Karhedron Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Probably a bit early as we are only just starting to get hints of the new Marines codex but I am curious as to what we can expect to see for the different Chapters when our time inevitably comes. Here are my guesses. Feel free to chip in with your own speculations or whishlists. Blood Angels : Corbulo The only one of our classic characters not to have crossed the Rubicon yet, this guy would be ideal if GW want a minimalist BA release this edition. If I was optimistic, I might hope for an upgrade frame for the rumoured Venerable Redemptor to bring back our custom Dreadnoughts like the Furioso and Libby Dreads. Dark Angels: Ravenwing, Samael, Ezekiel The new Outriders just need a Ravenwing upgrade sprue to update Dark Knights. A RW Command squad would be cool but seeing as DW lost theirs, I am not hopeful. Samael would be a perfect accompaniment to this. Ezekiel is the only other character not to have crossed the Rubicon yet so seems like a good bet. I think Dark Angels will eat well this edtion. Space Wolves: Bjorn With the beloved boxnaught finally on the way out, I think Something needs to be done about Bjorn. The rumoured Venerable Redemptor is a perfect chance as he would just need a sprue with a sarcophagus, hellfrost cannon and lightning claw to bring him into the 42nd millennium. I would love to see Russ return but I think that this is unlikely before the traditional end-of-edition campaign. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouargh Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 As the fair is opened, my own guesses: BA: a Gladiator variant and a another jetpacked unit; a 40k version of Angels's tear maybe. DA: a primarized LS Darkshroud and one special character. But not much more. Unles there is an event or campaign around then to give the final impulse of Marines of old based model phasing out. I guess DA are still the ones with the largest stock pile of models inherited from "the Ones- known-as First-Born? SW: redesigned thunderwolves. Or nothing except a mundane runepriest. IK: full range resuming I would not bet too hard on many release except spot add ons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 I predict, over the course of 11th edition:Blood Angels: -Corbulo -New upgrade sprue with vehicle upgrades -Predators are retired to Legends Dark Angels: -Ezekiel -Sammael -Ravenwing Outriders -Speeders and Flyers are retired to LegendsSpace Wolves: -Redemptor Bjorn -Thunderwolf Cavalry -Ulrik, Murderfang, Iron Priest, Wulfed all go to Legends Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawnis Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 With the renewal of the Outriders, I think would could finally see the return of Kor'Sarro on his bike Moondrakkan. Orange Knight and Karhedron 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathe Biosas Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 I can't imagine anything the Black Templar need... besides a Chaplain Dreadnought. But do you think we'll see new versions of the Space Marine (and Dark Angels) aircraft? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 25 minutes ago, Lathe Biosas said: But do you think we'll see new versions of the Space Marine (and Dark Angels) aircraft? It seems strange to remove them while Orks get to keep theirs. Maybe Primaris aircraft incoming? Tawnis 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 BA: New Sanguinary Guard Kit Potentially Black Raging Characters. DA: Black Knight Outriders Black Knight Outrider Command Squad (Same Kit, different bits) (May switch to SUPPORT instead of LEADER) (They're already adding a Captain on Bike, but DA already has Sammael so that still doesn't get them another Bike Squad attacher) The Landspeeders etiher Squat or move to Stormspeeder frames. Potentially a return to the Ravenwing Squadron (X Bikes, one Attack Bike, One Speeder) Zeke MAY be on a bike. Probably not, but maybe. SW - Potentially Swift Claws or Jump Pack Blood Claws more likely the second unless Swiftclaws ride wolves instead of bikes. If they're on Wolves, a named Wolf Riding ATTACHER or two Bjorn is likely but less so. They're putting out a book on pre-order and cover art shows him in his current/old sarcophagus. Maybe the book tells the story of his upgrade though. Sons of Dorn: Somebody is probably replacing Pedro Kantor. Probably as Chapter Master. Potentially a second CF named character - Terminator? Potentially a named Emperor's Champion or Crusade Ancient or both. Potentialy a generic Vindicator replacement tank (generic as in for everyone, but it releases during the IF window) Iron Hands: A named other than a Captain. Potentially wonky like a Jusitciar or something. Salamanders: Better spot for a named Judiciar Ravenguard: Named Phobos Libby. White Scars: Already have Suboden Khan so unlikely to see Moondrakken. Named Libby on a Bike is possible. Speaking of Suboden, I wouldn't be surprised to see a generic unit on his jetbike. