Captain Idaho Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Arbites are one of those armies I loved back in the Codex Imperialis book back in the day. Judges were menacing and Arbites were faceless and remorseless distributors of Imperial decree... plus who doesn't love Judge Dredd right? There's something distinctly english in the dystopian, almost steam punk post apocalyptic desperate totalitarian portrayal of background and it always spoke to me. We know Adeptus Arbites exist as a concept often alongside Inquisitoral forces and Agents of the Imperium but let's hash out further ideas - Who would a full Arbites army be implemented and be separate in concept from Astra Militarum (who I shall forever more refer to in this thread as Imperial Guard) to be a long term permanent addition to 40K in their own right? So on that basis, I'll start the ball rolling with some concepts I quite enjoy that I feel are distinctly adjacent to Imperial Guard. Firstly, close range specialists. Long range firepower should probably be a decidedly distinct weakness in comparison to Imperial Guard. They also shouldn't be as tough as Marines despite being better armoured than most humans. So a middle ground? Perhaps judicious shotgun over representation that gives them a fierce firepower up close. I like the concept of say a single solid shot that can fly out 18" but the dual profile has a multi shot up close that is high in strength but low in AP? New rule: Range 18" S4 AP-1 Range 8" S5 AP0 , 3 shots Real world snipers are a thing so sniper teams who can support the infantry is a no brainer. Perhaps make them less able to be targeted or with powerful bonuses to cover related stealth? Shouldn't be whole squads as a pair operating is generally the way of REAL WORLD. I'd have a bonus to being within range of a Judge. Like, a special rule that he can pass a leadership check and the snipers can choose the casualty removal, but only if the Judge can see the target also. Now... here's the crux of the topic... apart from Sniper teams, Judges, Arbites enforcement squads and perhaps a shield and melee variant... where else would we go? Some sort of psychic nulls to oppose witchery makes sense. Perhaps close ranged variant of both Sentinels AND even armour vehicles that have very close ranged weapons? Ooo I had a thought. How about also Scare Grenades that suppress opponents? Works for grenade launchers. Maybe even a series of gas themed weapons that provide different effects, maybe as a single army based rule? I haven't fleshed out this concept but it just came to me. What sort of ideas for differing effects can people devise? Feel free to run with ideas folk. Always fun to discuss. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388200-how-would-a-hypothetical-arbites-standalone-army-be-implemented/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.A.Rorie Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 I really think GW missed out on giving us An Arbites army. Here are my thoughts. Arbites Combat Shotgun: Round Type Range A BS S AP D Special Rules Basic 18" 2 4+ 4 0 1 Assault Executioner 24" 1 4+ 5 -1 1 Ignores cover, Precision Your Rd 1 18" 2* 4+ 4 -1 1 Your Rd 2 8" 3 4+ 5 0 1 I personally think the issue is the Executioner round. It has to much range and this is supposed to be the basic round for arbites. So I would say combine the Executioner round and your round 1 into this. Executioner 12" 1 4+ 5 -1 1 Ignores cover, If model was stationary reroll wound roll of 1. Arbites characters (too be expanded upon): Justicar: M T SV W LD OC 6" 3 4+ 4 6+ 2 Special Rules: 5+ Invulnerable save Marshal: 6" 3 4+ 3 7+ 2 Special Rules: 6+ Invulnerable save Judge: 6" 3 4+ 4 6+ 2 Special Rules: 4+ Invulnerable save Units Sniper teams (2 man teams make sense) Pursuit teams (bike squad) Captain Idaho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388200-how-would-a-hypothetical-arbites-standalone-army-be-implemented/#findComment-6178444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawnis Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 (edited) I think that something like the Taurox looks like it would fit much more into that riot control aesthetic that the Arbites are designed for than a Guard vehicle. I'd say maybe something like a water cannon on top for riot suppression, but this is 40k, so it would probably be a chem cannon, or something else horrible like that. Otherwise, I'd look to the Palatine Enforces from Necromunda for some more inspiration. Edited July 3 by Tawnis Captain Idaho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388200-how-would-a-hypothetical-arbites-standalone-army-be-implemented/#findComment-6178455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabaakaba Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Iirk arbiters use rhinos and landraiders. Provost Marshal Judge Unit with shields Unit with shotguns Unit on bikes(Dredd) Veterans with bolters. Valkyrie equivalent Snipers Rhino Landraider Some bizarre walker in GW style (: + GSC like detachments to recruit SoB and IG That should be ok