Det Gr Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 What do we know about the fourth founding, exactly? I'm in the midst of a fluff project involving the Marines Malevolent, and need to find out as much as I can about this founding for my work. Any information you can provide, is greatly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironloki Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I doubt there is very much about it. I think only generally the Dark founding, Cursed founding and second foundings are known, the rest are a mystery. What do you mean anyway? Are you wanting a time period or reason for the founding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det Gr Posted August 4, 2005 Author Share Posted August 4, 2005 Both reason and time would do good. I want to have a definite starting point for my fluff to spring from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I would guesstimate that the 4th founding took place not that long after the 3rd. The 3rd took place on the first day of M32, so your probably looking around the 300's. Most chapters are founded because somewhere needs more men. Ferrata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoon Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I placed the 4th founding (keep in mind that is only in my fevered mind and is not official in any way) as the first day of 001M33, thinking that it might have followed in the tradition of the third founding, and may have been a celebration of sorts of humanity's continued existance in the face of chaos. It sounded good to me at least :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 While your theory sounds fine on its own, you need to place it in context with other founding dates. The 21st Founding is the next one we have a date for, M36. By your theory this should only be the 7th Founding, so your missing around 14 foundings. My way was taking the years between known founding dates and dividing them by the number of foundinds needed to be placed. While this might not give you the right dates, it gives you a good area to start from. Ferrata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubal Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 As Ferrata said, there has to be about 2 or three foundings per millennium for the number to add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeothar Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 The Fiery Lions are of the 7th founding. I placed this in the year 501.M31, because according to my logic, the first foundings were very very close to eachother. Reasoning behind this is that after the 2nd founding, there (still) was an enormous shortage of marines to cover the entire Imperium (they just lost over half their Marine force!). Therefore, a large amount of chapters were created to participate in the Great Scouring and the safeguarding of the worlds of the (new) Imperium. This was a very tumultuous time for the Imperium, so when the dust settled and a status quo was reached (well, sort of anyway) there was a less pressing need for marine chapters and foundings started to come further apart. So, even though I think dividing the time between know foundings and spreading the in-between chapters accordingly is a good idea, it is my opinion that the first 10 or so foundings should be very close to eachother, very soon after the 2nd. An added piece of 'evidence' for this theory is that the 13th founding was such a failure; perhaps they got a bit rusty doing it after so many years without a founding and screwed up because of lack of experience (cutting corners, misreading instructional tomes/files)? (13 actually being a lucky number instead of a bad-luck one...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I cheated with my Castigators... I didn't refer to it by date, simply saying my chapter was created in the 14th Founding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 daeothar It worked out roughly at 222 years between foundings from the 3rd to the 21st. Maybe it would make more sense to have the early ones closer, with the laters ones further apart. After the 21st, its a millenium between foundings, so your theory is correct. Ferrata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubal Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I cheated with my Castigators... I didn't refer to it by date, simply saying my chapter was created in the 14th Founding.My chapters early history is lost :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krooter Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Ask Chaplain Desmondus if you want Marine Maleviolent info. As for the FOurth Foundig, I have no idea. I doubt there is very much about it. I think only generally the Dark founding, Cursed founding and second foundings are known, the rest are a mystery. :D Nothing is known about the Dark Founding so I don't think that counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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