Rogue Posted Monday at 10:57 PM Share Posted Monday at 10:57 PM Here's the scenario: - my opponent has a model on a 5" high platform. - I deep strike in a unit 8.1 inches away horizontally, on the ground floor. - I want my unit to charge his model. My question is: can I make that charge? Do I measure the charge distance as 8.1 + 5 (for a total of 13.1, so the charge would never be possible)? Or do I measure a diagonal line from base to base (which is a touch over 9.5"), in which case a 10" charge makes it? Or a third option we both missed. If anyone could set us straight, or point to the relevant rule, I'd appreciate it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388208-charging-elevated-units/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabaakaba Posted Monday at 11:01 PM Share Posted Monday at 11:01 PM It's seems movement doesn't changed in 11 so for unit without fly you should roll 14. For unit with fly you can measure diagonal "through the air". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388208-charging-elevated-units/#findComment-6178683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted Tuesday at 12:18 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 12:18 PM (edited) You have to end within engagement range not within base to base, engagement range includes a 5" vertical. The be within 1" is a can, so no worries there. You basically charge under them and stab upwards. As far as what you measure to, you always measure base to base. So you'd need to be within 12" (sounds like you are) and are aiming for 9 inches for the charge(so that you can get under the unit with at least one model). If the flooring is actually 6" then you have to be able to make the charge up the stairs, which is tougher. Edited Tuesday at 02:08 PM by DemonGSides Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388208-charging-elevated-units/#findComment-6178719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawnis Posted Tuesday at 02:14 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 02:14 PM To be in engagement range, you need to be withing 5" vertically. So, if they are exactly 5", then you are fine. If they are more than 5", you would have to move up the distance to the next platform below them to put you within 5". DemonGSides 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388208-charging-elevated-units/#findComment-6178739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted yesterday at 10:15 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 10:15 AM I have to end the move in engagement range, yes. But in order to be eligible to make a charge move, the target unit has to be within the maximum distance I rolled - that's the bit I'm unsure about. If we measure the elevated unit to be 13.1" away (measuring along the ground, then vertically), I can't declare that unit as a charge target because it's more than 12" away. But if we measure in a direct line, base-to-base (diagonally upwards), the bases are just 9.5" apart, in which case I can make a charge if I roll at least a 10. If I can make a charge, I agree that I only need to move forward 8" or so, and can then fight upwards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388208-charging-elevated-units/#findComment-6178814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarius Posted yesterday at 04:33 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:33 PM We ran into the same thing the other day. I think it's definitely the direct line. Otherwise the whole "engaged within 5" vertically" wouldn't make a lot of sense, as you would practically need to be within 2" anyway. Dr_Ruminahui 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388208-charging-elevated-units/#findComment-6178869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kommisar_K Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Assuming the target unit is 5" or less off the ground you'd only have to measure the horizontal distance to determine charge distance. Engagement range is 5" vertically, so the charging unit doesn't actually have to move up to get in engagement range. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388208-charging-elevated-units/#findComment-6178974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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