Gamiel Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I don't get the Death Company comparison to the Legion of the Damned, since the DC have not been depicted with a bigger skulle/bone/death theme than other space marine forces, what marked them out was their different colour from the rest of their chapter and all the x:es on their armour and bands tied around their limbs. Metzombie, Antarius, phandaal and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 38 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said: So having an entire unit of Marines with skull faces and ribs on their torsos could potentially obscure the presence of a Chaplain hiding in the middle of the blob. No, the Chaplain would be obvious by his crozius. phandaal and MoriyaSchism 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoriyaSchism Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 35 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said: There is a reason I said "ribcage like pattern". You are correct that only 2 have the Rib pattern coloured like ribs on the official colour scheme, but I've seen plenty of Chaplain models used in games where that rib design on the Armour was painted like ribs official colour scheme be damned. So having an entire unit of Marines with skull faces and ribs on their torsos could potentially obscure the presence of a Chaplain hiding in the middle of the blob. The geometric rib pattern seen on some of the chaplains looks like black armour at a distance. It doesn't stand out that much. Most chaplains today have gold detailing on their shoulders and legs to make them stand out more. Black armour with white on top, gold on the bottom. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corswain Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Matcap86 said: Another random wildcard: Plastic Valdor model for Horus Heresy? He was in the intro for the new edition and they usually base that on model releases. I'd buy that. The resin version is one of the few Character Series I don't care for. I think it's a huge longshot though. Matcap86 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarius Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I don't think you can necessarily say that preferrring either take on LotD is wrong, but I'll at least say that I think there is a whole lot of death imagery on a lot of 40K minis, so for my money I don't feel like they're stepping on other units' toes. MoriyaSchism and Gamiel 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbarad Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Curious what Custodes will get - if anything - beyond the Aquilon Terminators that GW already accidentally revealed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoriyaSchism Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 7 minutes ago, Antarius said: I don't think you can necessarily say that preferrring either take on LotD is wrong, but I'll at least say that I think there is a whole lot of death imagery on a lot of 40K minis, so for my money I don't feel like they're stepping on other units' toes. Dark Reapers, Immortals, Reivers, Death Jesters, Death Company, Space Wolf Deathsworn, Chaplains and Legion of the Damned. Did I forget anyone? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 4 minutes ago, Antarius said: I don't think you can necessarily say that preferrring either take on LotD is wrong, but I'll at least say that I think there is a whole lot of death imagery on a lot of 40K minis, so for my money I don't feel like they're stepping on other units' toes. Yeah. Never in my life have I seen or heard anyone say they were confused about Legion of the Damned looking like something else. So this is a new one for me. To be honest, modern GW prices + my dislike for new 40k units being released as Kill Team bundles + my ability to 3D print as many upscaled LotD as I want mean this is mostly academic for me anyway. It would just be nice to see the classic styling continue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jscarlos18 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 13 minutes ago, Borbarad said: Curious what Custodes will get - if anything - beyond the Aquilon Terminators that GW already accidentally revealed. Probably nothing else since their HH kits can now be used for 40k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVoidDragon Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 On 9/14/2026 at 6:10 PM, Doghouse said: It'd be nice if they Legion of the Damned were older marks but I think they will be manifested in the newer Tacticus armour I think and probably ruined with loads of unnecessary three dimensional flames and warp effects rather than just cover them in bones and stuff. I think they're almost certainly going to be made into Primaris, unfortunately. Even the Sanguinor was upgraded to Mark X. Something I won't be too fond of as part of that is it'll probably in some ways show what the Legion of the Damned actually are. There's a level of mystery to them on if they're they're still physically Space Marines (Just trapped and affected by whatever happened) or if they're more of a warp entity of some kind overall. If they're all shown as being Primaris, then that implies they're more towards being warp entities as it's not as if they'd have the resources and capabilities to do that ordinarily. LSM, Doghouse and Antarius 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Longinus Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 4 minutes ago, TheVoidDragon said: I think they're almost certainly going to be made into Primaris, unfortunately. Even the Sanguinor was upgraded to Mark X. Something I won't be too fond of as part of that is it'll probably in some ways show what the Legion of the Damned actually are. There's a level of mystery to them on if they're they're still physically Space Marines (Just trapped and affected by whatever happened) or if they're more of a warp entity of some kind overall. If they're all shown as being Primaris, then that implies they're more towards being warp entities as it's not as if they'd have the resources and capabilities to do that ordinarily. It just implies that the art style has evolved. Don't overthink it. And Sanguinor does not have any obvious MkX features, he is just dedwarfivied and has some detail differences. ThaneOfTas and Gamiel 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathe Biosas Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Borbarad said: Curious what Custodes will get - if anything - beyond the Aquilon Terminators that GW already accidentally revealed. Im hoping for new characters in the new style. Perhaps a named hero to replace Valerian or Valoris. Casual Heresy 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSM Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, Indy Techwisp said: Also, consider that there are quite a few people playing warhammer now who only know of the