Blindhamster Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 <<<important> this was originally posted in the BA forum. however i decided it might be worth posting it all here for as much feedback as possible.>> alrite folks, here me im going to ramble on a little then show some pictures, nothings really painted quite yet as i broke my glasses so quite simply im making a blood angels terminator army using Deathwing rules of course, this seriously makes things harder in some ways, the lack of unit choices really moves away from how many BA armies are created. I want to create the 'feel' of blood angels though this army. Now i dont care abou points quite yet, im more interested in getting and building everything that i want, I'll create an army list from there HQ I will be using a Librarian and captain in a single HQ with a command squad, weapons here will be as much geared towards CC as i can, while also using two assault cannons. the other HQ will be an independant chaplain. Now, my thoughts on this is I can make an imaginary deathcompany of termis also. to this end I will make an assault termi squad using lightning claws.. now what to arm the chappy with, wasthinking about giving him a gun and keeping his Croz, this gives the squad at least 2 shots a turn (better than none). I'll paint this squad up black with red crosses etc like the DC Elites 2 Dreads, and a Ven dread... can ven dreads take dual CC weapons? if thet can (as FW makes both sides claws for them i asume so) I'll make my own Furioso ;) a techmarine in termi armour that i doubt id ever use, but i like the prospect of modeling him. Troops/Fast attack: This will be mainly standard Termi squads with different configurations, maybe another termi assault squad if possible.. Heavy support: Land raider cruisader for the 'DC' Land raider promethius Land raider all of these will get forgeworld doors etc. now that alone will make a fairly normal army, so my plan is to add as much greenstuff work like blood drops, tabards etc as I can, this adds a more ornate look to the entire army and should make it more unique. Along with this, poses are going to be important to me, for example I plan to make the assault termi squad with lightning claws (DC) all in runnin type poses, theres an example of the sort of thing i mean a bit later on ;) I want the majority of the army to be both dramatic and dynamic. Then finally there is the paintjobs, im not a novice at painting so I will be experimentin with new ways to paint red that look nice, the way i like the most takes far too long however requiring many many thin layers. so any pointers or ideas on this will be greatly appreciated. The other major thing i plan to do with the painjobs is alot of free hand, this will fit in well with the arty look and mindset blood angels are depicted as having. onto the pictures! (warning theres alot!) here you'll get to see my WIP termi kill team for the AOD, the will probably end up as the basis for my termi command squad in this army however. first is sergeant Crescenzo http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/PICT0027.jpg nothing major in conversion, just some small details, still needs some blood drop shaped gems and maybe an angel on the leg Brother Guerino http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/PICT0026.jpg I wanted him looking like hes seen something to his left and is firing before hes finished turning, the screaming head seemed appropiate. Brother Vincente http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/PICT0022.jpg a more plain looking termi, I added a GS chain with blood drop to one leg Brother Lazzaro http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/PICT0021.jpg hes firing to his right, I added a blood drop and hair to this model, also cutting the arm in half so its more exagurated that hes firing to his right. Brother Agapito http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/PICT0024.jpg hes running! ^_^ and still very WIP on details. a group shot: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/PICT0019.jpg the tank: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/PICT0034.jpg nothing interesting... but its my first EVER landraider (and ive been in the hoppy 9 years :P ) so needed to show it off :P then the finalie Epistolary Corvinus http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/PICT0028.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/PICT0031.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/PICT0032.jpg im waiting for Calgars legs to arrive so that he has a proud stance, I based the shape of the torso on the new red scorpion commander. then sculpted blood drop etc. I also wanted that hand pose that EVERY libby ive done has had, so he got a GK storm bolter arm. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway, comments and critisism and ideas are VERY VERY welcome p.s. more pictures in this gallery http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v235/bli...cal&media=image alrite heres a shiney new mini update ^_^ firstly heres a completed (still needs purity seals though) Agapito http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/PICT00g27.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/PICT00d28.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/PICT0029f.jpg then heres my current progress on the sergeant. ive done the wings... though i might start them over... but i need to model a body and head onto the area between the wings... