WingZ Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Im working on a lost & damned army lead by the Word Bearers.. this is my first Chaos Army thus my first Chaos modle.. I like the way he looks but feel like hes missing something... any ideas would be great thx Back http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Tru...ie/CIMG1870.jpg front http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Tru...ie/CIMG1867.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother 'Ussell Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 I'd give him a tattered banner with litanies of hate scrawled upon it... in blood perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellChyld Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 interesting model like the tail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starks333 Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Holy almost Nightcrawler! give him three fingers, and horns on his head, also some longer hair and voila! hahaha but other than that, the head position is a bit weird, maybe Greenstuff some chaos iconography on him if you are any good at that Starks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingZ Posted July 17, 2006 Author Share Posted July 17, 2006 the head is up like that because hes blind but leads his forces with his visions.. or thats the look i was going for anyways lol.. thanks for the ideas guys I like the banner idea.. I just need to get a backpack on him ...but i really dislike the chaos backpacks.. they look corny to me.. I may use a SM one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleHarold Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Oooh, I like that. Your right. He IS mising something. Not sure what. I like that some banners would do the trick, as long as you dont go overboard. I love the head and tail, and the blue look he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 The blind concept works for me, I like it! What he needs though is a backpack, not your standard issue CSM backpack but a converted one with braziers and the whole she-bang. My 2 kraks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obliterator Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Holy almost Nightcrawler! Just what I was thinking :blink: ! I would give this chap the Chaos Lord backpack, and paint up the banner like paper with dark prayers on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 Can't thee see it? He need rims on the armour! It looks to plain right now :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingZ Posted July 19, 2006 Author Share Posted July 19, 2006 I added a backpack & a little more paint.. Im thinking Im goingto hang something off the ends of the banner maybe heads on chains or something ..as always C&C is most welcomed http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Tru...ie/CIMG1895.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Tru...ie/CIMG1898.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingZ Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 nothing?.. come on ppl show a brother some love..or hate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlteriusMotive Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 conversion with the tail looks great, but the red paint is too thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Chaplain Astador Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 This isn't meant to sound harsh, just consturctive. I am a decent painter, or atleast I like to think I am, I haven't painted anything of Display quality in awhile, just TT. Anyway, C&C. Comments: I love the concept, it fits WB very well as they are probably the most religious in their practices out of the chaos legions. A Prophet fits the part of an AC. The pose is good, but as already said, the head needs some work. And you picked a good model to base it off of, and did a really good job removing the head and arm. Crit: The paint seems really thick. I don't know if it is because the pieces were already painted or if your painting it as you go. Some pieces seem like the basecoat was rubbed off and the metallics are sneaking through. I would suggest adding abit more water to your paints and apply the paint in thin layers, use more than one layer to cover the model instead of one thick layer. I know it takes practice and patience, one of which I do not have a very good grasp of(Patience if your wondering, hence why I speed paint to TT quality instead of going competition quality that I have done a few pieces in) Anyway, just keep practicing, I am in no way as good as many of the painters here, but I have seen so much improvement in my work since I joined in 03. This board is one of the best places to seek advice. I don't mean to be rude with my crit. I am only trying to help. Keep up the good work, your conversion is very good! Cheers, MCA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingZ Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 nah you dont seem rude at all.. I let any and all C&C.. but see my problem is that that is like 4 coats of scab red... can you use to many coats or am i not thining that paint down nuff?...I try to use 2-3 parts paint to 1part future floorwax & water.. as for the head I have it cocked at that odd angel because I want his to look like hes having a vission & is looking off into the warp anywas thanks for the c&c guys.. I plan on posting some more pics today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Chaplain Astador Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Hm, did what color did you use to basecoat the model? Usually for red I would do black basecoat, and apply scab red in a thin layer, then red gore, and finally add some blood red. That way the coats even out alot and you have a brighter red that just scab red, but it can also stay on the dark side depending on just how much Blood Red you add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingZ Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 i almost always use a white primer.. I just like it better then black... I was tryingot keep the red a darker color I wanted it to look almost like old blood.. do you think a red ink wash will help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Chaplain Astador Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Red ink should help. Over white use a thin basecoat of Scorched Brown, and then a thin layer of Terracotta. Then start applying thin layers of scab red. That should work. Use Red Ink at the end and then highlight with Blood Red and Red Gore and Scab Red are to close to highlight each other. Cheers, MCA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingZ Posted July 24, 2006 Author Share Posted July 24, 2006 i suck at highlights.. any pointers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Chaplain Astador Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 Get a really fine brush and just hit the edges. If your bad with hightlights, use a drybrush layer with lighter paint on the edges, that might be easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingZ Posted July 25, 2006 Author Share Posted July 25, 2006 one last pic befor he hits the dip.. Im just going to start over & see if i cant get his guy to look like i see him in my mind. I know the banner sucks but I cant free hand to save my life.. any ideas what i should do instead? http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Tru...ie/CIMG1960.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother 'Ussell Posted July 25, 2006 Share Posted July 25, 2006 With my Word Bearers, I've started using bestial brown between a white undercoat and the first coat of Red Gore, works wonders. Then I work up to blood red with a touch of red gore for the extreme highlights and then when it's all done a light wash of magenta ink to level out the layers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypher_zero Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 I love the head. Did you GS it or is it a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingZ Posted July 31, 2006 Author Share Posted July 31, 2006 its a mutie bit.. I got an extra if you need one oh just ot update.. ive laayed down some new paint & plan on putting pic up soon.. but i just got a high box of bitz this weekend & have been haveing loads of fun with them.. so look for 2 more ASP camps in the next few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingZ Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 Well Ive started the repaint.. its not done yet but its getting there.. Im having major problems highlighting.. anyone care to tell me how & where to put them?.. I started with a white primer the added a thim layer of vomit then tercota then scab red the blood red then red ink & tryed to high light with ruby red.. the silver i wanted to look tarnished so I did boltgun over black & drybrushed silver.. the banner turnd out alot better then I could of hoped for.. my freehand sucks so I like what i got there as always any C&C is welcomed http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/TruBlackie/1-2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Q- Posted August 2, 2006 Share Posted August 2, 2006 At this point I'd suggest quantity over quality. Let your practice come from getting more Marines done rather than obsessing over repainting on one. You'll start to learn how much of each color you need for each stage of highlighting. You'll get a standard rank and file Marine that makes you think "hey this guy is pretty good" and you can then copy what you did with him ;) You will also likely find that the general gaming public thinks your painting is better than you do. The BnC can be a harsh comparison for the work of a beginner and leave them with unrealistic goals. (though the BnC and GW's GD and Tournament pages are good for copying 'how & where to put highlights') Your work is looking good so get a lot of it done :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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