Beornling 3.1415 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 well basically after painting two out of my small fleet of Landspeeders, setting up my "vet. squad" as an elite powersword and bolt or plas pistol equiped close combat force. (using the Lizard man bits), using more lizard bits for plating on the speeders, and for heardy, converting the libby's cloth into a jaguar pelt, and working out the basic orange and white paint sceme along with spot patterns. I'm using a feathered serpent motif for the landspeeders (green body, white wings, and using ultra fine (.1mm) hard felt tip pens to draw scales, feathers, a reptillian "eye" on each side, and painting the guidance vane blood red with another lizard bit on top of the search light (so that it looks like an extended tung). I've got my doctirine down (see but no seen, stealthy attack, tank hunter and infiltrate for the devestator squads), using the speeders as close air support. I've created their homeworld as being full of ruins of those anchient xenos that created the slaan/lizardmen. I've got regular foes here in Yosemite (1k sons, black legion, and Necrons, along with one guy playing ECs) I can't figure out bloodline (who they are descended from) or a good name. sorry for my spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironloki Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Hmmm. It doesn't really matter what geneseed you use. Ultra is common Fists can't spit acid or hibernate Blood Angels - Rage Raven Guard - Albino White Scars - Seems normal Salamanders - normal I would perhaps use white scars just for variety. As for names perhaps look for similar names amongst the Lizardman range :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beornling 3.1415 Posted September 2, 2005 Author Share Posted September 2, 2005 well since my force is mostly infiltrate and dismounted, and using 3 speeders as the only vehicles, wilst turning the elite "vet squad" into an assault squad from heck, I'm wondering if any chapters have special rules that would allow me more of the rapid deploy assulty with lizard bits, and more speeders for close air support. Since under escalation I can Deep strike both the Vets with jump packs, and the speeders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimdarkness Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Raven guard can but they have a jungel fighting Succeser in the raptor's but i think there traits can allow what you want good luck with it. Grimm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironloki Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Sounds like Raven Guard but geneseed only portrays genetic stuff while training is what defines their combat doctrine. So Geneseed is perhaps eye colour, hair, mutations, while being trained by Raven guard would teach them infiltration etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majahe Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 How about Salamanders, given the lizard influences? The traits are quite different, but they could still take on the darker skin tones etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Belial Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 How about Salamanders, given the lizard influences? The traits are quite different, but they could still take on the darker skin tones etc. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I didn't think the Salamanders have enough genestock for a successor. Being they only have seven companies. I could be wrong. Have you looked into Aztec or Mayan books for inspiriation for a name? Though I would not go for one of their long names. It'll get truncated. Belial out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator_of_Bahamut Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 What traits did you choose specifically? Since they're not heavy on fast attack, I guess we can't go with WHite scars, though they would fit the totemic nature (eagle warriors, jaguar warriors) of many Aztec units. The tendency of the Aztecs to use bloody rituals and human sacrifice, however, says Blood Angels to me. I don't have all my Meso-American anthropology books here, or that would help, but I bet you can find a celver way to incorprate the black rage....maybe they picked it up from conquistadors? -_- Names, however, are another matter. The Aztecs mythology is a rich one, but Nahuatl is a very tricky language as far as pronunciations go. Try doing some research, though, and see if you can't find a god or animal in their mythology that inspires you. Maybe the English name would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 The Salamanders have seven companies because of the seven major settlements on Nocturne. Each of their seven companies are larger than those in a traiditional ten-company chapter. It's theorised that many chapters, including but not limited to the Black Dragons and the Storm Giants, are Salamander successors. Also, whilst talking of blood rituals, don't forget that the White Scars themselves have some quite bloody rituals - that's why they have extensive facial scars. Because they took a knife and scarred themselves, before rubbing ash from the camp fires into the open wounds. As for names, if you're doing something particularly aztec, consider something like '(Animal) Warriors' - the animal you choose is up to you. Or, considering the feathering on your landspeeders, something like Jade Falcons/Eagles would be equally opportune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 You could try the "Feathered Snakes" as that is what one of their main gods was called (something like Quaziteitl or something -_- ). As for seed, unless your wanting the gene-seed to play any part in your fluff just go Ultramarine. It doesnt really add much to your chapter, but it doesnt make your chapter one of the sterio-typical succesor chapters. Ferrata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 That's Quetzalcoatl -_-. Though personally, Feathered Serpents would perhaps be better. Snakes conjure images of deceit and trickery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 That's Quetzalcoatl . Though personally, Feathered Serpents would perhaps be better. Snakes conjure images of deceit and trickery I was close -_- Feathered Serpents does sound better Ferrata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator_of_Bahamut Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 I had already thought of using Quetzalcouatl, or even just the couatl name. With orange and white, though, that would look funny. They would need some sort of reptillian color...or a swim in brake fluid, to look good with a name like "feathered serpents." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beornling 3.1415 Posted September 3, 2005 Author Share Posted September 3, 2005 actually the Landspeeders are already painted in a green and white scheme, if I could afford a T-hawk it would get the same Feathered Serpent or Coutl paint job. The primary ground troops have the jaguar or Tezcat. paint job, since their inspiration is the god of deception, War and stealth also known as "Dark Quetzcoutl" the sun disk, also represent the Emperor, thus all of their flying craft have that paint sceme. Mind you Ultras would be fitting in a way. Back when I was in college we had a lot of Ultra beekies, that got converted to the original jaguar knights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator_of_Bahamut Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 You can't add green to the troops? That would fit, green white and orange. What shade green btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beornling 3.1415 Posted September 3, 2005 Author Share Posted September 3, 2005 on the vehicles it's a mix of scaly and dark angel with scales drawn on, the underside it's a mix of scaly and orky/snot green. hmmm... Purhaps emerald green on the eye shields and the trim., as the original plan was to make the ground troops the Jaguar aspect, wilst the close air support and assualt marines would be the Eagle/Feathered serpent aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicili Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 Hmm for a name,why not use Jaguars in it. I no that Mayans were obsessed with this animal, since it was the most dangerous animal in the area. a few names ive come up with: Jaguars of the Sun Jaguars of Azatlan (mythical homeland for the Aztecs) Herons of the Sun ('Aztec' {origin of the word} -Probably from Aztatl (heron), and Tlacatl (man),"people of the heron") Herons of Azatlan Herons or Jaguars of Tikal (Large Capital for Mayans) " " Tenoch (founder of the Aztecs) " " Nahuatl (sun god, could be changed to be pronouced easier) Also, veteran warriors were called Jaguar Knights or Jaguar Warriors, hmm Elite choice names maybe? Sacrifices and Cannibalism were common in Aztec cultures, maybe Blood Angels might be a good geneseed? Depends on how far you want to go... -Nic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beornling 3.1415 Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 Well since I'm using sundisks for chapter symbols and for the battle standard. the _____ of the Sun sounds really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Librarian- Melechor Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Children? Warriors? Legion? There are many things you can fill that in with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beornling 3.1415 Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 Warriors of the Sun sounds sutibly space marine ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator_of_Bahamut Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 I dunno, maybe a tad cliche. Sounds kinda like the name of a sunbathing league. At least you're not calling them the Sons of the Sun, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beornling 3.1415 Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 I dunno, maybe a tad cliche. Sounds kinda like the name of a sunbathing league. At least you're not calling them the Sons of the Sun, though. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> just so long as they don't think we're related to other groups called the "sons" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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