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/PICT003f1.jpg as you can see.. the head is now repositioned ^_^ as for calgars legs... the 'U' symbols on chains will become flat circles each with a blood drop on it... and the large 'U' will get some sort of nice cover up too ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominar_Mortis Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 can ven dreads take dual CC weapons? if thet can (as FW makes both sides claws for them i asume so)unfortunatley, no. using the DW rules you can't have a furioso (dammit :P ), but, suppose you give it a missile launcher and furious charge and model it appropriatly (tau missile pod or other attached to torso, plus the FW DCCW) ^_^ i'm liking the idea of the "DC termies" all with LC, gonna give them Furious Charge as well? i am doing something very similar to this, so don't be supprised if i happen to steal a few ideas off you ;) can't wait to see more DM ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1011587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Q- Posted May 21, 2006 Share Posted May 21, 2006 Not going to discuss the rules view in PC&A, but I love the Terminators. Love 'em. Love 'em. BA Terminators are so rare it's great to see them being so well done. (as you know) you're doing a great job and the poses and sculpting are simple but sweet. I'll be following along. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1011608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhg033 Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 mate they are awesome! i collect deathwing as an army and you've given me some ideas on how to convert some of my termies - damn it that means buying more of them! ;) it may be against being a blood angel but you can get a mortis dreadnought for DA armies - these are armed with two ranged weapons, check out imperial armour 3. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1011823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted May 22, 2006 Author Share Posted May 22, 2006 UPDATE UPDATE ^_^ wooo on a bit of a role.. despite still only having sunglasses and it being gone midnight :P anyway, first heres a look at my still WIP red, based off of OMGs technique but slightly different (or will be when finished) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/a.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/b.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/c.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/d.jpg and then cuz i like to get oppinions on my WIPs heres the rest of the squad (not the assault cannon needs to be pin viced and theres some nasty mold lines visible too...) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/e.jpg sergeant, sporting a sanguinus on his leg, hard to see here but its based off of the chapter banner, this should be more evident when seen painted *fingers crossed* http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/f.jpg standard brother marine. GS chain with termi honours round neck, and chain with blood drop on his leg and honour on his fist. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/g.jpg assault cannon marine, chain with termi honours, and blood drop on fist, sculpted hair. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/h.jpg the most plain member.. the Heavy flamer dude, only added termi honours in medal form since last picture http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/i.jpg group shot Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1012366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt. V Posted May 22, 2006 Share Posted May 22, 2006 Nice, i like the red so far, and i also like the sergeant Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1012383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKTROOPER Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 awesome that Librarian will be damn sexy when he is finished Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1012487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Lord_Panthro-- Posted May 23, 2006 Share Posted May 23, 2006 Looking great, my friend. I really like the red! the squad is coming together well! Keep it up! Panthro Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1012628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 apologies for the poor quality pictures, just a minor update. Agapeto as he currently looks, sooo much still t be done on him, all the rivets, chains, icons, weapons, seals etc. face is pretty much done, just need to touch up the forehead. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/2.jpg another red, the photo makes it look FAR darker than it actually is. also it looks somewhat messy here but looks cleaner IRL. no details or colours other than red done here. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/3.jpg started puting down the red on the sergeant, also now you can see the sanguinus on his leg a little easier. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/4.jpg started work on the Libby as the legs arrived today :wub: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/5.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1013839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAChos Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Terminators must add coolness factor +2, but I'd say these ones are more like +5, although I'd like a second oppinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1013849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Nice work Blindhamster -_- looking good Are Marneus's legs in need of any major overhaul, ? as I have a chapter master in TDA planned and those legs would work nicely I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1013861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted May 24, 2006 Author Share Posted May 24, 2006 *thinks* well if its an UM chapter master, then no problem -_- otherwise, theres little U's at the end of each tassle thing on both front and back, theres a LARGE U on the belt that im unsure how to tackle, and theres U's on each of the hip guard things, however compared to normal terminators those are small so i just bulked them up to cover those, the ones on the tassles have been made into circles that will each recieve a blood drop. oh... and he has no 'arse guard' so one of those need to be modled, nice legs otherwise (one other minor complaint would be they appear to be slightly smaller than stander terminator legs.. though still larger than old school terminators.