Detachment Combos that look fun and/or more viable now.

[Tawnis]

So, we've finally got the DP released for Space Marines and I've already seen some pretty fun looking things we can do and design spaces things have been placed. 

First Company first  The First Company Task force (2DP) has been pretty underwhelming in 10th, but it looks to be a pretty natural combination with the Librarius Conclave (1DP) Having Access to Terminator Librarians with both Divination and Pyromancy being great here, with the others all being situationally useful. 

Deep Striking in a bunch of Terminators with a Librarian is an easy way to get within the 12" for the extra Pip of AP on Pyromancy for an Ocean of Sustained 1 Storm Bolter shots, and for here specifically Assault Cannons are pretty great too. You can take Fusillade for Anti-Monster/Anti-Vehicle 5+ and score some extra Dev Wounds in there too for larger targets.  Especially into an Oath of Moment target with 2+ to hit and full re-rolls to fish for more Sustained and then the ability to full re-roll the wound roll from 1st company Oath, this will delete a lot of things in shooting alone through sheer weight of dice. 

Once you're stuck in divination's ability to re-roll hit and wound rolls of 1 is great for the big weapons like power fists and Thunder Hammers that a lot of Terminators will be packing, and of Course adding Sustained 1 into that too from the Librarians. It also supports other 1st company units like Sternguard to get more Anti-Infantry Lethals (At least until the combi rules change) and Bladeguard to gain both the hit and save re-roll 1's as well as advance and charge with an enhancement. 

Temporal Corridor gives a second unit extra flexibility too allowing a unit to return to reserve (even if it's in engagement range). Put on a second unit of Terminators, they can bounce around the board freely every turn. 

This will probably be the first non-Kroot list I try out in 11th, both are detachments I wanted to play more in 10th and I love that I can combine them now. I also really like the design space of a 1DP detachment having no strats and extra enhancements instead. 

As for other combinations, I do think Librarius is the best of the 3 1DPs we have so far, and we'll see a lot more Librarians running around. Even in detachments like Vanguard Spearhead, where you might consider doubling up on all the sneaky stuff with Subversion Assets, or bounce around with Fulgris task force, I just don't think they bring the same additive value as Librarius, at least for an infantry heavy force. That being said, all the great Librarius buffs may seem WAY stronger, however, they are tied behind needing to have a Librarian in the squad with is a rather limiting factor, both in points and army composition, so we may see more vehicle heavy lists go in the direction of Fulgris for the flexibility of the Speeders. I don't really see too much use for Subversion Assets yet. 

Overall I'm looking forward to what the other factions have in store and hope that we'll get a bunch more 1DP detachments soon as it does look like currently, there's a pretty obvious combination to choose at least for the general codex chapters when you're building and we want to see. 

 

[jaxom]

Oh Librarian in Gravis Armor, where art thou?

 

I've some thoughts, but not the time to get them typed now.

[Tawnis]

1 hour ago, jaxom said:

Oh Librarian in Gravis Armor, where art thou?

 

I've some thoughts, but not the time to get them typed now.

Anything extra in Gravis would be nice. With all the Lieutenant's they've pumped out over the years, you'd think one of them would learn how to wear Gravis Armour. 

[Malakithe]

Forgefathers + Librarius might be spicy, so to speak.

[Tawnis]

1 hour ago, Malakithe said:

Forgefathers + Librarius might be spicy, so to speak.

That's true too, Pyromancy, of course extra good with Salamanders. +1S / +1Ap to a bunch of flamers seems really strong. Fusillade along with Dev Wounds from Immolation Protocol seems pretty spicy too. You could even all your eggs in one basket it and add an Apothecary to the unit to get the Immolator Enhancement in there as well. In a blob of Infernus, that would be an average of 45 hits, and about 15 Dev wounds into a monster/vehicle if you could deploy them safely... in something like a Drop Pod maybe since they can carry 12 now? (The Librarian also giving them a 4+ Invul makes them pretty hard to shift in general too.) 

 

That's pretty all in, but in general just getting an extra pip of AP on all your infantry flame weapons is going to be pretty good, too bad that as Jaxom pointed out, we don't have a Gravis Librarian, or that would be fantastic with Agressors. 

 

[jaxom]

I’d split it up a bit. I’d stick with Immolator on the character in the Aggressor Squad (b/c no Gravis Librarian). I usually put a Captain there to bring down the price of Immolation Protocols. Then one Librarian in a big Infernus Squad and another  with Fusillade in a Sternguard Squad. 
 

What about Librarius and Vanguard Spearhead? Some Phobos Librarians and maybe an Assault Terminator Squad with Terminator Librarian?

[Tawnis]

I don't know how good Vanguard is going to be at the start of 11th as the Detachment rule gets a big nerf with how cover has changed. 

