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Listening to the books it describes a lot of Space Marines being hit by munitions that basically evaporate them. When this happens they lose a gene seed. Do they have a bank of gene seed they aren’t using because of the codex chapter limits? Do they have a way of making more? Or are we slowly moving towards a day where we’ve run out of gene seeds?

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7 minutes ago, Brother Lutheriel said:

Listening to the books it describes a lot of Space Marines being hit by munitions that basically evaporate them. When this happens they lose a gene seed. Do they have a bank of gene seed they aren’t using because of the codex chapter limits? Do they have a way of making more? Or are we slowly moving towards a day where we’ve run out of gene seeds?

 

They usually have a decent supply of geneseed. The problem becomes an issue when you lose your base of operations.

 

There are all sorts of stories of Space Marine Chapters that were dying off because they lost too many marines to attrition and their geneseed supplies were too few (like the Blood Ravens).

 

The Primaris / Greyshield resupply from the Torchbearer fleets fixed a lot of problems for Chapters that were barely hanging on due to misfortune, wars, or traitorous Iron Hands attacking them.*

 

 

 

*The thieving Iron Hands Chapter attacked the loyalist chapter of the Hospitallers and blew up their flagship, to cover the theft of a Dreadnought... that they didn't even need.

Every Marine generates/grows two gene-seed. One is easily accessible, and is removed at the earliest possible point, allowing to maintain numbers. The second is located is a precarious position, and is usually removed upon death. The second one allows them tool replace lost gene-seed and pay Mar's gene-tithe.

 

On 9/20/2026 at 1:53 AM, kabaakaba said:

Don't forget they can produce mode by seeding it into "volunteers" and later harvest twice(Volunteers obviously die during procedure) 

To give a little more specifics, the Geneseed itself is the Progenoid Glands. one is located in the neck and is harvested after about 5 years of the marine making the full genetic transformation, the second gland resides in the chest cavity and is usually only harvested after death. However, gene seed farming can occur in two ways, once the marine has his full developed progenoid removed from his neck, a new seed can be placed in its place and thus "Farmed". This is likely what low strength chapters do to slowly rebuild, because while there are geneseed vaults on mars, chapters outside of the 1st and 2nd foundings would struggle to get mars to give any up outside a new founding. 

 

But aspirants being used to farm it is also a possibility but as mentioned it burns through potential aspirants as they are not fully developed marines and cannot survive multiple implantations. If you have a wealth of aspirants then go for it, but its not likely the way they do it.

 

The Imperial Fists have mastered the art of gene-seed farming and it is why they can take such heavy losses and rebound so quickly. They likely learned this accelerated process during the seige of Cthonia given how they were mass producing marines their and kept the process a "trade secret."

 

During/after the heresy, loyalists of traitors legions likely had their progenoids harvested and destroyed and were likely implanted with new ones. They them selves would still keep the attributes of their former legions but the new progenoid glands would develop differently. This is possibly what lead to geneseed degenration or chimeric geneseeds. This is why i dont like the idea of "loyal traitors" because even if they were allowed to continue in their service, their geneseed absolutely would have been harvested and destroyed, likely even making them go through the dangerous process of removing the chest one. There is NO WAY right after the heresy the imperium/loyalists would just let traitor/loyalist keep their gene-seed. just my humble opinion.

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