BrightStarNova Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Say a new Chapter is starting out. Where do they get the inspiration for their banners? Also, which banners would have special stuff, and which would have mainly the Chapter's Symbol? Please help with any info concerning making banners. ** Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/79092-on-making-banners/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironloki Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Normally inspiration comes from their home planet (i.e creatures) and the other is heroic acts. I.e the Ultra's have a nid on one of theirs after they "won" at maccrage. Also they have one of a bionic hand in memory of their deceased famous captain IIRC :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/79092-on-making-banners/#findComment-912133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Say a new Chapter is starting out. Where do they get the inspiration for their banners? Also, which banners would have special stuff, and which would have mainly the Chapter's Symbol? Please help with any info concerning making banners. ** <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Starting out the chapter would have some very generic banners that would follow the parent chapters view of the Codex Astartes. As they partake in battles, those engagements that take on an epic scale or have a particularyly noteworthy event can be memorialized by creating a special banner depicting that event. Like in the manner of the Ultramarines. These special banners would be held by the Standard Bearers to represent a Company or Battle Force. The Chapter Symbol would be present on all banners. My two coppers Belial out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/79092-on-making-banners/#findComment-912136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightStarNova Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Say a new Chapter is starting out. Where do they get the inspiration for their banners? Also, which banners would have special stuff, and which would have mainly the Chapter's Symbol? Please help with any info concerning making banners. ** <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Starting out the chapter would have some very generic banners that would follow the parent chapters view of the Codex Astartes. As they partake in battles, those engagements that take on an epic scale or have a particularyly noteworthy event can be memorialized by creating a special banner depicting that event. Like in the manner of the Ultramarines. These special banners would be held by the Standard Bearers to represent a Company or Battle Force. The Chapter Symbol would be present on all banners. My two coppers Belial out. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So a basic banner. Would they have the Parent Chapter/Legion's Banner, Their Own Generic Banner of the Chapter Color and Symbol, or a combo of their Banner Symbol and the Banner of the Parent Chapter? ** Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/79092-on-making-banners/#findComment-912140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 So a basic banner. Would they have the Parent Chapter/Legion's Banner, Their Own Generic Banner of the Chapter Color and Symbol, or a combo of their Banner Symbol and the Banner of the Parent Chapter? ** <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not knowing which Parent Chapter/Legion you plan on using is keeping me a little more general than I like. If your avatar is any indication then you'll want to stick to the Codex Astartes. Off the top of my head, you'll probably want to look at the Ultramatines Reserve Company Banners. They are simple and lacking lustre. The only differences will be the color and the company symbol. The rest would look identical from company to company. Until they create a symbolic standard. Now to confuse you, as a new chapter they can deviate completely and generate their own company banners. Example Animagus Marines - Brown Armour w/ Yellow - Symbol an upturned hand with claws Eagle Company - 1st - Brown Banner with White Eagle with a yellow box in the upper left containing the Chapter Symbol Dog Company - 2nd - Brown Banner with Red Dog with a yellow box in the upper left containing the Chapter Symbol Bear Company - 3rd - Brown Banner with Yellow Bear with a yellow box in the upper left containing the Chapter Symbol Simple and yet it conveys the Chapter and Company on one banner. Eventually the Animagus Marines's Dog Company fights the Ork's and they get a new banner. Brown Banner with Red Border and in the middle is a Dog bearing the Yellow Chapter Symbol biting the neck of an Ork. Did this help any? Otherwise I'll have to do some research and get back to you when I get off work. Belial Out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/79092-on-making-banners/#findComment-912179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightStarNova Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 So do they feature the Parent Chapter's Symbol, such as the Fist or Omega, or do they replace it with their own. Example: Imperial Fists: Yellow BackGround, with a Fist in the middle. Would the New Chapter Use its own color with a fist in the corner and the main symbol in the centre, or would they totally replace the fist with their own symbol? ** Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/79092-on-making-banners/#findComment-912188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion in the Stars Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 The CF chaptermaster that they made for the current USWD has a back banner with the Imperial Fist on it as well as the Crimson Fist, but I don't really like that idea. A military unit's heraldry should be unique to that unit, not a copy of their 'progenator' unit's. IMO, go for a fairly plain banner with your chapter's heraldry on it. When you have a spectacular event, make a new banner. Ideally, your banner will be just attached to the crossbar, so that you can exchange them as you desire (my DA standards are put together that way). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/79092-on-making-banners/#findComment-912234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 So do they feature the Parent Chapter's Symbol, such as the Fist or Omega, or do they replace it with their own. Example: Imperial Fists: Yellow BackGround, with a Fist in the middle. Would the New Chapter Use its own color with a fist in the corner and the main symbol in the centre, or would they totally replace the fist with their own symbol? ** <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, they should replace it with their own. I haven't seen any Marine Chapter banner that took after the British trend of putting the Union Jack in the corner of their colony's flag (New Zealand, Australia). Belial Out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/79092-on-making-banners/#findComment-912245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightStarNova Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 Animus Orbitus, My Chief Librarian, has his own banner. Here is how I made /am making His Banner.: WHFB Empire Flag/Banner, Mordheim Blade, and Mordheim Open/closed Book. So Since His Sword is in the left side of the banner, the book in Lower Middle Right, His Name in Lower Right, and the Chapter Symbol in the Upper Right. How is that? ** Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/79092-on-making-banners/#findComment-912286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash3w Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Well, mine was kind of obvious considering that my army is based around a musketeer theme. My Banner came out something like this. The Bottom literally says "Legion of Accurate Soldier" And the top two badges contain the Motto "Strengh and Accuracy" I know it's pretty ugly, but it gets the job done. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/hactardac/coolbeans.jpg Chapter name: The Trueshot Musketeers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/79092-on-making-banners/#findComment-912289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Animus Orbitus, My Chief Librarian, has his own banner. Here is how I made /am making His Banner.: WHFB Empire Flag/Banner, Mordheim Blade, and Mordheim Open/closed Book. So Since His Sword is in the left side of the banner, the book in Lower Middle Right, His Name in Lower Right, and the Chapter Symbol in the Upper Right. How is that? ** <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sounds Good. If you want, you can put his name on some scroll work (Like the Land Raider's) and drap it over the design. Just a Suggestion, Good Work! :devil: Belial out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/79092-on-making-banners/#findComment-912291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrightStarNova Posted July 7, 2005 Author Share Posted July 7, 2005 To make the Sword seem Holy and Glowing, what color should I use on the banner? The Skull Hilt is Bleached Bone, The Actual Hilt is Gold, and the Blade Itself is Silver. I was thinking Ice Blue for the Glow, since Gold seems cool, but might mix with the Hilt in the Design. ** Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/79092-on-making-banners/#findComment-912308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 To make the Sword seem Holy and Glowing, what color should I use on the banner? The Skull Hilt is Bleached Bone, The Actual Hilt is Gold, and the Blade Itself is Silver. I was thinking Ice Blue for the Glow, since Gold seems cool, but might mix with the Hilt in the Design. ** <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Another suggestion is a couple light coats of white paint on the edges and middle. If your painting skills are up to it then you can try a Non-Metallic Metal (NMM). Another suggestion was to make the blade blaze with Red fade to yellow/white. I saw one in another thread. Belial Out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/79092-on-making-banners/#findComment-912618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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