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawnis Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Tacitus said: White Scars: Already have Suboden Khan so unlikely to see Moondrakken. Named Libby on a Bike is possible. Speaking of Suboden, I wouldn't be surprised to see a generic unit on his jetbike. Both Raven Guard characters have jump packs, I don't see why both White Scars Characters can't have bikes? I don't think will get another named character unless all the "codex complaint" chapters get one, and that just happened. (Unless Jaghatai (or another Primarch) comes back) I agree on the second point, I'm sure we'll eventually get that unit, I just hope it's soon. Edited August 27 by Tawnis Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 45 minutes ago, Tacitus said: BA: New Sanguinary Guard Kit The current one is only 2 years old. Granted it was a poor replacement for the previous incarnation but GW won't replace something that new. Besides, they look OK with a sprinkling of 3rd party add-ons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 I see you're missing a "Divergent Chapter" in the thread... So Deathwatch need an updated Watch Captain (can be same stats, just new model) and probably another named character unit, maybe a specialised Psyker like they used to have. Also, a new upgrade sprue with some DW shoulder pads, Fancy decor bits and a few DW themed weapon variants. Also honourable mention for DW in the form of a direly needed unit: A dedicated Melee Killteam, since if the Firstborn DW Vets go to Legends or get folded into the Killteam Killteam the faction loses it's fan favourite melee brick. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 On 8/27/2026 at 1:29 PM, Tawnis said: Both Raven Guard characters have jump packs, I don't see why both White Scars Characters can't have bikes? I don't think will get another named character unless all the "codex complaint" chapters get one, and that just happened. (Unless Jaghatai (or another Primarch) comes back) I agree on the second point, I'm sure we'll eventually get that unit, I just hope it's soon. I think GW regrets that. I suspect Shrike is going to evaporate sooner or later for a different likely Phobos or Terminator armored dude. Phobos for the other half of their "iconic" army or Terminator for their fluffy but black sheep side. On 8/27/2026 at 1:50 PM, Karhedron said: The current one is only 2 years old. Granted it was a poor replacement for the previous incarnation but GW won't replace something that new. Besides, they look OK with a sprinkling of 3rd party add-ons. I didn't realize they'd already crossed the Rubicon and have Mark X Jump Packs. Replacing something that new isn't common, but its not unheard of. In that case maybe a Baal Gladiator though the Reaper is already pretty close. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 4 hours ago, Indy Techwisp said: I see you're missing a "Divergent Chapter" in the thread... So Deathwatch need an updated Watch Captain (can be same stats, just new model) and probably another named character unit, maybe a specialised Psyker like they used to have. Also, a new upgrade sprue with some DW shoulder pads, Fancy decor bits and a few DW themed weapon variants. Also honourable mention for DW in the form of a direly needed unit: A dedicated Melee Killteam, since if the Firstborn DW Vets go to Legends or get folded into the Killteam Killteam the faction loses it's fan favourite melee brick. Deathwatch is unlikely to get anything is my guess. They're barely still supported as is. Most of their bespoke stuff is or has already gone away. They're really just shoulderpad blisters now that the Blackstar is likely going away with the flyers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 If we are wishlisting: Blood Angels: Lysander (last survivor of the Bloodquest), 10th company captian Sergant Rafen Iron Snakes: Chief Librarian Nector Lexicanum Petrok (maybe hi has risen in rank?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 I really have no idea what units Black Templars might get this edition, unlike the other chapters we never had an ongoing set of updates so we really got our whole range updated from the 4th edition miniatures in the 9th ed update so whatever else comes in the future is just going to be totally new BUT they could take a page from older unit entries... I am expecting BA to get their own bespoke Terminators even if its just a reskin like they used to have in 6th(?) so that would leave Templars as the only chapter without their own Terminators so I expect to see Sword Brethren Terminators as a new kit, it used to be a unit in 4th so why not bring them back? Crusader squads on bikes used to be a thing way back when, now that Outriders are getting a new kit and its the "Fast attack edition" I could totally see this unit return, I mean all it needs is a new Scouts on Bikes and just mash them together with the Outrider in a single unit entry. Black Templar Chaplains used to be able to buy Servitors as wargear and become mini Grimalduses so why not update that idea? Bring it back as a version of the Company Heroes, a Chaplain, instead of a Captain, leading a couple of marines and maybe a Servitor or another marine holding a relic. Speaking of Command Squads I'd love to see Helbrecht get his own version of Command squad back, it was essentially a normal Command squad plus 5 Neophytes and a banner so why not bring that back too? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 15 hours ago, Tacitus said: Deathwatch is unlikely to get anything is my guess. They're barely still supported as is. Most of their bespoke stuff is or has already gone away. They're really just shoulderpad blisters now that the Blackstar is likely going away with the flyers. The Blackstar just got highlighted in the Warhammer Academy video, so I doubt it's going away any time soon. Also Deathwatch have been a focus faction for quite a few things now and are going to be the main focus faction for the upcoming TV series. