Modelling: Doghouse pattern "Gothic Marines"

[LifeAfterDeath]

Thx to Doghouse... I will make some of these pattern for my PH SM squad... I will post some pic when I almost finished the conversion...

[the_unforgiven]

I will now proceed with stealing that and use it on my sons of malice hhehe same with the bare chested warrior

[thunderhawk]

Wow.

 

this turtorial is awesome.

i think i will mak a chappy like this :unsure:

[3vilX]

so, again, did doghouse ever get around to doing the promised plasticard version?

[Doghouse]

Cheers guys! :tu:

 

3vilX: Working on it right now mate! :tu: Might be a month or so untill I can knock up a proper guide as I'm a bit tight on freetime right now what with work and comissions, but fear not it's on it's way. :(

[Doghouse]

I'm still trying to get to grips with a way of doing this with plasticard but not gettting too far with the concept, however I have been working on the first DA tactical squad using this process and figured now would be a good time to update the tutorial a bit.

Once again, if anyone has any questions please fell free to shout them out.

 

Step one: The Boot

 

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/DSC01476_00.jpg

 

Wrap a sausage of GS around the base of the trimmed down CW boot.

 

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/DSC01477_00.jpg

 

Using your sculpting tool flatten the sides of the GS to form the sides of the shoe working the GS upwards.

 

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/DSC01478_00.jpg

 

Fold the GS over the top of the shoe and smooth out using the sculpting tool. You need to make sure that you have a film of water on the surface of the tool for the best results or alternatively use Vasalene. Make you that it's a thin film though so as not to swamp the areas you're working on.

 

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/DSC01479_00.jpg

 

Now we do the same to form the heel of the boot, blob of GS and smooth it out to form the heel.

[Doghouse]

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/DSC01480_00.jpg

 

Same as before, a thinner GS sausage is added to the base of the boot.

 

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/DSC01481_00.jpg

 

Now it's flattened out by pushing the GS against the boot and once you've done this all around the base of the boot you can flatten the top of the trim out.

For the best results it's best to leave it to dry for twenty minutes or so between finishing the shoe and adding the trim.

 

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/DSC01482_00.jpg

 

Now all is needed is to add the add the top of the shoe. For this we add another GS sausage to the top of the shoe (best to wait till the rest of the GS work you've already done to dry out for twenty minutes or so here before doing this stage).

 

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/DSC01483_00.jpg

 

Then flatten this out to form the top part of the shoe. flatten the front edge of the GS out first to create a vertical edge then smooth the top surface out pushing it back up towards the leg.

[Doghouse]

The Greaves

 

This is the bit I get PMed about the most so I've broken it down to make it nice and easy.

 

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/DSC01484_00.jpg

 

The GS sausage is added to roughly form the bottom edge of the greave all the way around the boot.

 

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/DSC01485_00.jpg

 

Flatten out the bottom edge of the GS greave pushing the GS towards the leg. Once you're happy that you have a flat edge then smooth the sides of the greave out.

Now you can wait till this is dry before moving on or just continue at this stage.

 

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/DSC01487_00.jpg

 

Finally add a blob of GS and flatten it out to fill the gap above the rim we just created create the bulk of the greave.

 

Next up (when I get time) the Torso.

[HellChyld]

excellent

[3vilX]

*eagerly awaits the rest of the tutorial*

[Sharp]

Doghouse, I thank you greatly. My first attempt a major sculpting went well.

 

My work.

 

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9846/dsc02602fu9.gif

 

 

The bent foot did cause some problems.... Maybe something you can comment on?

[Doghouse]

Excellent work!

It looks great to me mate, the rear foot is tough because of the angle but you've pulled it well especially for a first time sculpt. :(

[Incendium]

Here is my first attempt. I still need to straighten out some of the edges on the greaves, and the shoulderpads are still very much WIP.

 

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j168/Incendium89/Salamanders/IMG_6959.jpg

[Doghouse]

That's looking excellent so far mate, like you say a little cleaning up on the greaves and he'll be good to go. :)

What chapter are you making him for?