 

There also isn't really anything that jumps out as a particularly good combo between the two. What were you thinking about with them? 

[L30n1d4s]

I am interested in Dark Angel Bastion Task Force with Librarius support:

 

1 - One DWK squad can be lead by a TDA Librarian (Biomancy for +2" Movement) with advance/fall back and Charge enhancement, while the second DWK squad can be led by TDA Chaplain with Bastion TF enhancement to make them "Battleline" (so advance/Fall Back and shoot/charge)

 

2 - Azrael/Lieutenant can lead a squad of Intercessors for stickying objectives and dumping 40 AP-1 shots with Lethal/Sustained (supported by +1 to wound from Stormspeeder Thunderstrike)

 

3 - Librarian with Fussilade enhancement leads 10 Sternguard in a Repulsor for MW bombing a selected target

 

4 - Predator, Stormspeeder, and Repulsor provide  long range fire support, an additional 5 man Intercessor squad gives more scoring/marking for Auspex Scan, and a pair of Invader ATVs give fast, disposable objective grabbers/action monkeys

Edited June 9 by L30n1d4s

[Helias_Tancred]

One concern I have is that most, it seems, have appropriate primary missions attached to them based on the way they play, but several do not. Dark Angel's Wrath of the Rock with primary assets is an example of ... :cuss:?

 

I haven't check on the others for my Dark Angels and Black Templars. I don't believe this is the only ":cuss:" example of this. 

[jaxom]

What’s the effective difference between priority assets and take ‘n hold?

[Tacitus]

On 6/9/2026 at 9:29 AM, L30n1d4s said:

I am interested in Dark Angel Bastion Task Force with Librarius support:

 

Are there any combinations that aren't (The Signature Det for my Chapter) with Librarius Support? 

[Karhedron]

On 6/10/2026 at 3:24 AM, jaxom said:

What’s the effective difference between priority assets and take ‘n hold?

 

Take and Hold is sitting on Objectives while PA is doing Actions on them I think. This means they score differently. T&H you have to sit through and entire opponent's turn and survive to score in your next Command Phase. With PA, you give up a turn of shooting to perform your action but I think you score at the end of the turn so it doesn't matter if your opponent blows you away afterwards as you have already scored. At least that is my understanding as I don't have the cards yet.

 

In practice this means that T&H wants durable blocks to hold the centre Objectives while PA wants fast units and uppy/downy stuff to drop onto any unguarded Objective and perform actions as quickly as possible. The difference in behviour is most pronounced when fighting Purge the Foe opponents. Purge vs T&H is like shooting fish in a barrel. The T&H player lines units up and the Purge player then knocks them down. It is one of the most unbalanced pairings in the new edition. The Purge player can simply wait for the T&H player to make a move and then has an entire turn to wipe out the scoring units with an army built around killing. Against PA, the Purge player has a tougher time because of the need to split forces. A Purge player needs to leave some units guarding Objectives. If they simply rush in for the kill, the PA player can simply scatter and then nab all the unguarded Objectives and perform Actions on them while the Purge player tries to chase them down. It may sound like a small difference but in practice a PA player will have an easier time dictating the pace of the engagement than a T&H player, especially against Purge.

[redmapa]

Ive always liked the Orbital Assault Force detachment, on paper it looks very fun with the ability to grant deep strike to models that dont have it and buff units that arrive via transport or deep  strike, for example deep striking Eradicators now puts them in melta range, 5 melta shots with all sorts of innate rerolls could wreck whatever is in range, I thik its a very versatile detachment even if it isnt bringng the pain directly, so you just have to pair it with another detachment that does bring more lethality to your list.

 

My idea was to get 15 Sword Brethren, give them the +1 charge range upgrade in Marshalls Household detachment and put them in Land Raiders or Drop Pods or deep striking them on their own with OAF, sprinkle some  other support in the form  of Bladeguard and/or VanVets,  Eradicators, etc. plus some scouts or incursors and I have a list that can deep strike several models, redeploy three units, scout move some other units and some spicy strats like precision or battle shock on demand, extra movement.

 

Marshall's Household + OAF  has some potential imo.

 

 

[jaxom]

4 hours ago, Tacitus said:

Are there any combinations that aren't (The Signature Det for my Chapter) with Librarius Support? 

I think not really. The Librarius Conclave is unique because it buffs Librarians who can then buff a variety of other units. The Librarian buffs are versatile. The other two 1DP options are nice and enable their specific units, but don’t synergize with with other units or detachment rules.

It’s also a low cost of entry (at least 1 infantry character model).