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 9 hours ago, Indy Techwisp said: The Blackstar just got highlighted in the Warhammer Academy video, so I doubt it's going away any time soon. Also Deathwatch have been a focus faction for quite a few things now and are going to be the main focus faction for the upcoming TV series. I'm pretty sure all the AIRCRAFT are going away. Some may stick around as "normal" Flying Transport/Tanks like Flacons/WaveSerpents. But the AIRCRAFT and Anti-Aircraft like the Hunter/Stalker are gone. I think AIRCRAFT join them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathe Biosas Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 18 minutes ago, Tacitus said: I'm pretty sure all the AIRCRAFT are going away. Some may stick around as "normal" Flying Transport/Tanks like Flacons/WaveSerpents. But the AIRCRAFT and Anti-Aircraft like the Hunter/Stalker are gone. I think AIRCRAFT join them. Why did Orks just get a Aircraft Detachment in their new Codex? I think aircraft will get a refresh/redesign. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 Don’t know about divergent Chapters, but will always hold up my hand for anything for the obscure ones. The recent transfer sheets given in White Dwarf were nice, but didn’t offer enough variety for my liking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 46 minutes ago, Felix Antipodes said: Don’t know about divergent Chapters, but will always hold up my hand for anything for the obscure ones. The recent transfer sheets given in White Dwarf were nice, but didn’t offer enough variety for my liking. You can reuse the Blood Ravens symbol for your own things with just a change of background and/or the direction the raven flies. And the blood drop is not that hard to paint over, giving you even more choices. Lathe Biosas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 10 hours ago, Lathe Biosas said: Why did Orks just get a Aircraft Detachment in their new Codex? I think aircraft will get a refresh/redesign. Because you're confusing Aircraft with AIRCRAFT. Defkoptas are aircraft, but they are not AIRCRAFT. Yes the Detachment also covers the Dakka Jets and such but I suspect its the first phase test bed for going forward and flipping the AIRCRAFT into normal flyers. A number of AIRCRAFT would probably be better off just being FLYERS like they used to be - basically Hover Mode or some sort of hybrid that lets them play a full game and stay on the board easier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorin Helm-splitter Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 I think for space wolves' long fangs & a rune priest should be their priority. Bjorn is a bit more complicated imo, I don't think they should bring Russ back, and if they don't, they should absolutely upscale him. Granted I just don't trust GW to stick landing if they bring Russ back, so I'm pretty biased. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6184926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 On 8/30/2026 at 3:57 AM, Tacitus said: I'm pretty sure all the AIRCRAFT are going away. Some may stick around as "normal" Flying Transport/Tanks like Flacons/WaveSerpents. But the AIRCRAFT and Anti-Aircraft like the Hunter/Stalker are gone. I think AIRCRAFT join them. The Blackstar already lost the Aircraft keyword and is a flying transport with decent guns. Which tbf is basically what it was used as anyway. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6185324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 On 8/31/2026 at 5:09 AM, Jorin Helm-splitter said: I think for space wolves' long fangs & a rune priest should be their priority. Bjorn is a bit more complicated imo, I don't think they should bring Russ back, and if they don't, they should absolutely upscale him. Granted I just don't trust GW to stick landing if they bring Russ back, so I'm pretty biased. I don't know about Long Fangs. Devastators are gone (not even a Legends entry) and Wolves have access to the various Primaris fire support units that have succeded them (Hellblasters, Eradicators, Desolators etc). I would love to see Bjorn upgraded to a Redemptor chassis with a Macro Hellfrost cannon but we shall have to wait and see. I would love to see Russ come back, both from a model and lore point of view. GW knocked the Lion out of the park in both model and rules terms so I will keep my fingers crossed. Having said that, I don't think that we will see Russ anytime soon. Logan came on a Primarch-sized base and has a tactical rock so large he stands right up there with Guilliman and the Lion. I think that he is our Primarch-equivalent for the foreseeable future. Gamiel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6185330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 On 8/31/2026 at 5:09 AM, Jorin Helm-splitter said: I think for space wolves' long fangs & a rune priest should be their priority. Was there ever a generic Rune Priest in PA model? The only one I can remember (apart from Njal) is the TDA version. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6185405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 (edited) I would have thought SB terminators would be a good new unit for the Black Templars. Like Ultramarines, I would prefer a new unit for Black Templars over another character if Im honest. Edited September 3 by Subtleknife redmapa and Karhedron 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388436-new-kit-speculation-for-divergent-chapters/#findComment-6185423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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