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New edition, new extras.

 

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The Combat Patrol Companion is an introductory guide to the world of Warhammer 40,000, packed with piles of background lore on the galaxy and the factions warring over it, evocative artwork, and quick hobby tips and guidance for playing your first games of Combat Patrol. 

 

This 184-page book is split between a general overview of the Warhammer hobby and key concepts useful for new players – which can be used in concert with an upgraded Warhammer 40,000 app to play games of Combat Patrol – and an expansive guide to the setting and each of the armies you can play. Even if you’re just getting it for the lore, it’s a lavishly presented book full of fantastic artwork and all the grim darkness you know and love.

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With the new rules for terrain and objectives shaking up how your battlefields look and function, it helps to have a set of standardised terrain area footprints on hand to make setup simple. 
 

The Terrain Area Set includes 16 double-sided card templates that can recreate all of the official terrain maps for the new edition of Warhammer 40,000. Spread across 5 different sizes and shapes, they can be layered with any terrain features you have on hand to create interesting battlefields with clearly defined objectives, and they’re easy to transport to boot.

 

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In addition to these two, the Core Rulebook, Chapter Approved Mission Deck, and Dominatus Deck from the Armageddon box will also be getting standalone releases, so you can get right into the new edition even if you don’t pick up one of the incredible launch boxes. The Core Rulebook even has a variant cover, sporting an Ultramarine instead of the Blood Angel on the original,* while the card decks have different boxes, but the contents are the same.

All of these goodies will be up for pre-order just after Warhammer 40,000: Armageddon, so keep an eye trained on Warhammer Community for more info. 

 

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Lot of interesting stuff to unpack and digest there.

 

The Combat Patrol Companion looks like the lore section that was previously part of the BRB for the last 3 editions. I am all for splitting this out as having to lug this around made the rulebook really heavy and a lot of the material was rehashed and of little interest to experienced players.

 

We knew (or guessed) Terrain templates were coming. I was slightly surprised they were not in the new edition box set but it is good that they will be available independently.

 

Lastly I am really glad that the rulebook and mission cards will be available separately. The slimline rulebook in particularly will be great! It does reduce the incentive for experienced players to get the new box though.

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36 minutes ago, Karhedron said:

 

 

Lastly I am really glad that the rulebook and mission cards will be available separately. The slimline rulebook in particularly will be great! It does reduce the incentive for experienced players to get the new box though.

Looks like normal rulebook is ultramarines on front (top half looks like re used infomitus art too). Thats all the reason anyone needs to grab a Blood Angels on the cover box :biggrin:. 

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2 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said:

Sorry for peoples eyes, but it's also been noticed that the Combat Patrol page accidentally shows off one of the new starter sets:

 

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As speculated but good to see confirmed. 

There's 9 days left before the final 10th edition Combat Patrol magazine is released (in the UK at least), if there are any specific updates to Combat Patrol then we might be waiting to for that to get out of the way before they start publicising any new changes etc.

 

Combat Patrol is entirely online, so something that can pretty much just be updated on the fly without worrying too much about printing timelines. They also have separate datasheets to the core 40K ones.

 

Hard not to see at the very least a new "Combat Patrol: Armageddon" update that has new missions with the different floor tile objectives and layouts.

Perhaps even adding dispositions to the existing combat patrols as part of that mission generator.

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Is that some new Ork terrain, or a new unit in the "Play" section, the glowy blue thing - given presumably that picture is of the Ork combat patrol vs the marine one?

I don't think I quite recognise what's behind the marines either, as it looks like a new style of wall?

 

Doesn't look like either matches the silhouettes on the mission maps. 

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7 minutes ago, Tastyfish said:

There's 9 days left before the final 10th edition Combat Patrol magazine is released (in the UK at least), if there are any specific updates to Combat Patrol then we might be waiting to for that to get out of the way before they start publicising any new changes etc.

 

Combat Patrol is entirely online, so something that can pretty much just be updated on the fly without worrying too much about printing timelines. They also have separate datasheets to the core 40K ones.

 

Hard not to see at the very least a new "Combat Patrol: Armageddon" update that has new missions with the different floor tile objectives and layouts.

Perhaps even adding dispositions to the existing combat patrols as part of that mission generator.

Can't they just... include it with the rules? So new players aren't getting suckered punched with the "you have fluff and rules for basic timmy mode, no go buy it again"?