for start W.A.Rorie and Captain Idaho 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388200-how-would-a-hypothetical-arbites-standalone-army-be-implemented/#findComment-6178473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenIronhand Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Surprised nobody brought up the Repressor yet. Captain Idaho, kabaakaba and W.A.Rorie 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388200-how-would-a-hypothetical-arbites-standalone-army-be-implemented/#findComment-6178477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabaakaba Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Oh, and terrain, arbiters should use faction terrain like barricades and barbed wire. Like KT one. 1 minute ago, SvenIronhand said: Surprised nobody brought up the Repressor yet. It's still rhino W.A.Rorie and Captain Idaho 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388200-how-would-a-hypothetical-arbites-standalone-army-be-implemented/#findComment-6178478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.A.Rorie Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Ahh the repressor…..relic of the bygone era. I think GW wants that forgotten like some of the other vehicles of legends. Great transport back in the day I had a few in my sisters army. But unless they release it in plastic it set to be a legends unit for arbites with en gun replacing heavy flamer 7 hours ago, kabaakaba said: Iirk arbiters use rhinos and landraiders. Provost Marshal Judge Unit with shields Unit with shotguns Unit on bikes(Dredd) Veterans with bolters. Valkyrie equivalent Snipers Rhino Landraider Some bizarre walker in GW style (: + GSC like detachments to recruit SoB and IG That should be ok for start Land raiders are restricted to Space Marines (Inquisition snuck themselves in there) only per the Emperor’s decree. Captain Idaho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388200-how-would-a-hypothetical-arbites-standalone-army-be-implemented/#findComment-6178500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaqTaar Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 20 hours ago, kabaakaba said: Iirk arbiters use (...) landraiders. You might have been thinking of Leman Russes - they were mentioned in an Ultramarine novel, "Nightbringer", which showed the Arbites participating in planetary defense. There are some vehicles unique to the Arbites that are mentioned in novels here and there: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Adeptus_Arbites_Armoury#Vehicles_and_Artillery Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388200-how-would-a-hypothetical-arbites-standalone-army-be-implemented/#findComment-6178552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 As someone who has played Arbites squads on tabletop in Imperial Agents (and Breachers, who are very similar)- short ranged weapons without any AP are terrible. It basically turns the Arbites into worse versions of Scions, who at least have AP and Orders to make up for their sub-par weapon reach. Unless you are looking at making a purely mechanized army with every squad in a Rhino/equivalent (the new Commissar's custom Centaur is perfect for an Arbites vehicle), giving the basic Arbites squad some sort of round with at least 24" range is needed. In the Shira Calpurnia books, they mention Chastener squads that have grapple-eagles (or something similar, can't quite remember the name) a psyber-bird with what are functionally taser-claws to capture targets. That could be an interesting unit. W.A.Rorie and Captain Idaho 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388200-how-would-a-hypothetical-arbites-standalone-army-be-implemented/#findComment-6178693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.A.Rorie Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 11 hours ago, Lord_Ikka said: In the Shira Calpurnia books, they mention Chastener squads that have grapple-eagles (or something similar, can't quite remember the name) a psyber-bird with what are functionally taser-claws to capture targets. That could be an interesting unit. It has been a while since I read that series, and I really enjoyed. I forgot about the the Psyber-birds with tasers. I think they called them Grapple- Hawks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388200-how-would-a-hypothetical-arbites-standalone-army-be-implemented/#findComment-6178726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted Monday at 12:10 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 12:10 PM On 7/7/2026 at 3:11 AM, Lord_Ikka said: As someone who has played Arbites squads on tabletop in Imperial Agents (and Breachers, who are very similar)- short ranged weapons without any AP are terrible. Good point. Make the shotguns super powerful up close, S5 AP-2. *** Good ideas and feedback here guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388200-how-would-a-hypothetical-arbites-standalone-army-be-implemented/#findComment-6179298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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