LotD as the "Flaming Skeleton Ghost Rider Marines" because they didn't exist when the LotD were just Black Armoured Marines with Flame Decals. Yeah, this is my big thing (and why, while I will constantly bring it up, I'm not actually advocating for adherence to that original style). I may prefer the LotD from my childhood... but whenever I see other people sharing their conversions, etc, over the last few editions, it has always been the "ghost rider" skeleton-Marines wreathed in warpfire. While I do want a "classic" kit... if I were in charge of the range, I'd definitely be telling the sculptors to do the "ghost rider" sculpted on-fire skeliemens. (Aside: I do wonder if at some point someone got the lore of the Cursed Founding's Fire Hawks - the Chapter which got a psychic warp disease and became the Legion of the Damned - and the lore of the Cursed Founding's Flame Falcons - the Chapter which had a mutation that caused them to psychically immolate during combat and became purged by the Grey Knights - mixed together. I know that I occasionally have to think about which is the old LotD, "was it the Fire Hawks or the Flame Falcons?".) Edited September 18 by LSM DemonGSides and Mechanicus Tech-Support 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathe Biosas Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I was thinking that if the LotD is just space marines in armour with painted flames, won't they just be black armoured Salamanders? (Since the Sallys are all about the flame motif) I think you have to go all Ghost Rider to make them really stand out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 27 minutes ago, TheVoidDragon said: I think they're almost certainly going to be made into Primaris, unfortunately. Even the Sanguinor was upgraded to Mark X. Sanguinor is 100% not in MKX armour. His armour is nothing like it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Ideally, the kit would come with enough pauldron / head options to do the more Ghost Rider-esque, flaming design. That said, I could also easily see them having the armour as fairly plain in of itself, and instead focusing on painting tutorials for flames. They've put out more than a few simple but effective tutorials for flames and magma in the last few years; the Salamanders tutorial for Heresy 3E comes to mind. (Can't locate the flames tutorial at the moment, but here's the magma one.) Lathe Biosas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWarmaster Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, MoriyaSchism said: Dark Reapers, Immortals, Reivers, Death Jesters, Death Company, Space Wolf Deathsworn, Chaplains and Legion of the Damned. Did I forget anyone? Mephiston. Lord of Death. Death Guard. Dante’s death mask of Sanguinius. Death Korps of Krieg. Death Riders. So much death. Gamiel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathe Biosas Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Only 3 hours to go.... Then all will be revea.... oh... sorry had a technical proble... I think it's fixed now. As I was sayi.... Sarges, phandaal, Mechanicus Tech-Support and 6 others 9 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 2 minutes ago, Lathe Biosas said: Only 3 hours to go.... Then all will be revea.... oh... sorry had a technical proble... I think it's fixed now. As I was sayi.... Thankfully being an in-house stream should limit it. Their technical issues mostly seem to occur when they're at events, which may be why they're rarely hosted at them now. Lathe Biosas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamiel Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 45 minutes ago, TheVoidDragon said: I think they're almost certainly going to be made into Primaris, unfortunately. Even the Sanguinor was upgraded to Mark X. Something I won't be too fond of as part of that is it'll probably in some ways show what the Legion of the Damned actually are. There's a level of mystery to them on if they're they're still physically Space Marines (Just trapped and affected by whatever happened) or if they're more of a warp entity of some kind overall. If they're all shown as being Primaris, then that implies they're more towards being warp entities as it's not as if they'd have the resources and capabilities to do that ordinarily. Or it could mean that they got their hands on primaris tech from a torchbearer ship lost in the warp. And they have not stopped recruting after becoming the LotD. LSM 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 LVO and awful AV support has been a standard for far too long at this stage. It's honestly insane that they've tolerated that year after year. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSM Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 19 minutes ago, Lathe Biosas said: I was thinking that if the LotD is just space marines in armour with painted flames, won't they just be black armoured Salamanders? (Since the Sallys are all about the flame motif) I think you have to go all Ghost Rider to make them really stand out. Yeah, though (classically) lots of Space Marines had rad flames painted on their armour. Blood Angels, Salamanders, Thousand Sons, Emperor's Children... All the cool kids. It was the late 80s/early 90s; flames were totally radical, gnarly, and... jawsome? (Wait... are Space Marines gene-slammed?) phandaal, Dr. Clock, Gamiel and 3 others 3 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarius Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 48 minutes ago, TheWarmaster said: Mephiston. Lord of Death. Death Guard. Dante’s death mask of Sanguinius. Death Korps of Krieg. Death Riders. So much death. Plus of course the fact that everybody in 40k practically has skull iconography and/or actual skulls out the wazoo. DemonGSides, Gamiel and LSM 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, MoriyaSchism said: Dark Reapers, Immortals, Reivers, Death Jesters, Death Company, Space Wolf Deathsworn, Chaplains and Legion of the Damned. Did I forget anyone? How could you forget the Death Skulls?! Edited September 18 by 01RTB01 Typo phandaal and Gamiel 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVoidDragon Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Crimson Longinus said: It just implies that the art style has evolved. Don't overthink it. And Sanguinor does not have any obvious MkX features, he is just dedwarfivied and has some detail differences. It doesn't just imply the art style has "evolved" if they are specifically decisions to represent them as having Mark X by including the features of that armour pattern rather than going for the earlier versions as they did with something like Red Corsairs. MoriyaSchism and ThaneOfTas 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388526-big-autumn-warhammer-preview-friday-18th-7pm-bst/page/6/#findComment-6187564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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