1 hour ago, Kyari said:

Disappointing that the WarCom narrative there is that Combat Patrol is now well and truly Baby's First Warhammer, and not just small scale 40k you can play on your lunch as was the original pitch for it last edition.

I think this is a failure of product management. Like 40K management team knows there is overlap between a product that is great for bringing people into the GW ecosystem while also being a product for people already in it. But then fumbled the contents.

Why sell one rulebook when you can sell two rulebooks? GW playing the game of capitalism to a t. Consumers lose, corporation wins.  

 

Sucks there is not even an option of a big book. I loved having them. 

 

I can also see this Combat Patrol Companion being something that starts getting new yearly editions and expansions and essentially becomes paper dlc. 

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1 hour ago, Mogger351 said:

Can't they just... include it with the rules? So new players aren't getting suckered punched with the "you have fluff and rules for basic timmy mode, no go buy it again"?

 

All the combat patrol rules are free online, it's the core rules + combat patrol rules + specific rules for your patrol.

This is just the fluff book for kids who don't have phones to flick through and read, to keep them hooked.

 

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1 hour ago, Lord Marshal said:

Sorry for peoples eyes, but it's also been noticed that the Combat Patrol page accidentally shows off one of the new starter sets:

 

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As someone who's somewhat considering getting back into mainstream 40k, what's the likelihood this releases with the big starter set? It seems to contain everything I want from the Marine half...

Do we think the same will be done for the Orks?

46 minutes ago, TheWarmaster said:

Those little cardboard terrain mats will be about £87.50. 

Probably. I wish they had done these as 3d plastic instead of 2d card. Like they literally are photos of proper terrain; why can’t they sell us that instead?

36 minutes ago, Tastyfish said:

 

All the combat patrol rules are free online, it's the core rules + combat patrol rules + specific rules for your patrol.

This is just the fluff book for kids who don't have phones to flick through and read, to keep them hooked.

 

Nice summary of everything wrong with the situation.

50 minutes ago, BrotherCaptainArkhan said:

As someone who's somewhat considering getting back into mainstream 40k, what's the likelihood this releases with the big starter set? It seems to contain everything I want from the Marine half...

Do we think the same will be done for the Orks?

The article saying what else will be available 'at the dawn' of the new edition does not include the smaller boxes, so I'm guessing at least a few weeks after the big box.

2 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

Nice summary of everything wrong with the situation.

The background is all there if you are able to go online, even leaving aside lexicanum and the like there's also the whole Warhammer vault etc.

This however is a physical thing, to go with a hobby around little physical things - I can kind of see the appeal of having this cheap little book of attention, if I was getting a present for a younger child interested in getting into the hobby*.

 

Something to up wrap as a present that would go alongside a combat patrol box that they can go and have a look at over on their own, far safer than just letting them loose on r/40Klore!

 

But physical stuff has the downside of costing money, so it's a niche product. I guess I'm just looking at it and thinking it's kind of the same as a "40K Annual", or any number of those Lego/Minecraft etc books that are on sale in service stations WHSmiths etc.

 

* I'll get the old books out the attic for my kids, but if I learnt that one of their friends was going to get a starter set for their birthday etc, could see getting them the lore book.

Have they said anything about the core rules being free in 11th? Because they are free in 10th. This softback book sounds like just the core rules and nothing more in a pocket size, but that's it.

 

So that  space marines combat patrol comes with paints now?

 

Lmao about the cardboard terrain areas, I will just make my own and I will have a good laugh when the price is revealed :laugh:.

 

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The cardboard terrain is a bit fascinating, at least in design. Meant to be "clearly defined", but you have piles of dirt that go outside the boundary lines. Makes it look more natural, granted, but seems to blur the objective area. Like in that long piece, 2nd from the left top, if I have a model manage to just touch the dirt pile, but not get within the rectangle shape, is it in the objective? I'm assuming not, but surely this is the kind of thing that should be clear cut?

 

Also funny that this exists is because I thought the whole move to get away from the 3" circular markers was to make objectives feel more natural. That you can use whatever building footprints or the terrain you own to make naturalistic objectives. This seems rather redundant. But hey, can't just let the people on Etsy get to make money off objectives. And I know tournaments will want to clearly mark things for their board sets up, although I imagine most will just make their own, rather than buy this probably overpriced set.

 

Also, love that the version of the rulebook has an Ultramarine rather than a Blood Angel. Got forbid the poster boys don't get the spotlight.

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