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some great ideas in here , ,

didnt see this one tho , its a simple design made from a standard bolter , flamer and scope ,and some cutting....

its not quite done yet , i still have to add an ejection port

 

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk108/barry_hhh/shadowguard012.jpg

I will be attempting to build at least one of the following bolters when i get the time.

gallery_30537_1653_20168.jpg

PS. Can we get an Apothecary on the scene to revive this thread?

Of this picture, I have already made the M36 Plas, The Mentor Bullpup, Mentor Bullpup G, and I'm working on the Mentor SAW.

I'll post pictures when I get on my other computer.

How does one hold the bullpup?

I once made a bolt pistol/rifle. I took the bolt pistol, cut off the barrel, replaced it with the main part of the scout shotgun, cut off that barrel, and put on the end of a plasma pistol.

to hold a bull pup, the magazine goes inside your right arm. This allows for a shorter barrel, better shoulder rest and faster reloading.

 

Aye, accuracy in a compact, deadly package.

 

I'm still not sure about the images of those bull pup designs though, the mag seems to close to the grip in my opinion, slotting the mag would be interesting.

 

If you could give me any advice on whether I'm on the right lines or whether it does indeed work I'd be much obliged.

 

As seen here the magazine is well clear of the grip:

http://www.misklin.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/misklin/sa80.h2.jpg

 

Cheers.

I'm still not sure about the images of those bull pup designs though, the mag seems to close to the grip in my opinion, slotting the mag would be interesting.

I did a lot of research on bullpup weapons (not just British SA80) for the very purpose of making a bullpup bolter. And yes, the Mentor bullpup has the magazine a lot closer the grip than normal. I figure you would have to add a bit of length to the bolter body. The combi-bolter carried by Azrael has about the right distance as far as I can tell.

I'm still not sure about the images of those bull pup designs though, the mag seems to close to the grip in my opinion, slotting the mag would be interesting.

I did a lot of research on bullpup weapons (not just British SA80) for the very purpose of making a bullpup bolter. And yes, the Mentor bullpup has the magazine a lot closer the grip than normal. I figure you would have to add a bit of length to the bolter body. The combi-bolter carried by Azrael has about the right distance as far as I can tell.

 

Fair enough buddy, thanks for the opinion. Was merely curious, good work for the depth of research.

I'm not denying that, especially since every Brit squaddie gets a bullpup design to use and IIRC the FAMAS is also similar configuration, that one just looks like the mag is ever so slightly too close to the trigger, that is one tight fit.

FAMAS & Steyrs both are bullpups. IIRC, the P90 & F2000 are semi-classed as bullpups

 

I attempted to make a 'B85'-pattern bolter a while ago.

It didn't go too well, for the reason that with the mag placed there, its very difficult to get a marine to hold it without:

extending the bolter to make it longer

making the bolter wider so that the trigger will fit

re-sculpting the marine's arm/wrist

making the marine hold the bolter at such as strange angle, he might as well have been using it as a pistol.

Heres something to consider. Which types of bolters would be useful for cityfighting/siege/firefights?

The standard bolter a Marine carries is already pretty cut down, and looks to be fairly maneuverable in the close in environment you'll find in MOUT. There is no really issue with it lacking stopping power either. And it more then likely tough enough to be used as a bludgeoning instrument.

I attempted to make a 'B85'-pattern bolter a while ago.

It didn't go too well, for the reason that with the mag placed there, its very difficult to get a marine to hold it without:

extending the bolter to make it longer

making the bolter wider so that the trigger will fit

re-sculpting the marine's arm/wrist

making the marine hold the bolter at such as strange angle, he might as well have been using it as a pistol.

 

just rotate the left hand a bit and have him holding it by the barrel while doing something else with the other hand

The ones that shoot bullets? Bolters are pretty stocky as it is compared to the marines so I can't see how they would make it more compact :P

 

 

i dont think there is an issue with the size of a bolter in CC. i thinks its more the size of a marine, i doubt they could fit in compact places....

Threads merged.

 

Even though the pics in flyinghippos posts no longer work, they do have the name of the Frater who made the bolter. Searching for their posts should get you to images of their bolters.

 

For those hosting their pictures on photobucket (and similar sites) I would recommend making use of your B&C gallery space to host your pictures. That if your photobucket account gets scrubbed or goes inactive, people can still see your images.

I will be attempting to build at least one of the following bolters when i get the time.

gallery_30537_1653_20168.jpg

PS. Can we get an Apothecary on the scene to revive this thread?

Of this picture, I have already made the M36 Plas, The Mentor Bullpup, Mentor Bullpup G, and I'm working on the Mentor SAW.

I'll post pictures when I get on my other computer.

How does one hold the bullpup?

Oops, forgot to come back =-D I never finished the Mentor SAW.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/IMG_2820.jpg

This is how I got my marine to hold his bullpup

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/IMG_2821.jpg

And the rest...we have a gun with a flashlight...I don't know what I was thinking, a Deathwatch bolter, a bolter with an extended barrel (NOT silenced!!), a 3rd (maybe 2nd?) edition bolter with shoulder brace cut off, and a 3rd (again, maybe 2nd) edition bike bolter altered with current edition magazine and hand grip.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/Shortsonfire82/IMG_2822.jpg

Did a few, 2nd of which is based on the pics on pg 2, just cut shorter. I like the smg look

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Mr.Wolf/Figs/PICT0010.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Mr.Wolf/Figs/PICT0008.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Mr.Wolf/Figs/PICT0006.jpg

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