and when they see their usefulness upsell them on the more expensive ones.  I dunno about you guys, but at my local GW they've got scrapers without handles and clippers out for new customers to build their first mini with.  They're squarely aimed at new players, tools to upsell while they're getting their first box of minis.

 

This ties in with the handle only being able to handle 25 to 40 mm bases.  This both protects their more premium handles that they're keeping, that can handle larger bases, and it keys in to the second point in the quoted sentence (and the point about repeated sales): selling ten of these to existing customers.  It'd be nice to have a handle for every mini in a squad that you're batch painting, but even if I think the painting handle I got from GW is the best money I ever spent there, I can't afford to buy ten handles at their current prices.  If these are cheap enough, and work well enough?  Maybe I'll grab one every time I pick up a pot of paint, till I've got a half dozen and can do a combat squad at a time.

[01RTB01]

I've got one of the older painting handles. Much comfier to grip than the newer slimline ones for myself. 

 

I batch paint and must be in the minority as I've never wished I had ten painting handles. Especially as I paint on my lap, if my squads were all handled up I'd just keep knocking them over ever 5 seconds. 

 

I am not the target market. Definitely at the wrong end of the wedge. 

[Mogger351]

Well they should finally address directly or otherwise, what is up with 40k custodes as well.

Edited March 16 by Mogger351

[Marshal Loss]

Sorely tempted by this box, the models are absolutely stunning, but I just know it's going to sit on the pile of shame and there's Defilers + Falchion + new 40k edition + allegedly Old World Warriors of Chaos right around the corner. Don't think I can justify it 

[Matcap86]

Fine! I'll get it I suppose. Been waiting for the plastic versions of custodes vehicles since the launch of HH2.0 so on the project pipe they go. Good thing I've already got my painting process sorted. Now to figure out if I can repurpose my existing custodes infantry somehow.

[Alby the Slayer]

I will get just the captain when she will be available as standalone. I don't need anything else but curious to see photo and video with the proportions and also kitbashes.