I like the inclusion of the top half of the CW as well, the GS trims work really well.

[Doghouse]

Thought some people might find this interesting (or maybe not... :wink: ).

 

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/Doghouse12/DSC01776_00.jpg

 

Whilst the Black Templars were the first pictures I posted of the Gothic marines, before moving onto Dark angels the design was in fact created for a LatD Iron Warriors army.

Above is a shot from my latest attempt at getting the LatD IW army together (after about three years or so...) showing the three steps that led me to the design.

The plan originally was to use regular marines as the half breeds that were created using Imperial Fists geneseed after the Heresy whilst the Gothic marines would be the original Legion members.

Now I'm using that design to create Aspiring Champions for the Traitor units, once that army is completed I'll look into adding Iron Warrior units that will eventually become an army in their own right.

[flintlocklaser]

Doghouse, just wanted to say keep posting the pictures! (And everyone else who is using this technique, keep posting yours too!)

 

My modeling skills aren't the hottest, and my GS skills are nonexistent, but based on the pics of your marines and the step-by-step stuff in your tutorial I think I might be able to pull this conversion off. I just ordered a few chaos warrior torso bits to try this out for a few special characters (LatD Fallen/Nurgle champ, Word Bearers Dark Apostle, etc). When I make some progress on them I'll post pics here - I'm particularly happy about the idea of modeling a Dark Apostle this way, as the one I made out of the normal CSM parts just doesn't cut it. He makes an OK squad leader, but the Gothic Doghouse pattern marine seems like it will have that little something extra that will make him seem like a fitting leader.

 

Thanks again for sharing this technique!

[Steel Company]

Doghouse, I've got to say, thank you, for opening my mind to useing things from WFB for 40k.

 

Also, has anyone noticed that the Chaos Warriors are actually taller, and bulkier then the 40k marines?

 

They make me think that the warriors are the 'right' size for 40k marines, that, and the look so much more bad arse.

[Marshal Rohr]

Dog House thank you for giving me inspiration to carry on in the building of a full Crusade. I hope its ok if I use many of your concepts.

[Doghouse]

You're more than welcome guys! :tu:

 

flintlocklaser: Great stuff, look forward to seeing the pictures. :wink:

 

Steel Company: Yeah, they're probably not true scale but scare the life out of your opponent when you plonk them on the table. :)

 

Marshal2Crusaders: Yeah go for it! :) That's the reason I'm such a huge fan of the B&C forums, great place to exchange ideas with other gamers.

 

Once I've got a model I'm sculpting for a friend out of the way I'll have a bash at putting up the torso part of the tutorial. :)

[esinhorn]

Heres my crack at it for a mk3 marine

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/wilis516/Picture372.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f295/wilis516/Picture371.jpg

[Doghouse]

Excellent job mate! :wink:

Nice work on the torso as well.

[TheDean]

wow am I glad I found this thread! I have been buying marines for my next army (thousand sons) and this would be perfect for not only larger marines but for that real ancient (rubric) look! I will post pics when I start work on them!

[remtard]

i wil need to go out and buy some greenstuff now and order the leg sprue (curse you dog house )

i needed this money for tale of the legions *goes of to sulk* my ph wolves will come first next to my bjorn the fell handed now !!!!!!! damn those lovely models *drools*

[Doghouse]

TheDean: Great stuff! You're right though they do work really well with the Thousand Sons, the pose makes them look like they are marching to war.

 

remtard: Sorry mate, maybe you could use this technique to make your Pre-Heresy Bjorn?

[The Silent]

Well, since I am now also a follower of the "Doghouse way", I'll show you mine as well:

 

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/WIP/HPIM1454.jpg

This Word Bearer in Mk III armour was my first testcase for the Doghouse method. I'm now in the process of adding the Chaos banding to his greaves.

 

And the rear, showing the lighter armour the Mk III has there:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h213/Modhail/WIP/HPIM1456.jpg

I still need to add those typical rivets of the mkIII armour, though...

 

Thank you, Doghouse, for sharing this great technique!

 

Bye, Erik