New Nobz (and Warbikes)

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

1 hour ago, StraightSilver said:

The Nobz look a bit "Age of Sigmary" if you know what I mean. I don't hate them but they look like conversions. Not in a bad way. Bikez are cool though.

I don’t know what you mean, but in general I think AoS has had much better looking sculpts than 40K has gotten recently.

[roryokane]

Fair play, I think those bikes are pretty great!

[sitnam]

5 minutes ago, 01RTB01 said:

I'm glad you're chuffed with them. As I say, I don't dislike them. If each one has two builds I'll grab two boxes, if not, it'll be one. Same with the boyz box but I do adore the updated boyz.

 

 

The preview does seem to indicate two builds for at least some of the bodies, I'd be surprised if not all the bodies have alts. Given the kit options the new Boyz Nobz and Wrecka Boyz have, I bet you could kitbash extra Nobz pretty easily

 

I'm so close to starting an Ork army at this point. Only thing I'm hesitant about is if they remove Burna Boyz and we don't get new Meganobz

[Indy Techwisp]

I think the Nobz kit needed a Boy for comparison picture because without context they do just look like differently armed Boyz.

 

The merging of Melee profiles is a little disappointing, but honestly with the sheer number of different Nobz melee options you could possibly have with the existing Ork kits it makes sense why GW would go for a generic profile to fit "everything".

 

The bikes do look very nice and I note the "choppa" that's just 2 gears on the end of a chain.

[Redcomet]

These are just perfection. They really have absolutely nailed this Ork refresh 

[Kaiju Soze]

Love that one of the Nobz has discovered the joy of twin power klawz.

Edited 22 hours ago by Kaiju Soze

[Lathe Biosas]

Wait, these don't look like Primaris Space Marines at all...

 

I was under the assumption that Marines get a refresh/new toys with every edition, first before everyone else.

 

[Brother Casman]

Love these new Orks, looking forward to gettin' my klaws on 'em!

[NapyDaWise]

A Gunner with a big shoota

A brute with a giant chainaxe 

A pistolier with 2 shootas 

A dual power klaw guy

A heavy burna 

3 ammo grots 

 

That is 100% a kill team, either repurposed as a standard kit or they wanted to show it early due to the leaks. They even seem to have alternate gun + melee standard build, and some back banners really look like specialist banner (the 2 shootas guy one in particular) 

 

They look really cool! 

 

[Malakithe]

These are great. I love the duel wielding gun and giant skorcha.

[Laurence]

1 hour ago, 01RTB01 said:

I find it interesting how they give some units like chaos terminators, chosen and now nobz a generic cc weapons profile yet not others. Same with shooting. I'm not aware of shooting units with a "generic" profile.

 

Genestealer Acolytes are stuck with 'Hybrid firearms' where once they had autoguns and shotguns, and the bikers have 'Atalan small arms'.

[Scribe]

Back to generic profiles for Weapons?

 

Lol

[brother_b]

2 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

I don’t know what you mean, but in general I think AoS has had much better looking sculpts than 40K has gotten recently.

They do look very close to the AOS Ironjawz miniatures imho. A big part of it is the yellow armor to me.

[Frogian]

Yeah, was gonna say the same thing - think it's the yellow armour mainly doing it, will be great to seem them painted up in other ways

Edited 19 hours ago by Frogian

[Jings]

1 hour ago, Scribe said:

Back to generic profiles for Weapons?

 

Lol

 

Read: They're borderline monopose without sufficient options for multiple different loadouts.

 

 

[Mogger351]

3 hours ago, DemonGSides said:

 

I think homogenizing shooting is a lot harder than it is to say "These things all slash or stab."

 

Also people are still a bit sideways over the changes to Combi-weapons, which basically did homogenize all of the different variants into a single stat line that most people don't like.

 

"Power weapons" has, on the other hand, been mostly fine.  No one REALLY wants to roll a different die for a power axe v a power sword.

Honestly I think the issue is the expected impact and role of the item.in question.

 

It's hard to argue that a flamer and a melta have the same purpose on a combi-weapon to even out into 1 profile.

 

The power maul/axe/sword were a lot closer in purpose and stat distribution, so nobody minded as much. However combining a chainsword, power weapon and powerfist is a harder pill for people to swallow.

 

That said I think this is a "arm them as you see fit but these 3 items have a profile" type situation.

[Scribe]

13 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

The power maul/axe/sword were a lot closer in purpose and stat distribution, so nobody minded as much. However combining a chainsword, power weapon and powerfist is a harder pill for people to swallow.

 

I remember flipping out over the loss of Harli weapons, and needing to turn them on with a strat!

 

Just nonsense design.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

1 hour ago, brother_b said:

They do look very close to the AOS Ironjawz miniatures imho. A big part of it is the yellow armor to me.

I guess I haven’t looked that much at the iron jawz but i really hope they give us sculpts on par with the SCE dudes on griffins.

 

1 hour ago, Mogger351 said:

Honestly I think the issue is the expected impact and role of the item.in question.

 

It's hard to argue that a flamer and a melta have the same purpose on a combi-weapon to even out into 1 profile.

 

The power maul/axe/sword were a lot closer in purpose and stat distribution, so nobody minded as much. However combining a chainsword, power weapon and powerfist is a harder pill for people to swallow.

 

That said I think this is a "arm them as you see fit but these 3 items have a profile" type situation.

Yep. I don’t mind generic power weapon for kitbash/conversion purposes.

 

my librarian has a trident. I remember when I first came back and built him and was like “oh I have to decide if it’s a force sword, axe, or staff?” That all had different profiles.

just ‘force weapon’ or ‘power weapon’ for regular 40K is fine.

 

for smaller scale games like CP, and KT, I think makes more sense to have that level of differentiation between weapon types.

[01RTB01]

New bunker for kill team scenery?

[Zoatibix]

I love the Nobs. Superb models. I would pick some up just to paint even though I don’t play Orks but vet bills have trashed that idea.

 

I am not so keen on the bikers. They’re definitely an upgrade to the current kit but they don’t excite me.

[soviet1337]

Would like to see them next to basic Boyz but these look great. If there is a reasonable amount of flexibility with how you model them, they go to 11/10. 

[Nephaston]

Minicompare updated with the new nobs. Should be accurate as the base sizes are the usual suspects.

 

Seems to be pretty good. Also just realized the nobz are painted as Bad Moons which probably reinforced the idea these were a Kill Team, since the usual scheme is Goffs 

[roryokane]

Is it just me, or does it seem weird seeing Bad Moons without a bit more... bling/gubbins?
The bare-bones look would make sense for Goffs, but you'd expect the flashy "we got all da best kit" guys to be the ones in mega armour, or at least with a few more scavenged bitz to be a bit more ostentatious.

I think my brain is also struggling with the notion that the nobz aren't all equipped with melee and ranged weapons. for some reason, that's what Nobz should have, so seeing some with JUST melee weapons or JUST shootas is breaking my brain a little.

[sitnam]

18 hours ago, brother_b said:

They do look very close to the AOS Ironjawz miniatures imho. A big part of it is the yellow armor to me.

 

I'm struggling to see much similarity beyond the yellow tbh. Ironjawz plates look far more beaten and sharply angled.