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1013866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 'arse guard' Is that a GW patent??? ;) Sadly not a UM chapter master, it'll be for my DIY's. From your description it's does sound achievable though, Thanks for the run down. Mind if I borrow the idea -_- Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1013877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAChos Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Hi, I'm Barry Scott, and I'm here to tell you about new "ARSE GUARD". i have no idea why I just typed that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1013894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moribund the Burgermeister Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Hi, I'm Barry Scott, and I'm here to tell you about new "ARSE GUARD". i have no idea why I just typed that. Still fun though. -_- Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1013936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronophague Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Heheheheeee... Someone wrote arse. How funny... -_- Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1013940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Looking pretty good so far hamster :) The sargeant looks like hes possessed, what with the white eyes and all :) Anyway, Im looking forward to progress! -Kaldoth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1013980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 alrite heres my Libby Corvinus as he looks right now... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/lib/PICT0026.jpg from the front, i changed the little Us into 'coins' with blood drops on them. also the hip guards have been heavily bulked up to be more like standard terminator ones. also the chest is completely sculpet along with a cute little psychic hood ;) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/lib/PICT0025.jpg from his left side, I used a GK arm and put the missile launcher hand on it, also seperating each finger. only other thing to note is the audition of the book wrapped in chains. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/lib/PICT0024.jpg the back, here you can see my signature 'arse guard' ^_^ along with another view of the book. hmm what else... oh yes you can tell hes walking up the steps here. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/lib/PICT0023.jpg the right side, mephistons sword, company champion sword hilt, GS cable from sword to hand, Forgeworld BA pad... and if you look closely you can see i sculpted a BA icon on the right hip guard. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/blindhamster/termis/lib/PICT0020.jpg another view from the front off to the right, you can see the idea hes stepping up the steps and blasting some nids. I'll be painting this guy along with the rest of the squad ASAP lol @marcus: good luck with the GM! @just about everyone else: lol enough with the jokes and comment the minis? ;) @Kaldoth: thanks man, by the way the possessed dude is just a standard terminator lol. cheers all updates again tonight after work i expect! Ali Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1014383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmato Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Looks nice so far ^_^ How did you go about seperating the Missile Launcher hand? t'is very cool ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1014394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazal Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 The libby is looking really good, the only nit-pick I have, and I know it's minor, is the left shoulder pad. The sword in the book just screams GKs to me. Any chance that the soulder will be repoaced or modified with GS? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1014404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 The Libby looks really good. I really like the way the legs have worked out, and the stepped base is a really good idea, looks great with the pose. Can't wait to see some paint ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1014412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 @Ahmato: the hand was seperated in the normal way, by cutting it from the arm, i then used a very sharp modeling knife to seperate the fingers and bent them slightly into a pose i liked. @Azazle: yup when Commander Culn arives i will be removing that should and adding his crux pad instead, also adding horns to the crux to make it more librarian like ;) @marcus: yea i went with the steps becuase the legs just didnt look right to me on a flat base. I think it worked well at least, also i didnt need to worry about the large U on the belt as its almost completely covered by the torso armour, so that was a great relief, if i had had to i was going to make a purity seal or three anyway ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1014417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moribund the Burgermeister Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Ok, I'll give you a real comment, as well, as I really feel inspired to do a few Blood Angel Termies when I've seen yours! What did you use for the undercoat? White spray with a dilute Black Ink on top? 'Cos I've got to try that! Cheers; Moribund! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1014425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkiraCho Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 i really love the work you did on that guys face, really well colored from what i can see, keep that up! i wish i could give a land raider furious charge.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1014566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmato Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 i wish i could give a land raider furious charge.. Why? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87574-blood-angels-first-company-some-thoughts/#findComment-1014576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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