Ranozthe Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Well i was thinking to make my DIY chapter The Tantris Guard in a communistic theme... So my chapters colours will be black with red accents for my troops and inversed for my sergeants and elites (test-sheme will be posted soon..but am rather busy the next days). Chapters symbol will be the Hammer and Sickle ofcourse.... Most of the conversions will be quite simple, just cut and pastes and a bit of gs...becuz im no conversion specialist ;) The conversions: Chaplain: replace the normal rosarius with a sickle conversion. I will add a second chaplain when i go over 2000pts, that one il give a hammer conversion. Both with jumpacks. Tacticals: Some will get a converted ak47 bolter, maybe all..if i have the time ^_^ Sergeants cc weapon will be hammer or sickle chaped. Then the lascannons(really NO idea) Scouts: all will get those funny hats...but where to get them???. scout with heavy bolter will get a degtarev conversion, snipers i dunno (need insipration) Assault: jumpack somn steampowered (need some help with that). cc weapon will be sickle conversion. Dreadnought: Hydraulics showing on the ccfist. and then i run out of ideas for the assault cannon... Pedator Destructor: i want to base it on the t-90 battle tank to turret is gonna be rounder and turret cannon is gonna be longer and im gonna have some blast-protecting armour. Like those squares here. Well thats it for my first 1000 pts, hope u can help me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnum_opera Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Seriously, if you're going to do this, why not just play IG with the new Vostroyan models? Much less of a hassel and much more accurate, me thinks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1014757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorin Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 wach the "enemy at the gates" movie there's a lot of russian army esppecially snipers there Lots of ideas for you:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1014767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranozthe Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 Seriously, if you're going to do this, why not just play IG with the new Vostroyan models? Much less of a hassel and much more accurate, me thinks. Well The Tantris guard is actually made out of space marine companies and IG companies...i was already thinking of beginning with IG after this space marine army... But if i wanted to start with IG...why would i post in a power-armor-only forum???? @Gorin: I'l get that movie tomorow right away! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1014787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakiq Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Give the chaplain a Thunder hammer and model his crozius to look like a sickle and make him hold them across his chest. Give your commander a bare head and give him a Stalin mustache and a Sovjet looking hat out of GS. Btw, to all Frater out there, don't let this topic degenerate to a political flame fest. Remember what happened to the nazi themed marine army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1014789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmato Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Give the chaplain a Thunder hammer and model his crozius to look like a sickle and make him hold them across his chest. Seconded ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1014794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranozthe Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 yes, sounds good! ive got a thunder hammer lying around somewhere....but chappie arrives in 1-2 weeks ;) Well the comander sounds great too, but im not inserting a commander in my army for now (got only 1000pts) But il definitly put it in my wishlist! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1014798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammekkos Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Search cmon for "soviet marine" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1014799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranozthe Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 Well the soviet marine isn't really what im looking for, though some cyrilic writing on my marines would look cool....gonna need to do some research on the writing:unsure: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1014813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicili Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Hmm i would change the color scheme, to red and yellow, black doesnt say russia to me. I would model your bases with snow, and use some russian sounding names for most things. Hmm i support the Imperial Guard use, The Red Army was very large, and a space marine chapter wouldnt do it justice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1014823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crushot Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Soviet Tesla Armor from C&C: Red Alert 2 ought to be nice inspiration for Power Armor no? Google should turn up pics with just "Tesla Trooper" and recall Red Alert 2 sites should have shots. Now...Libarian called Yuri coming along too? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1014824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demaroth Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 I was browsing CoolMiniOrNot the other day, and came across these three models, ironically. I tried to paint them, but it's the exact details that really sell these schemes - and I'm just not that good. :ph34r: But, I highly recommend everyone checking them out, they're seriously cool to look at. :) http://coolminiornot.com/120607 http://coolminiornot.com/106291 http://coolminiornot.com/111839 - John Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1014860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zgar Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 For scouts you should model them pioneer scarfs around their necks and paint them red. Plus some blue barrets on their heads, and light blue painted shirts and dark blue painted trousers. Google for some chineese pioneer photos if you don't know what I mean... ;) I do, was a pioneer myself back at first grade school :D LOL, this was already 17 years back and it still hurts... :D Try to model some bottles of vodka on the bases :D Looking forward to see some pics!!! Cheers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1014937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obliterator Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Seriously, if you're going to do this, why not just play IG with the new Vostroyan models? Much less of a hassel and much more accurate, me thinks. Or Valhallans, maybe? Way more accurate than the Vostroyans IMHO. You could chop off their heads to use for your scouts as they have those nifty ear-warmers you're looking for. That or greenstuff them. I second the extensive use of hammers and sickels as CC weapons, and bare headed baldie heads with large mustaches are also a must. Wasn't there some Russian-looking guy in the last chancers box? You could also use the White Scars heads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1014948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranozthe Posted May 26, 2006 Author Share Posted May 26, 2006 Wasn't there some Russian-looking guy in the last chancers box yep, the demo man, he would fit great in the army and give it some diversity. Well for those valhallans im gonna need to save up, cuz their all in metal. But does anyone know what i could do with the dread? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1015188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Death Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Astartes Trotsky! Dont you go forgetting that the peoples flag is deepest red and so should their armour be. Traits should be an intresting thing to conjure with. As for the dread- Lenin was embalmed.... Dr Death Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1015266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khrangar Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Give the dread a hammer hand instead of a regular dreadnought ccw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1015271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stripedog262 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Seriously, if you're going to do this, why not just play IG with the new Vostroyan models? Much less of a hassel and much more accurate, me thinks. Vostroyans are not communist-inspired at all- they are much closer to imperial russian troops. Valhallans, however, are a good resource to look at, and have those "funny hats" for your scouts... Terry Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1015275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOGGED Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Vostroyans don't look like russians. They look like elite infantry of the napoleonic wars, people. Give 'em a second look and you'll find. Just get normal marines, paint them brown with reddish details and put red stars and hammers all over the place. You can use hammers from dwarf minis if you have them or just model them, should be no difficult. Go for the poor looking, it will give a close soviet look. I'd say don't use red except for detailing and banners and the likes because using it all over the armor can look too colourful and you should get a more bland look. And put numbers on them, numbers, bars and stars, white or reddish, save gold for officers. And use large squads, low penetration antipersonnel heavy weapons or missile launchers for squads, tanks, transports, artillery, be it vindicators or devastators with long range guns and, if you can, cavalry in the form you deem good. Don't put termies, libbies, chaplains (soviet soldiers acted by fear or hate, not faith, use abilities to reflect it if you want) or techies. Put, at most, few land speeders with heavy ordnance, and few dreads, maybe just one (they maybe revered examples but were not inclined to other personalism than the leader's one). Scouts should look ragged to resemble partisans who act as advanced/behind enemy lines "irregular" forces. Just some quick thoughts. :angry: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1015294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grazer Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 A good word for text (especially on flamers or meltas) is "iskra" which when written in cyrillic is NCKPA but the N is backwards, and it means "spark". It was also the name of one of Lenin's publications and he lifted the word from a song that had a line like "from the smallest spark shall spring forth a giant flame" or something similar. Another idea is to rework the laurels from the smurfs as wheat since agriculture is a symbol of the working class. I agree w/ stripedog262 that the new Vostroyans are not modeled after communists. A possible idea for a dread, taking the Lenin's sarcophagus idea a bit farther, is to make the front of the sarcophagus clear so that you can see a comrade entombed in it, bald head and that cool moustache and goatee like Lenin had. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1015315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnum_opera Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Don't go flaming me now - the Valhallans are much more like the Communist Russian armies, but there are hardly any models and the ones that exist are expensive and dated. I'd imagine you'd rather have the nicer looking ones and just convert them - maybe into Valhallans, hell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1015455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinohai Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Seriously, if you're going to do this, why not just play IG with the new Vostroyan models? Much less of a hassel and much more accurate, me thinks. one, they are not based off of communist russia. two, the models are ugly as hell. three, this guy wants to do a marine army with this concept, if he wanted to do an IG army with this concept thats what he would have done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1015567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 As mentioned you should look up for pics and such from C&C Red Alert 2, especialy the Conscrips I would say, And on another note, I don't know if you really should use the SM codex for them, but instead perhaps an undivided Chaos List for the bigger squads? And as a last note, I would love to see a librarian/sorcerer Yuri convertion :D :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1015570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Wouldn't the close-combat weapon of choice be the sabre? A sickle - well, it just looks silly IMHO. You should look at the colour-scheme and the iconography - if you want Tzarist period Russia, it is very different to theSoviet era. For Soviet era, think Black Jacks, T-90s, BMP-2, Shilka, Spetznaz etc etc For Tzarist period, think Cossacks, Bear-skins, cavalry sabres, high collars, intricate designs, Orthodox church emblems etc etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1015581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Muppet Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 I agree w/ stripedog262 that the new Vostroyans are not modeled after communists. this is true. they are moddeled after russians, but they are cossack. the elite russian cavalry that harrassed napoleon when he ran away from russisa. the communist army was very small (the red army won the civil war with about 100,000 men), but that was till stalin took over. so I would model the army with trotsky incharge, and lenin as a chaplin. i would recommend a very dark green as the colour (ie very near black) the early red army was a very flexible elite force, so space marines are a good choice Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/87892-communismrussian-conversions/#findComment-1015585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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