[Galron]

Getting off my xenos kick for a minute, I am thinking of trying Emperor's Shield with conclave. I already have most things I need. Terminator librarians with two bricks of 10 regular terminators, Lysander with a five man team of assault terminators. They all bounce around and do stuff. A regular librarian in a drop pod with sternguard, another with a 10 man block of Infernus in a drop pod, and then 5 intercessors in an impulsor to sticky things. I priced out all the enhancements at 20-25 points from the shield detachment since New Recruit isnt up to date. I could also skip the assault terminators and let Lysander go be a beast on his own and use the 180 points on something else.

[HeadlessCross]

It really does seem like Conclave is the one people are looking to splash the most. It had decent rules for 10th, but it affected so few units you just couldn't chance it over a more generic detachment. 

 

In particular I'm thinking Deathwatch and combining Librarius with either Vanguard Spearhead or Orbital Assault Force. Firestorm could be interesting as well for all the Special/Heavy weapons embedded into the Kill Teams. 

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

Encarmine one, LoG, and the speeder detachments look like they could be a fun combo.

[Brother Captain Vakarian]

Firestorm and Conclave has me interested because you can potentially get Terminators with S5, AP-1 Storm bolters with sustained 1 on whatever target they deep strike near. 
 

Also looking at Bastion and Conclave, to bring a good amount of intercessors but then run librarians with various veteran squads. Sternguard with fusillade, vanguard with celerity, terminators with temporal corridor… seems like a nice combination of both lots of consistency and movement tricks. 

[Tacitus]

4 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Encarmine one, LoG, and the speeder detachments look like they could be a fun combo.

Dark Flight (Dark Angels), Fulguris (Vanila) 2 CP's that really stack up the speeder buffs.  Of course I'm still reading and decoding the new rules so that may not work it was just something that struck me as "Not Another Conclave List".   If it does work, I'm expecting some sort of wild eyed tournament list that gets the whole thing nerfed in the first three months or so. 

[Karhedron]

Saga of the Beastslayer with Conclave looks promising. Lethal Hits vs Monsters and Vehicles is always solid and the saga can be extended to all targets if you play well. Then the Conclave adds the usual buffs to Sternguard and BGVs.

 

The other combo I am looking at is Beastslayer and Champions of Fenris. The core rule unlimited HI is limited by the need to use CPs to fuel it but can make an opponent play cagey. But it has a couple of nice upgrades. "Giant amongst men" gives a Character +1S and +2W which is handy for a beatstick Character. Wolf Totems gives a 5+++ against MWs which is nice to have but the cool one is "Runes of Claiming". For 1 CP it allows any Character to sticky an Objective at the end of the Movement Phase. This is handy for an army with the Purge Disposition as it means your units can keep moving up to maintain pressure on the foe while still claiming Objectives.

[redmapa]

Another detachment that seems a bit more viable imo is Stormlance, I think mixing it with Wrathful Procession to make 3 chunky units of Outriders a bit more tanky with a 5++ sounds really good and if on top you go with the Vow that allows you to advance and still do an action you could just focus on objectives and lean hard on Chaplains for the +1 to wound and 5++ for Outriders, VanVets or Assault Squads.

 

Fulguris also goes hard with Stormlance, drop your Speeders turn 1 to screen your advancing infantry and wreak havoc while the rest gets in position to charge later.

[Tawnis]

On 6/17/2026 at 9:18 AM, redmapa said:

Another detachment that seems a bit more viable imo is Stormlance, I think mixing it with Wrathful Procession to make 3 chunky units of Outriders a bit more tanky with a 5++ sounds really good and if on top you go with the Vow that allows you to advance and still do an action you could just focus on objectives and lean hard on Chaplains for the +1 to wound and 5++ for Outriders, VanVets or Assault Squads.

 

Fulguris also goes hard with Stormlance, drop your Speeders turn 1 to screen your advancing infantry and wreak havoc while the rest gets in position to charge later.

Stormlance is 3DP, you'd have to use the new Spearpoint Task Force at 2DP which is White Scars locked. So you can't take it with subfactions like Black Templar, though still good with Fulguris. 

[redmapa]

27 minutes ago, Tawnis said:

Stormlance is 3DP, you'd have to use the new Spearpoint Task Force at 2DP which is White Scars locked. So you can't take it with subfactions like Black Templar, though still good with Fulguris. 

 

Oh, it's 2DP for Black Templars I just assumed they changed it for everyone. We will just have to see if its a mistake or a trade off from BT Bastion TF  being 3DP.

[jaxom]

5 hours ago, redmapa said:

 

Oh, it's 2DP for Black Templars I just assumed they changed it for everyone. We will just have to see if its a mistake or a trade off from BT Bastion TF  being 3DP.

I’m pretty sure it’s on purpose. Storm lance with UM characters is superior to others. Similarly, Bastion with Crusader Squads benefits more from than others (except Maybe SW?).