Does anyone else think our DPs feel off?

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

Idk what it is, but it feels some of our detachments have been over costed.

at least 2 are at 3DP that should be at 2 imho

[Emperor Ming]

Yeah, but it doesn't matter, purge is by the far the best anyway, until they nerf it

 

and looking over our points hikes, guard might be dead anyway, certainly infantry squads getting a hike, will raise alot of eyebrows

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

20 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said:

Yeah, but it doesn't matter, purge is by the far the best anyway, until they nerf it

 

and looking over our points hikes, guard might be dead anyway, certainly infantry squads getting a hike, will raise alot of eyebrows

Pretty sure the core rules killed the faction but widespread points increases definitely won’t help 

[The Pounder]

A bit off topic, but I’d like to know.

 

Are we still able to put Lord Leontus (or Yarrick) in a unit with a Command Squad and thus vox and be able to give orders at increased range?

[Focslain]

14 hours ago, The Pounder said:

A bit off topic, but I’d like to know.

 

Are we still able to put Lord Leontus (or Yarrick) in a unit with a Command Squad and thus vox and be able to give orders at increased range?

From what i can see RAW wise. No, infact you can't attach anything else to the unit lead by a command squad (except Orgyn bodyguard cause it's in thier rules) with the new Support/Leader system. 

 

Which makes Political Officer (Commissars) rule invalid as it will never happen. 

[DemonGSides]

Cadians, Krieg and Catachans all have the rule on their datasheet that lets them attach two so yes, you can still double up.

 

 

 

I assume we will get a bigger rebalancing of duties once we get a new codex, but for now everything still works as we have 0 support characters, but the double up-able units all still have the rules baked in.

 

Nothing to worry about. 

Edited June 19 by DemonGSides

[Emperor Ming]

Thats old wording thou I think? They dont seperate anymore?

[DemonGSides]

1 hour ago, Emperor Ming said:

Thats old wording thou I think? They dont seperate anymore?

 

I don't know what this means.  That comes from an 11th edition datasheet.

[Rogue]

In 10th, if you killed the squad, any attached characters became separate units.

 

In 11th, the character and the squad are a single unit - if you kill the squad, the character remains part of the same unit (meaning that any 'while this character is leading a unit' rules still apply, as the character is effectively leading themselves).

 

That screen shot seems to be using the old, 10th edition wording about separating. It wouldn't be the first updating error that's been made.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

On 6/19/2026 at 12:18 AM, DemonGSides said:

Cadians, Krieg and Catachans all have the rule on their datasheet that lets them attach two so yes, you can still double up.

 

 

 

I assume we will get a bigger rebalancing of duties once we get a new codex, but for now everything still works as we have 0 support characters, but the double up-able units all still have the rules baked in.

 

Nothing to worry about. 

I tried it on the app earlier and it wouldn’t let me.

[Focslain]

On 6/20/2026 at 11:04 PM, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

I tried it on the app earlier and it wouldn’t let me.

 

That might be a programing error as the exception would have to written into the squads. Knowing GW IT that hasn't happened and the app is running on the primary logic of 1 leader/1 support per unit. 

[DemonGSides]

On 6/20/2026 at 2:17 PM, Rogue said:

In 10th, if you killed the squad, any attached characters became separate units.

 

In 11th, the character and the squad are a single unit - if you kill the squad, the character remains part of the same unit (meaning that any 'while this character is leading a unit' rules still apply, as the character is effectively leading themselves).

 

That screen shot seems to be using the old, 10th edition wording about separating. It wouldn't be the first updating error that's been made.

 

It's the datasheet from the current app fully updated to 11th. It says you can attach two units.

 

I'm not sure why this is up for contention.  Datasheets have often supplanted or contradicted rules in the main book.  It'll get brought more into line probably with our codex, but as it stands, they expect you to continue building IG lists the same way as before.  Death guard are in a similar boat; the individual DG leaders each have a blurb about how they can be attached as multiples, in contrast to how the Leader/Support paradigm has been laid out in the main rule book. These will also get updated with the codex, is my assumption.

 

The app just kinda sucks in this transitional period.  It'll get better over the next couple months. 

Edited June 22 by DemonGSides

[Focslain]

1 hour ago, DemonGSides said:

I'm not sure why this is up for contention. 

 

Last I remember (and I'm most likely wrong) that the ability to attach another character to squads was in the abilities section of the command squads. This seems to have been moved to the Unit Composition section of the infantry that units that can take them instead.

 

Like all changes, this caused confusion. I also checked and it's on the Tempestus Scions as well. 

 

Now GW IT just need to program this exception into the app and all is right again. 

[DemonGSides]

2 hours ago, Focslain said:

 

Last I remember (and I'm most likely wrong) that the ability to attach another character to squads was in the abilities section of the command squads. This seems to have been moved to the Unit Composition section of the infantry that units that can take them instead.

 

Like all changes, this caused confusion. I also checked and it's on the Tempestus Scions as well. 

 

Now GW IT just need to program this exception into the app and all is right again. 

 

Here's the 10th IG Codex (Tempestus Scions have the same rule in their datasheet; none of this changed with the move to 11th)

 

 

And 10th had rules about not allowing more than one person to attach in the main book;

 

 

There is no consideration here unless you're playing someone who's unwilling to read your datasheets.  I do agree it would be nice if it just worked day 1, but this is GW we are talking about, so it should come as no surprise that it does not lol.

Edited June 22 by DemonGSides

[Focslain]

Yeah, figured I was mis-remembering. 

 

Anyway it's up to GW IT to fix the attaching issue in Battleforge.  

[DemonGSides]

Yeah the attaching stuff in particular is just busted.  Can't attach anyone in the DG stuff even though it's the same situation.  Can't even attach JUST ONE to the Plague Marines.

Honestly it seems more like ONLY Space Marines and maybe Orks work, everyone else is in a busted state.  I don't own an Ork codex to check.  But of the codexes I own, NONE besides Space Marines have a working 'attach unit' in the Battleforge section of the app.

 

WIP, as they'll say.

[The Pounder]

Good healthy debate here guys!

 

I’m hoping it’s still viable, I think for now I’ll house rule that it’s still possible and wait for the app to update.

[DemonGSides]

These are the 11th datasheets, it's just the army builder that's busted, so not much to home rules except maybe what I get at below.

 

You can always hand write or type out your list.

 

As shown; even 10th had proscriptions against two leaders in the core rules, but that rule in particular was broken CONSTANTLY by datasheets.  There being a rule in 11th that says one thing but has a datasheet as a contradiction is normal. The only real consideration is around whether the unit breaks up when the Cadians/other bodyguard unit dies; I think that part could be up for debate but I think I'd lean towards playing it as it's described in the 11th rules as being one super unit until fully dead. That part seems the most likely part to change if it gets updated; they're not gonna stop us from taking multiple leaders as that would cripple our army. 

Edited June 23 by DemonGSides

[The Pounder]

I’ve been playing around with some lists on the app and I’m pleased to report I was able to add both the Krieg Command and Leontus to a twenty man Krieg blob!

All’s well that ends well!

 

[ChloeLikesCrying]

I can confirm that I was able to add a castellan and command squad to the same cadian shock troops on battleforge as of this morning.

[DemonGSides]

Yep most recent update fixed the connecting issues for most factions. 

 

If they update the command bunker to start to take those connections into account I will be thrilled.