A little help - collection expansion/listbuilding

[TheDarkOne]

I need some advice, I've played a few games of 11th now, and I'm eager to play more, i can only get time once a week usually.

 

two thirds of the games I've played, i was wiped off the table turn 2. where I've done my movement phase, tried to advance and hide and set up, and then been completely annihilated in my opponents turn 2. 

 

against marines, and world eaters this has happened. both times i didn't have enough units to cover behind me and left room for a devastating deepstrike in my back field.  against the marines his shooting annihilated most things with deepstriking sternguard vulkan and flamer squad and melta squad plus 4 predators. against world eaters he charged everything turn two and killed my rhino with defiler shooting then huron's team died to Khârn plus berserkers and some exalted giant terminator guys killed my raptors and vindicators and and and... it was insane! I don't know how to deal with being overwhelmed so fast. the shop owner was saying i need more screening units, but i don't want to take more stuff that is just going to die! my whole army does that just fine...

 

I'd like to finish more games... It feels so bad to just get nuked and that was the one game i could play that week... man being a responsible adult with a family and job sucks... 

 

This is what I was using in the last game vs world eaters:

 

Murdertalon Raiders+Veterans of the Long War (Take and hold)

 

Huron, Masters of the Maelstrom, 5 Legionnaires

Cypher

Jump Lord with Pinions in 5 Warp talons

Sorc Terminator Lord w 5 Terminators

 

10 cultists

5 legionaries 2 hv wep lascannnon

10 legionaries 2 hv wep lascannon, meltagun

 

2 rhino

 

5 terminators w reaper

2 vindicators

2 5 man raptor squads 3 hv wep plasmagun meltagun

2 5 man warp talon squads

 

i hold the warp talons and 1 vindi i reserve usually, terminators sometimes...

 

So its... not enough screening? it feel like even if my whole army was on the board the world eater's would have charged and chewed through all of it...  

 

I guess I'm limited by the models I can field, what I have available is:

 

45 marines (chosen, legionaries whatever)

2 rhinos plus 1 unbuilt

2 vindicators

01 raptors

10 warp talons

30 cultists

5 terminators plus 5 unbuilt

6 bikes

hellbrute

masters of the maelstrom

cypher

huron

Abaddon

sorc terminator lord

chaos lord on foot

2x jump lord (1 looks an awful lot like haarkan...)

master of executions

lord discordant on hellstalker

fabius bile

sorcerer

dark commune

4 war dogs (any config)

 

unbuilt:

nurgle demon prince

demon prince

havocs

2 boxes accursed cultists

forgefiend/maulerfiend

helldrake

rhino

5 terminators

 

I'm working on building lists with what i have assembled, and they all seem to have 2 vindicators in them, because that's what i have... 

 

please, help inspire me:

 

What lists/detachments would you build given what I have? and why?

What would you buy to add that I don't have? and why?

What screens for what? what units are deadly enough on the clap back to warrant screening and baiting charges? 

How much is too much in reserve?

 

...back to painting my raptors...

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by TheDarkOne